Nerien'eth Rework?!
GreenHere
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Would you be in favor of reworking the Nerien'eth monster set?
Or do you like it just the way it is?
Personally, I've always found this set pretty underwhelming. I want to like it, but I just... don't.
If it were up to me, it'd essentially be turned into a Magicka damage version of Sellistrix. So basically, it'd briefly stun enemies in its area & deal medium damage every ~8 seconds.
But I'd love to hear others' ideas in the comments!
Or do you like it just the way it is?
Personally, I've always found this set pretty underwhelming. I want to like it, but I just... don't.
If it were up to me, it'd essentially be turned into a Magicka damage version of Sellistrix. So basically, it'd briefly stun enemies in its area & deal medium damage every ~8 seconds.
But I'd love to hear others' ideas in the comments!
Nerien'eth Rework?! 52 votes
Yes - Let's change it
78%
41 votes
No - Leave it be
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amm7sb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭I think it was slightly re-worked once already. I remember that the 1 piece used to give health, and now it doesn't anymore
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NordSwordnBoard✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes - Let's change itI think about this set when I kill the faceless in vatacen delve behind harluns. Liches have some cool looking skill effects, but they picked an easily avoidable one that is also weak on damage.
It's less useful in practice compared to grothdarr or skoria in pvp imo. Idk what it's like vs. a target dummy but I never see it in dungeons.Fear is the Mindkiller0 -
PaddyVu✭✭✭✭Yes - Let's change itThis set doesnt work with plague slinger, it cannot proc even plague slinger consider direct damage. Tested over 20 times, doesnt proc at all0
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El_Borracho✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes - Let's change itEither buff the damage substantially or lose the delay. Ilambris is same radius, higher damage, and no delay. I don't know why you would use Nerein'eth over Ilambris, let alone a set like Maw or Zaan2 -
Runefang✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes - Let's change itThe AoE is too small. The delay is a problem. The damage is low.
Kjalnar's, Zaan, Maw are all better single target.
Grothdarr, Domihaus and Ilambris are all better AoE (and generally single target too)2 -
the1andonlyskwex✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭It would be great for PvE if they just increased the proc chance (or decreased the proc chance and made it proc on any damage, instead of just direct damage).0 -
Casul✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes - Let's change itMake it a defensive proc set that spawns 3 bombs like the mobs do.PvP needs more love.2 -
GreenHere✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes - Let's change itMake it a defensive proc set that spawns 3 bombs like the mobs do.
I kinda like this idea, but I'm afraid it would contribute to the "OMGLOLWTFISGOINGON" effect when there's just way too much happening on-screen at once.
Imagine seeing those crystal shards popping out of the ground constantly around your tank in a dungeon; you'd be rolling all over the place trying to dodge them like a fool! haha
Actually, that kind of makes me like the idea even more!
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GreenHere✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes - Let's change itEl_Borracho wrote: »Either buff the damage substantially or lose the delay. Ilambris is same radius, higher damage, and no delay. I don't know why you would use Nerein'eth over Ilambris, let alone a set like Maw or Zaan
Yeah, performance-wise it's just totally outclassed, which is a shame.
As for why anyone would want to use it; well, it's one of few sets that's not "Fire, in their face!" "Fire, from a pet!" "Fire, swirling around!" "Fire, in *** form!" "Lightning, I guess... but also FIRE!" and sometimes I think we all just want a little variety for its own sake. More sets need to be made "worth it" for that reason alone, imo.
...huh. Learned a new prohibited word on the forums today, I guess. The stars make it look worse than what I actually wrote, so I'll just leave it to your imaginations! Edited by GreenHere on March 3, 2021 10:30PM3 -
El_Borracho✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes - Let's change itEl_Borracho wrote: »Either buff the damage substantially or lose the delay. Ilambris is same radius, higher damage, and no delay. I don't know why you would use Nerein'eth over Ilambris, let alone a set like Maw or Zaan
Yeah, performance-wise it's just totally outclassed, which is a shame.
As for why anyone would want to use it; well, it's one of few sets that's not "Fire, in their face!" "Fire, from a pet!" "Fire, swirling around!" "Fire, in *** form!" "Lightning, I guess... but also FIRE!" and sometimes I think we all just want a little variety for its own sake. More sets need to be made "worth it" for that reason alone, imo.
