think of it as level 60 is the cap and it will be fine

Personally I don't like leveling quickly....and I have been popping through levels far to rapidly for my taste. I look forward to the VR levels, and being able to tour the other factions areas. The slowness of it will give me the sense of accomplishment that I desire in a game. But, to each their own.

Best Wishes!

If you aren't already a VR, you shouldn't comment.

Reason : it takes ungodly amounts of exp to level as a VR. VR1 to VR2 is around 400,000 experience, VR2 to VR3 is 900,000, and VR3 (where I'm at) to VR4 is 1,368,000 experience... which you have 1 zone to do that in.

I was short 200,000 experience to VR3, and did every quest I could in the VR2 zone (minus invisible NPC/quest bugs). I had to get that last 200k from the VR3 zone. Now I need about 600,000 more exp to hit VR4, and I'm 80-90% done with the VR3 zone.

If there were two VR3 zones, this wouldn't be an issue, except having to do quest after quest after quest, but there is only one zone, and quests/bosses/dolmens are your only real option. Monsters give 50 exp or less each.

Oh, and OP... it appears you have to do it three times. 1-50 reg, 1-5 second faction, and 5-10 third faction.

@sykotik_ESO I don't give a crap about how "hard" it is and this is not hard. Grinding ungodly amount of hrs/quests to just reach bs levels is not hard nor fun in my book. Hard is the days of BC in WoW when dungeons required you to have your crap in check. That's what I was expecting from this game, HARD dungeons not korean mmo no life *** grindfest. It really upsets me, this game is amazing in every aspect except the garbage veteran lvl's. Until this is removed or reduced I don't see many people sticking around. Also gtfo with your "casual" crap has nothing to do with that. I work 40-50 hrs a week I'm not going to spend my nights doing quest after quest after quest or grinding mobs. I want to work on gear not how many quests I can do. I'm all for busting your ass to complete a boss/dungeon that's FINE. Just don't force me to go see other faction zones and mask it with OH YEA MORE LEVELS LOL. I'll just roll that faction if I want to see it or simply make them optional to go see at 50 for achievements or gold.

supernickx wrote: »

Veteran 7 now - I must say, it's quite a slog. I think they went a bit TOO far with the XP curve.

As someone who is leveling at a decent pace, I expect to hit VR10 at around 11-12 days /played. That means I'm focusing on my 3 crafts and not cheesing my way to max with some mindless boring grind tactic.

Now on the surface that sounds great, almost 300 hours of playtime to reach max level. The reality is though I'm just slogging quest after quest with nothing really to break it up. You can't level in PvP and dungeons are limited.

I guess they just need to introduce alternate ways to level instead of forcing people down a "you will do our content!" route.

I have a job I have to work and a life.

I don't have Monster energy drinks brought down into the basement by my Mom all day bro.

VR levels are pretty boring. I enjoyed 1-50, doing all the quests and points of interest. But the stories in EP are dull in comparison and it is just making it feel like a chore.

At this point, I'd welcome a way to grind mobs or PvP as an alternative, because the quest content is simply put, rubbish, compared to the AD quests.

I chose AD for a reason, that I am now having to spend twice as long doing content that has never interested me, is imo, a failing on ZOS' part. My estimate is 12-15 days played time to get VR10.

Just hit Veteran Level and I can't wait to hit the other areas. I'm not looking forward to the steep XP curve though. This is an MMORPG and it's not supposed to be easy.

#1 - Not being VR-1 doesn't bar me from having nor voicing an opinion. Don't try to be an elitist. It's unbecoming.


#2 - The people complaining about the level curve are the same people who, upon reaching VR10 within three days would be screaming "We need something more to do! There's no Progress!"

VR levels are killing this game for me, I dont mind leveling, but theres almost zero progression with them, the gear doesnt really improve, the questing is slow and boring solo, I would group up if i had guildies to do it with.

I am currently about to hit VR5, but I doubt ill get to VR10, I leveled for months and months in games like EQ, but this is just mind numbing.

@viverim Well don't give input into something you haven't even achieved yet it wasn't meant to be elitist at all. Also I wouldn't be bitching if I was capped I'd work on my gear and pvp for fun waiting for the adventure zone. Also I agree with martinfriskb16_ESO it's pure torture. I've stopped playing just isn't even fun anymore. For those fanboys "ERRR GTFO IF YOU NOT PLAY SCRUB CASUAL" I care about this game deeply that is why I'm wasting my time bitching.

I been playing this game a couple hours a night since 5 day early access-I'm level 24, folks who are into the VR levels....I don't know...I think you may need to get a life or something.Yes, I get the whole play how you want.... blah blah, but having played tons of past mmos this one is not really a "power gamer " mmo,its more an exploration type game, heavy story, more a "slow cooker". Most people pushing max VR,yeah you missed the point of this awesome game(also have entirely too much free time on your hands....).Most will be bailing to the "next mmo" so they can make the same style of complaints there......enjoy that though.

I have to say I agree to an extent about what has been said in here. I was having the time of my life leveling from 1-50 in the Dominion side, the places looked nice and everything was just peachy. Plus on top of that the joy of hitting 50 for the first time was nice :P
Before I hit 50 I didn't even know what happens after Coldharbor but I soon found out when I was ported to Stonefalls. The Ebonheart area is dull looking and in most ways not clearly as nice as AD as a whole, so like it has been said, having to spend double the time in the area you were not really pining for in the first place is definitely not making it more fun at least.

Also I do like things to be a challenge in many ways but seems like you don't really have any place in the master dungeons before you're VR3 at least, otherwise you probly don't get passed first sets of mobs. Those instanced dungeons for me would be a great way to break the tedious questing.

The most fun I've had so far at VR levels has been, hands down, when I was running all of Stonefalls to Riften public dungeons, all of Skull & Sword areas etc with guildies for a few nights. Got about 2,5 VR levels from that. But also that kinda screwed up the whole thing for the rest of questing cos now there is only the normal quests to be done in all of the zones, meh :P

Viverim wrote: »

#1 - Not being VR-1 doesn't bar me from having nor voicing an opinion. Don't try to be an elitist. It's unbecoming.


#2 - The people complaining about the level curve are the same people who, upon reaching VR10 within three days would be screaming "We need something more to do! There's no Progress!"

You'll excuse me if I don't put much value on some lvl 30-49 scrub telling me how much he enjoys the veteran level content he hasn't even played. Until you've actually done veteran level content you should probably keep your garbage tier opinions to yourself.

You don't know a damn thing what VR 10s would be saying. Most of the VR10s I know are dreading the prospect of having to level even more after the Craglorn videos show even more ranks.

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Im not sure what was in developers' mind when they created this veteran ranks. If the end game is cyrodiil and a VR10 can trainwreck groups of low lvl veterans then probably they make the power gap too big, meaning that players FEEL that they MUST get to VR10 to be competitive, which is where the problem starts.

If the PvE side is heavily reliant on storytelling, the competitive people would rather have grindy quests in order to achieve what they want : top level, hence some has asked to bring back the repeatable player kills quest because that was the best way to level.

From the casuals/RPers/non-PvPers point of view, this is not a problem and never will be one. They just stride along the PvE content at their own leisurely pace, some probably will complain that levelling is too fast.

For the devs, having invested so much time and money into this game, would want as many players as possible to enjoy ALL the content in the game, i suspect trying to avoid the 'I played Alliance so I never knew what Horde lore was all about' problem. Besides, it gives them more breathing space before people demand more content.

There is no elegant solution to this I'm afraid. Cant really be on both sides at the same time