I have 1065 cp at the moment. Does my cp change after update 29 or it will stay the same?
PaddyVu
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I cant find any information about cp gain with update 29. So i want to ask directly, thanks
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Luke_Flamesword✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭It will be stay same level, only XP needed for next levels will changePC | EU | DC |Stam Dk Breton6 -
ectoplasmicninja✭✭✭✭✭
✭My CP was the same on PTS. Nobody has said anything about CP levels being adjusted, which I think would have been mentioned if it was going to happen. ZOS also is known for not making retroactive changes (see perfected Maelstrom weapons). So almost certainly safe to say you will still be 1065 when the patch drops.PC NA, CP2500+. Character creation is the true endgame.2 -
Xuhora✭✭✭✭✭as it stands for now it will stay exactly the same.
there are a lot of threads and discussions about that topic n the PTS sections of the forums
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/categories/pts
feel free to contribute or just read through all the expressions and viewpoints, there are even some polls in there0 -
AyaDark✭✭✭✭✭Some one farm exp, some farm money.
Those who farm exp just lose profit.
Becouse other players who farm money and now have it can easely level up fast.
So any compensation than ? For our lost EXP points ?Edited by AyaDark on March 3, 2021 10:56AM0 -
AyaDark✭✭✭✭✭Hallothiel wrote: »
We farm expirience points, we did some work, spend our time.
If CP stay the same it will then say to us:
You get 6 millionof EXP point.
By 6 EXP points you get 1400 CP.
So now we take your 3 millions EXP that you farm.
So you are again 1400 CP.
What ???
May be take half of peoples money,DLC cwowns they have to then ?
It is just the same.
Just stealing our time and exp points.
And in reality 1400 CP and 3000 CP will have same DPS, but more comfroft.
Do we need to farm that 3 million EXP they steal again ?
We lose our time for that.
It is hard disrespect to OLD players !!!
Numbers are just as example, they are not real.
And each EXP point is real mob you kill and real time you spend.
Just as you do when you farm gold or resources, so why such changes ?Edited by AyaDark on March 3, 2021 11:35AM5 -
Luke_Flamesword✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Nope, you just had chance to gain levels above soft cap (810 CP) with higher cost per level. If soft cap was 810 and you didn't get any benefit from higher levels, so why even farmed next levels? Yoy should be gratefull that you even have opportunity raise your level above cap, so now you don't start from 810 level.PC | EU | DC |Stam Dk Breton3 -
AyaDark✭✭✭✭✭Luke_Flamesword wrote: »Nope, you just had chance to gain levels above soft cap (810 CP) with higher cost per level. If soft cap was 810 and you didn't get any benefit from higher levels, so why even farmed next levels? Yoy should be gratefull that you even have opportunity raise your level above cap, so now you don't start from 810 level.
Why other farm something is not some other people buisness.
Why people farm gold or resources ?
If they are not just use than they are the same cap.
May by I want to have a lot of EXP point i collect EXP point than.
And i spend real time for this.
And if it sounds silly, ok, but some people collect "achivments", for me it sounds just the same.Edited by AyaDark on March 3, 2021 11:50AM2 -
MaxWacksem✭✭✭AyaDark, you are confused nothing is being taken away, cp levels are being raised, you will be able to farm even more cp.1
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Mythreindeer✭✭✭✭✭AyaDark your expectations seem a bit unrealistic.
A game that doesn't change it's systems from time to time is a dead game. Into every player's game a little rain must fall. It spurs new growth.1 -
Brrrofski✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I think what he means, is that some players farmed xp.
Some players farmed gold.
So those with higher CP have lost out, because those that farmed gold instead, will catch up to those with higher CP. And they made gold rather than farming CP. So those that farmed CP "lost out".
But as others have said, once you got passed 810, there was no need to farm CP. Like, I have 1450 or so, but I didn't farm CP. I just got it playing the content I wanted to play.Edited by Brrrofski on March 3, 2021 12:08PM3 -
PaddyVu✭✭✭✭Does that mean newer player benefit much more than older player with this CP 2.0? How about lv1-50? Is it faster in CP 2.0?1
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AyaDark✭✭✭✭✭MaxWacksem wrote: »AyaDark, you are confused nothing is being taken away, cp levels are being raised, you will be able to farm even more cp.
