Yea. I thought there would be some kind of old CP conversion, too.

WhereArtThouVampires wrote: »

Kurat wrote: »

Be happy that you were allowed to even gain cp past 810 for all these years.

What does this even mean? You literally gain nothing from getting cp past 810. Except the fact that if they ever increased or did something with the CP system then your cp would transfer over.

OP is clearly referring to the fact that all of his hard earned XP is now essentially wasted. I don't see how that's a "lol be happy you could level anyways" situation in the slightest.

@WhereArtThouVampires That makes no sense at all. Everyone knew that getting CP past 810 is happening at a decelerated pace and it's been like that ever since a cap existed. Decelerated being the keyword here. The curve has been adjusted every single time the cap was raised as a catch-up mechanic for newer players, so why complain now when the same thing has been happening for years?
"You literally gain nothing from getting CP past 810", except having a headstart now, which is exactly the thing we were promised and we knew that it was happening at a decelerated pace, so what's the news here?

Ratzkifal wrote: »

Were you upset whenever the cap was raised by 30 too? Because the same thing was happening back then. The curve would always get adjusted to allow people to gain what you had faster than you did. You've been gaining CP at a decelerated pace for years and you knew that too.
The only thing that has changed now is that the new halfway point is ahead of the old cap. Nothing else. You have a massive headstart over anyone at still at 810 or just starting out. If you don't, then what are you complaining about?

How dare you say logical things on these forums?! lol

Most of you saying "be grateful" are ignoring that ZOS could have easily chosen to do this differently. They did do it differently for Vet Ranks - the players who ground out their CP to max stayed at the max of the new system, while players with less gained extra CP in compensation for their effort towards Vet ranks.

Beyond that, it's simply a fundamental difference in how to view the CP 2.0.

"You should feel grateful that you aren't at 810 of 3600!"

"Well, no I don't feel particularly grateful to the Devs who decided that I should go from 810/810, maxed and with everything we had available to me to 810/3600 or 1000ish/3600, where I don't even have the same power level as before. It didn't have to be designed that way and you know it."

"Well, be glad you aren't a newer player at 300/3600!"

"You do see how that's not helpful, right? Unlike a CP 300 account who's got content still ahead of them, I can't exactly redo the quests I've already done without making a whole new character to grind with. Some of those exp sources are gone- namely the sort of ones that involve "just playing the game for fun" as opposed to grinding out Skyreach or Alikr dolmens. Plus, uh, the exp curve would've benefited that CP 300 too, giving them more CP too."

"Well, a brand new player shouldn't have to play catch up to you way up there in the stratosphere!"

"Uh, have you considered that there will be new players next year and the years after that who DO have to catch up? Oh, wait, that's why ZOS adjusted the exp curve. Are you suggesting that the accelerated exp curve really isn't super helpful to reaching a high power level even though you're telling me I should be, hmm, grateful that ZOS deigned to give me the opportunity to grind back to the power and QOL level I used to have?"


Let's face it. This isn't a matter of feeling grateful. This was the Devs decision to design the CP 2.0 system so that nearly everyone started at 1/3 to 1/9th of the CP cap (average player at CP 410, according to ZOS) and then has to spend time grinding to reach the new level they want. ZOS says 1100 CP for combat effectiveness, with QOL passives still left to unlock at 1800.

It's about the grind, people. That's all there is to it. No, after so long at the max CP, I don't feel grateful to be told to get back on the hamster wheel.

"Well, you should feel grateful that ZOS didn't make you run on the hamster wheel longer!"

"Uh huh. Sure. If that's your thing, well, you can go right on with feeling grateful."

VaranisArano wrote: »

Most of you saying "be grateful" are ignoring that ZOS could have easily chosen to do this differently. They did do it differently for Vet Ranks - the players who ground out their CP to max stayed at the max of the new system, while players with less gained extra CP in compensation for their effort towards Vet ranks.

don't recall the swap to champion system 100% but didn't Veteran Ranks let us start at 160 (the new gear cap) out of 300 or something (as the new level cap)?
Seem to recall having to grind a new level cap right after the swap, but maybe that was just me not having earned as many champion points; honestly do not recall if we may have had Champion and Vet in tandem at one point...

You have not been robbed.

You actually got a nice buff, your several next levels are going to come faster.
Everyone have been buffed.

I mean, yesterday, I gained 5cp without even trying. I'll be 1200 in no time, and so will you, thanks to that nice buff to the xp curve.

preevious wrote: »

You have not been robbed.

You actually got a nice buff, your several next levels are going to come faster.
Everyone have been buffed.

I mean, yesterday, I gained 5cp without even trying. I'll be 1200 in no time, and so will you, thanks to that nice buff to the xp curve.

you wouldn't have had to lvl those 5 plus dozens to hundreds more depending on your current cp in the first place. plus the ones after would have still gone much faster..

with old cp I was able to spec my chars a bit dual purpose. tank or heal. plus solo and pvp. now I cant.

so I have most certainly been nerfed.

Well, if it is true, that game does not track all earned XP and your XP disappear when you get a CP, then you are not robbed and my statements about losing a difference are also utter bulls*it.

And I kinda feel that game really does not track all your XP.

Crazyprophet wrote: »

Listen at some point you've gotta let new players catch up. Otherwise the game becomes unapproachable the older it gets. I think it'd suck to have the most OP players determined by those who've played the longest, rather than necessarily their ability.

flat curve with vertical progression cap already takes care of that. Without screwing vet players out of Xp earned.

Plus there would be other ways to help lowbies. Like double enlightenment below level x. Or %Xp gain buff where % depends on level and is higher the lower the level.

Many ways of doing it without alienating a chunk of the vet players.

Scardan wrote: »

Well, if it is true, that game does not track all earned XP and your XP disappear when you get a CP, then you are not robbed and my statements about losing a difference are also utter bulls*it.

And I kinda feel that game really does not track all your XP.

Um, ZOS is the ones who make the EXP curve. They know exactly how much exp it took to gain each progressive CP under the old curve. It doesn't particularly matter if the game retains the total amount of exp that my account has earned over its lifetime. Its really as simply as comparing the number of CP a player has against the old exp curve to come up with their total amount.

If ZOS wanted to figure out the total amount of exp I've earned, they could have given me that amount according to the new exp curve. They did not want to, by design.