...huh. Learned a new prohibited word on the forums today, I guess. The stars make it look worse than what I actually wrote, so I'll just leave it to your imaginations!
Oh totally, I was speaking purely from a numbers standpoint.0 -
the1andonlyskwex✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭As a point of comparison, if you could proc Nerien'eth on cooldown, it would deal twice as much damage as Ilambris. The problem is that the 15% proc chance on direct damage means it will actually proc way less than that (it should average just below Ilambris if you do nothing but spam single target direct damage and weave perfectly).1 -
regime211✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes - Let's change itWould you be in favor of reworking the Nerien'eth monster set?
Or do you like it just the way it is?
Personally, I've always found this set pretty underwhelming. I want to like it, but I just... don't.
If it were up to me, it'd essentially be turned into a Magicka damage version of Sellistrix. So basically, it'd briefly stun enemies in its area & deal medium damage every ~8 seconds.
But I'd love to hear others' ideas in the comments!
What makes 0 sense to me is they have a liche who summons like 6 liche crystals, and somehow some way who ever designed this monster set, just didn't care to make it right. Honestly it should summon 4-6 liche crystal's and snare the attacker or slow them down, and of course you can dodge roll out of it to make it fair and not OP. But they had a concept and I feel like they blew it. I really enjoy this monster set but it just isn't viable at all in pvp really.
Mazaluhad in imperial city is what they could have used as a reference for the nerienth set.Edited by regime211 on March 4, 2021 4:03AM0 -
Jusey1✭✭✭✭✭Yes - Let's change itI use it on my Necromancer for roleplay reasons only and yeah. It needs a rework but I do wish they keep the lich-crystal idea of it. I just not sure what would be best to give it an interesting use.0
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Olauron✭✭✭✭✭
✭No - Leave it beI am using it and the only thing I would like to change is to make it proc faster. Trash mobs are usually dead before it explodes.
I don't want it to be changed into stun set.The Three Storm Sharks, episode 8 released on january the 8th.
One mer to rule them all,
one mer to find them,
One mer to bring them all
and in the darkness bind them.0 -
WhereArtThouVampires✭✭✭✭No - Leave it beWould you be in favor of reworking the Nerien'eth monster set?
Or do you like it just the way it is?
Personally, I've always found this set pretty underwhelming. I want to like it, but I just... don't.
If it were up to me, it'd essentially be turned into a Magicka damage version of Sellistrix. So basically, it'd briefly stun enemies in its area & deal medium damage every ~8 seconds.
But I'd love to hear others' ideas in the comments!
Why not make it a set that summons some skeletal Warriors or various undead and does necromancer/lich stuff instead of tossing a re-skin of an existing set on it?
I'm all for changing this set. But please. Let's keep it thematic and give it the ability to like, idk, summon some skeletal or wraith guardians (similar to the ones from the actual boss fight)Edited by WhereArtThouVampires on March 4, 2021 9:17AM1 -
Icy_Waffles✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes - Let's change itIt has very limited use. I’d be down to make it more viable. Wish it was like a magic selenes.0 -
Mojmir✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes - Let's change itWould you be in favor of reworking the Nerien'eth monster set?
Or do you like it just the way it is?
Personally, I've always found this set pretty underwhelming. I want to like it, but I just... don't.
If it were up to me, it'd essentially be turned into a Magicka damage version of Sellistrix. So basically, it'd briefly stun enemies in its area & deal medium damage every ~8 seconds.
But I'd love to hear others' ideas in the comments!
What makes 0 sense to me is they have a liche who summons like 6 liche crystals, and somehow some way who ever designed this monster set, just didn't care to make it right. Honestly it should summon 4-6 liche crystal's and snare the attacker or slow them down, and of course you can dodge roll out of it to make it fair and not OP. But they had a concept and I feel like they blew it. I really enjoy this monster set but it just isn't viable at all in pvp really.
Mazaluhad in imperial city is what they could have used as a reference for the nerienth set.
At the time 6 would have been OP, i would have preferred they used the bosses thrown skull mechanic which provides a knockdown if not blocked0