I did not farm CP i farm EXP points.
It is logick like: you have 100$
Some other currency is now 2 times cheaper.
So we take your $ currency - convert it to that currency, you now have the same amount -> and convert it yo $ again.
Ooops you now have 50$.
But do not worry you can farm more now, becouse that currncy is cheaper.
Always double standarts and always you get the less value from both, that you can.
But in first place i have $ currency not that another.
I farm EXP points not CP.
So how my EXP points i get can be converted in first place ?Edited by AyaDark on March 3, 2021 12:14PM0 -
Xuhora✭✭✭✭✭paddyvu, its much more efficient to farm XP after the update 29! so if you have XP-Scrolls arround, hold on to them. if you are planing on doing some slayer achievements in the dungeons, hold on to them, since they give a massive ammount of XP.
as for the leveling from 1-50, i believe it will stay the same, but dont quote me on that please.
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✭✭✭✭✭MaxWacksem wrote: »AyaDark, you are confused nothing is being taken away, cp levels are being raised, you will be able to farm even more cp.
I did not farm CP i farm EXP points.
It is logick like: you have 100$
Some other currency is now 2 times cheaper.
So we take your $ currency - convert it to that currency, you now have the same amount -> and convert it yo $ again.
Ooops you now have 50$.
But do not worry you can farm more now, becouse that currncy is cheaper.
Always double standarts and always you get the less value from both, that you can.
But in first place i have $ currency not that another.
I farm EXP points not CP.
So how my EXP points i get can be converted in first place ?
Glad you brought up currency.
It's like you bought something for $100
6 months later it's on sale for $50
You're demanding the store return you the $50 difference.
That's not how it works
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ectoplasmicninja✭✭✭✭✭
✭They adjusted the XP curve (the amount of XP needed to achieve a CP) up to CP1800. So levelling up to 1800 will be much faster than it used to be. They didn't say anything about adjusting the XP gain below level 50, and I doubt that's been touched.PC NA, CP2500+. Character creation is the true endgame.1 -
AyaDark✭✭✭✭✭paddyvu, its much more efficient to farm XP after the update 29! so if you have XP-Scrolls arround, hold on to them. if you are planing on doing some slayer achievements in the dungeons, hold on to them, since they give a massive ammount of XP.
as for the leveling from 1-50, i believe it will stay the same, but dont quote me on that please.
It is just disrespect to players nothing more.
When they want they change sets.
But when they want , they do not and add new, that drop in some instances, like vMA.
So ... you need do just the same to get the same you already get before.
But when they change some sets, do not care that you farm it before or not.
Just disrespect to players with such actions each single update.
Race changes. All know that imperials was bad, now nords ? Then ? Redgards or ?
It is like to remove old player base to get new, that will donate more on start
Only such thingth i see.
No respect to players at all.
Just spend 100 hours more on the same arena to get some thing you get the same hell before.
Now , spend more hours for exping.
It is so coolto sell oldcontent twice, i know it.
We have a joke about 4 times sell the Skyrim.
But how is it fun or nor it is nothing more than disrespect to players. Nothing was done to make it better. It was not new content, new arena, new mobs that you will kill to get exp.
They do nothing, just remove thingth people already get, to get it again.
Some good projects will start soon, with suchpolitics, i do not thing that new people will come, and old players may be go to ne games too.
And i do not think that such players say anything good about TESo after that.Edited by AyaDark on March 3, 2021 12:27PM3 -
zaria✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭That changed is that CP soft cap is now 810, this result in that it now cost you 866752 xp to get to the next level.
After the update it will only cost you 279704 or 1/3 as much xp as soft cap is 1800.
In short we lots nothing.
Playing trough all the quests + dungeons + pvp took me to vet 14 who became CP 140.
How high CP do you think you would be doing this today
Edited by zaria on March 3, 2021 12:27PMGrinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
tmbrinks✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭paddyvu, its much more efficient to farm XP after the update 29! so if you have XP-Scrolls arround, hold on to them. if you are planing on doing some slayer achievements in the dungeons, hold on to them, since they give a massive ammount of XP.
as for the leveling from 1-50, i believe it will stay the same, but dont quote me on that please.
It is just disrespect to players nothing more.
When they want they change sets.
But when they want , they do not and add new, that drop in some instances, like vMA.
So ... you need do just the same to get the same you already get before.
But when they change some sets, do not care that you farm it before or not.
Just disrespect to players with such actions each single update.
Race changes. All know that imperials was bad, now nords ? Then ? Redgards or ?
It is like to remove old player base to get new, that will donate more on start
Only such thingth i see.
No respect to players at all.
Just spend 100 hours more on the same arena to get some thing you get the same hell before.
Now , spend more hours for exping.
It is so coolto sell oldcontent twice, i know it.
We have a joke about 4 times sell the Skyrim.
But how is it fun or nor it is nothing more than disrespect to players. Nothing was done to make it better. It was not new content, new arena, new mobs that you will kill to get exp.
They do nothing, just remove thingth people already get, to get it again.
Some good projects will start soon, with suchpolitics, i do not thing that new people will come, and old players may be go to ne games too.
And i do not think that such players say anything good about TESo after that.
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AyaDark✭✭✭✭✭paddyvu, its much more efficient to farm XP after the update 29! so if you have XP-Scrolls arround, hold on to them. if you are planing on doing some slayer achievements in the dungeons, hold on to them, since they give a massive ammount of XP.
as for the leveling from 1-50, i believe it will stay the same, but dont quote me on that please.
It is just disrespect to players nothing more.
When they want they change sets.
But when they want , they do not and add new, that drop in some instances, like vMA.
So ... you need do just the same to get the same you already get before.
But when they change some sets, do not care that you farm it before or not.
Just disrespect to players with such actions each single update.
Race changes. All know that imperials was bad, now nords ? Then ? Redgards or ?
It is like to remove old player base to get new, that will donate more on start
Only such thingth i see.
No respect to players at all.
Just spend 100 hours more on the same arena to get some thing you get the same hell before.
Now , spend more hours for exping.
It is so coolto sell oldcontent twice, i know it.
We have a joke about 4 times sell the Skyrim.
But how is it fun or nor it is nothing more than disrespect to players. Nothing was done to make it better. It was not new content, new arena, new mobs that you will kill to get exp.
They do nothing, just remove thingth people already get, to get it again.
Some good projects will start soon, with suchpolitics, i do not thing that new people will come, and old players may be go to ne games too.
And i do not think that such players say anything good about TESo after that.
If you feel so disrespected, why are you still here? honest question.
I really do not know.
I hope may be they do something good one day, but really not sure.
And i have good example of the same:
One of my comrades get bug and he can not use DLC he owns. Justdo not work and he can not buy new.
He wright for help to ZOS in support, but - nothing changed.
He wait for free ESO + just may be bug go away - NOPE.
May be letter with - we fix - NOPE.
A year already ! But we all hoped may be some day ... .
So i think it is just the same.
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AyaDark✭✭✭✭✭MaxWacksem wrote: »AyaDark, you are confused nothing is being taken away, cp levels are being raised, you will be able to farm even more cp.
I did not farm CP i farm EXP points.
It is logick like: you have 100$
Some other currency is now 2 times cheaper.
So we take your $ currency - convert it to that currency, you now have the same amount -> and convert it yo $ again.
Ooops you now have 50$.
But do not worry you can farm more now, becouse that currncy is cheaper.
Always double standarts and always you get the less value from both, that you can.
But in first place i have $ currency not that another.
I farm EXP points not CP.
So how my EXP points i get can be converted in first place ?
Glad you brought up currency.
It's like you bought something for $100
6 months later it's on sale for $50
You're demanding the store return you the $50 difference.
That's not how it works
I do not think logick like this work hear becouse i did not buy CP.
But such changes are always bad.
But lose a lot of player base each update may be is new trend.
I know a lot of games, that do the same.
Some of them are already close a lot of servers.
But if no people - no lugs at all.
So may be it is good for the game ... .Edited by AyaDark on March 3, 2021 12:49PM0 -
Xuhora✭✭✭✭✭MaxWacksem wrote: »AyaDark, you are confused nothing is being taken away, cp levels are being raised, you will be able to farm even more cp.
I did not farm CP i farm EXP points.
It is logick like: you have 100$
Some other currency is now 2 times cheaper.
So we take your $ currency - convert it to that currency, you now have the same amount -> and convert it yo $ again.
Ooops you now have 50$.
But do not worry you can farm more now, becouse that currncy is cheaper.
Always double standarts and always you get the less value from both, that you can.
But in first place i have $ currency not that another.
I farm EXP points not CP.
So how my EXP points i get can be converted in first place ?
Glad you brought up currency.
It's like you bought something for $100
6 months later it's on sale for $50
You're demanding the store return you the $50 difference.
That's not how it works
I do not think logick like this work hear becouse i did not buy CP.
But such changes are always bad.
But lose a lot of player base each update may be is new trend.
I know a lot of games, that do the same.
Some of them are already close a lot of servers.
But if no people - no lugs at all.
So may be it is good for the game ... .
fortunatly it is exactly the logic that works here. XP is the Currency, CP is the item.
you get 2 bananas for 2 dollars
you get 2 CPs for 200k XP
if the currency changes, you dont get compensated retroactively.
you say you should get 5 CPs because 5 CPs now cost 200k XP.
you lose exactly nothing, as you had 2 CPs before and you will have 2 CPs after.
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AyaDark✭✭✭✭✭MaxWacksem wrote: »AyaDark, you are confused nothing is being taken away, cp levels are being raised, you will be able to farm even more cp.
I did not farm CP i farm EXP points.
It is logick like: you have 100$
Some other currency is now 2 times cheaper.
So we take your $ currency - convert it to that currency, you now have the same amount -> and convert it yo $ again.
Ooops you now have 50$.
But do not worry you can farm more now, becouse that currncy is cheaper.
Always double standarts and always you get the less value from both, that you can.
But in first place i have $ currency not that another.
I farm EXP points not CP.
So how my EXP points i get can be converted in first place ?
Glad you brought up currency.
It's like you bought something for $100
6 months later it's on sale for $50
You're demanding the store return you the $50 difference.
That's not how it works
I do not think logick like this work hear becouse i did not buy CP.
But such changes are always bad.
But lose a lot of player base each update may be is new trend.
I know a lot of games, that do the same.
Some of them are already close a lot of servers.
But if no people - no lugs at all.
So may be it is good for the game ... .
fortunatly it is exactly the logic that works here. XP is the Currency, CP is the item.
you get 2 bananas for 2 dollars
you get 2 CPs for 200k XP
if the currency changes, you dont get compensated retroactively.
you say you should get 5 CPs because 5 CPs now cost 200k XP.
you lose exactly nothing, as you had 2 CPs before and you will have 2 CPs after.
Do you know why this logick do not work ?
Becouse it do work if you buy bananas.
The same it work for currency if you buy another currency. It is the way some people do money by the way. They buy it and sell for another price.
And they can get proffit or lose money.
But if you do not buy another currency, it do not work. You always will have your currency.
I did not buy the same currency the same way. If bank will do such operation with out your permission - and always give you the smallest possible value - what will you say ?
Just nothing good.
May be look for another bank.Edited by AyaDark on March 3, 2021 1:00PM0 -
PaddyVu✭✭✭✭MaxWacksem wrote: »AyaDark, you are confused nothing is being taken away, cp levels are being raised, you will be able to farm even more cp.
I did not farm CP i farm EXP points.
It is logick like: you have 100$
Some other currency is now 2 times cheaper.
So we take your $ currency - convert it to that currency, you now have the same amount -> and convert it yo $ again.
Ooops you now have 50$.
But do not worry you can farm more now, becouse that currncy is cheaper.
Always double standarts and always you get the less value from both, that you can.
But in first place i have $ currency not that another.
I farm EXP points not CP.
So how my EXP points i get can be converted in first place ?
Glad you brought up currency.
It's like you bought something for $100
6 months later it's on sale for $50
You're demanding the store return you the $50 difference.
That's not how it works
I do not think logick like this work hear becouse i did not buy CP.
But such changes are always bad.
But lose a lot of player base each update may be is new trend.
I know a lot of games, that do the same.
Some of them are already close a lot of servers.
But if no people - no lugs at all.
So may be it is good for the game ... .
fortunatly it is exactly the logic that works here. XP is the Currency, CP is the item.
you get 2 bananas for 2 dollars
you get 2 CPs for 200k XP
if the currency changes, you dont get compensated retroactively.
you say you should get 5 CPs because 5 CPs now cost 200k XP.
you lose exactly nothing, as you had 2 CPs before and you will have 2 CPs after.
Maybe cost time idk? U work 10 hours to get 100$. Now with the change, new player only need to work 3 hours to get 100$. Or this change aim to new player?0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭MaxWacksem wrote: »AyaDark, you are confused nothing is being taken away, cp levels are being raised, you will be able to farm even more cp.
I did not farm CP i farm EXP points.
It is logick like: you have 100$
Some other currency is now 2 times cheaper.
So we take your $ currency - convert it to that currency, you now have the same amount -> and convert it yo $ again.
Ooops you now have 50$.
But do not worry you can farm more now, becouse that currncy is cheaper.
Always double standarts and always you get the less value from both, that you can.
But in first place i have $ currency not that another.
I farm EXP points not CP.
So how my EXP points i get can be converted in first place ?
Glad you brought up currency.
It's like you bought something for $100
6 months later it's on sale for $50
You're demanding the store return you the $50 difference.
That's not how it works
I do not think logick like this work hear becouse i did not buy CP.
But such changes are always bad.
But lose a lot of player base each update may be is new trend.
I know a lot of games, that do the same.
Some of them are already close a lot of servers.
But if no people - no lugs at all.
So may be it is good for the game ... .
You did, in fact *buy* CP automatically with your XP. Whenever you reach a new CP threshold, you give your XP to ZOS and they give you a CP in return. It happens automatically, but that's how it is.
And ZOS adjusted the CP cap 10 times before they decided to stop and rework the system, and in none of those adjustments did anyone get their CP recalculated.
So they are doing the same thing they have always done. But it's going to be A LOT faster to earn CP after Monday for those of us that are above the current cap.Hallothiel wrote: »
May be take half of peoples money,DLC cwowns they have to then ?
It is just the same.
Just stealing our time and exp points.
I mean, if I bought the Clockwork City for 2000 crowns and now it's on sale for 1000, did ZOS steal 1000 crowns from me?
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you say you should get 5 CPs because 5 CPs now cost 200k XP.
you lose exactly nothing, as you had 2 CPs before and you will have 2 CPs after.
Depends on your point of view. Someone who is CP 810 now is still CP 810 after but will soon be surrounded by CP 810 players who previously would only have made CP 600 or so. So in a sense yes - it reduces the value of the existing achievement.
Imagine if you got Godslayer and then they made sunspire veteran really easy and everyone had it, or you got to be a 9 trait crafter and then someone sold "9 trait crafting unlock" on the crown store - you'd feel the same way I suspect ?
I'm currently stacking most of my enlightenment for the changeover 8)
Too many toons not enough time1 -
AlnilamE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭etchedpixels wrote: »[
you say you should get 5 CPs because 5 CPs now cost 200k XP.
you lose exactly nothing, as you had 2 CPs before and you will have 2 CPs after.
Depends on your point of view. Someone who is CP 810 now is still CP 810 after but will soon be surrounded by CP 810 players who previously would only have made CP 600 or so. So in a sense yes - it reduces the value of the existing achievement.
Imagine if you got Godslayer and then they made sunspire veteran really easy and everyone had it, or you got to be a 9 trait crafter and then someone sold "9 trait crafting unlock" on the crown store - you'd feel the same way I suspect ?
I'm currently stacking most of my enlightenment for the changeover 8)
Having newer players more easily catch up with people who have played forever is a good thing, though. More people to play with!The Moot Councillor4 -
Hallothiel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Still confused. As far as I see, nothing has been ‘stolen’ from me, nor is Zos being devious.
I have been playing since before the change from vet to cp came in, I get the xp/cp points I get at the rate for my level, and that is fine. As far as I have seen, I will have the same number of cp after the update as before - so what is the issue?
I really don’t understand exactly what @AyaDark is wanting.1
