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War Tortes (Can a ZOS member reply please)
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Ryath_Waylander✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ryath_Waylander wrote: »It's of no use to a pvp player after rank 10 I guess but to a pve player (that isn't allergic to pvp) interested in dyes, furnishings and titles, it's very handy.
To be fair, I'm a PvP player (multiple Emperor achievements), but I'm very interested in the dyes and furnishings. The titles I couldn't care less about, don't really use them. But to infer that PvP players aren't interested in housing or fashion would be incorrect.
Heh, my apologies. That was a generalisation
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Zabagad✭✭✭✭✭
✭War tortes give exp towards alliance ranks AND alliance skill lines. The wording of the tool tip points towards a increased alliance skill line bonus and NOT a alliance rank exp bonus.
Dont get me wrong... I love it. The grind to rank 50 is painful so this is a welcome feature but I am unsure if it is intended feature since its worded in a way to not point towards a increased gain to alliance ranks.
I am wanting to know if this IS intended or if its NOT intended. So if a ZOS employee can please let me know that would be nice. I dont want to drop 3-5m on tortes in the next MYM event just to find out it was fixed.
Thanks!
Thank you for asking + ty for the answer @ZOS
From the arival of the tortes I was just shacking my head and never understood who will need and buy these senceless item.
Now - ty again for asking - we all understand the real benefit and now I see that there are costumers of the tortes...PC EU (noCP AD) Grey/Grau AD
Please raise the population caps.
@ZOS - Convert the heal on "Hardened Ward" into a HoT pls.1 -
ChrisXO✭✭✭To be fair, I'm a PvP player (multiple Emperor achievements), but I'm very interested in the dyes and furnishings. The titles I couldn't care less about, don't really use them. But to infer that PvP players aren't interested in housing or fashion would be incorrect.
We get furnishings?- ad scrub -0 -
Ryath_Waylander✭✭✭✭✭
✭To be fair, I'm a PvP player (multiple Emperor achievements), but I'm very interested in the dyes and furnishings. The titles I couldn't care less about, don't really use them. But to infer that PvP players aren't interested in housing or fashion would be incorrect.
We get furnishings?
You can buy achievement furnishings at your home base, depending on your rank. Banners, shields, seige weapons in the alliance that your character is in. Been a while since I browsed through them but I think they can be bought for AP.Edited by Ryath_Waylander on February 25, 2021 1:56PM2 -
ZOS_AdrikothadminHey folks,
To add onto our previous update, our team will be working to update the tooltip to ensure that the description is clearer. Thank you for your understanding!The Elder Scrolls Online - ZeniMax Online Studios
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Rezdayn✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_Adrikoth wrote: »Hey folks,
To add onto our previous update, our team will be working to update the tooltip to ensure that the description is clearer. Thank you for your understanding!
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Jaraal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Ryath_Waylander wrote: »To be fair, I'm a PvP player (multiple Emperor achievements), but I'm very interested in the dyes and furnishings. The titles I couldn't care less about, don't really use them. But to infer that PvP players aren't interested in housing or fashion would be incorrect.
We get furnishings?
You can buy achievement furnishings at your home base, depending on your rank. Banners, shields, seige weapons in the alliance that your character is in. Been a while since I browsed through them but I think they can be bought for AP.
Yes, there are quite a few.
http://lovelynorth.com/achievementfurnishings/cyrodiil/
Battlegrounds also increase your Rank Points. But the furnishings are achievement related and cost gold, rather than AP.
http://lovelynorth.com/achievementfurnishings/battlegrounds/RIP Bosmer Nation. 4/4/14 - 2/25/19.0 -
ChrisXO✭✭✭Thanks all - I had no idea!
Although the furnishings really are a bring your work home kind of thing...- ad scrub -0 -
Oreyn_Bearclaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »Would have been nice to know BEFORE the last few double AP events.
Except the war tortes aren't affected by double AP. Double AP gives you double Rank Points, whereas torts give you a 50/100/150% boost in Rank Points.
Confusing, isn't it?
Sounds like rank is affected by both, which is certainly not clear. A plain reading of the tool tip would suggest that once your alliance skill lines are rank 10, these are useless.
I could care less about anything other than my alliance rank at this point. I have more AP than I know what to do with, and I have no interest in chasing emp.0 -
Jaraal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Thanks all - I had no idea!
Although the furnishings really are a bring your work home kind of thing...
Yes, they are very useful for building a battlefield themed property. However, the unique lightning, ice, and fire effects can be used in any build if you cleverly sink the siege weaponry into walls, floors, and such.
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tmbrinks✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »150% War Torte
So it does exist in the game?
Did you craft it yourself, or bought from other player? And if bought, how much did it cost?
Bought from another. I know the 50% and 100% recipes. Paid 120k for each one. PC/NA. TTC shows them selling them now for 100k each.
With the amount of writs I do, gold is no issue, just wanted to get the GO achievement
So to be clear on live, they will buff your progress towards GO? They just dont result in helping your campaign leaderboard spot or the AP currency that you actually receive?
This is a very confusing tooltip and not how I understood they worked. I might actually get some of these now. Grats on GO. I just hit 44 and would like to make the push. This would certainly help my motivation.
As others have stated, if these only help you get to alliance rank 10, they are pretty worthless. If they affect skill rank and not campaign leaderboard for emp/rewards, I see no problem with them buffing your personal rank. But clarification would be nice.
I know it's already been answered, but yes, they absolutely increase your rank points towards getting to GO.
I tested before the event with a 50% war torte. I had found the book to make it in other expeditions into PVP, so just made a few myself, since the mats (Cyrodiil Citrus) are cheap and plentiful. Went into Cyrodiil and repaired a wall w/o the torte. Got like 70 AP/rank points. Popped the war torte, got 70 AP but 105 rank points.
Bought the recipe for the 100% versions and was just going to use those until I found the 150% for sale. Contacted the seller and had them make me some more (while giving them the 100% ones you need to make them) and had enough to constantly run it for most of MYM.
I gained over 23 million points towards my alliance rank, but only gained about 9 million AP (which I spent a lot of on wall repair kits for when the PVP was dead, as repairing walls with MYM + Low Pop + Scroll was giving like 700 rank points + per repair
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What I was most surprised about was that it was multiplicative w/ the MYM bonus (and low pop bonus), rather than additive. I would have thought the tortes would multiply the BASE rank points by 1.5 and then add them. But they were multiplying the BASE + MYM bonus by that 1.5 and then adding them.Tenacious Dreamer - Hurricane Herald - Godslayer - Dawnbringer - Gryphon Heart - Tick Tock Tormenter - Immortal Redeemer - Dro-m'Athra DestroyerThe Unchained - Oathsworn - Bedlam's Disciple - Temporal Tempest - Curator's Champion - Fist of Tava - Invader's Bane - Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy - Zero Regrets - Battlespire's Best - Bastion Breaker - Ardent Bibliophile - Subterranean Smasher - Bane of Thorns - True Genius - In Defiance of Death - No Rest for the Wicked - Nature's Wrath - Undying Endurance - Relentless Raider - Depths Defier - Apex Predator - Pure Lunacy - Mountain God - Leave No Bone Unbroken - CoS/RoM/BF/FH Challenger65,385 achievement points3 -
Techwolf_Lupindo✭✭✭I gained over 23 million points towards my alliance rank, but only gained about 9 million AP (which I spent a lot of on wall repair kits for when the PVP was dead, as repairing walls with MYM + Low Pop + Scroll was giving like 700 rank points + per repair )
What I was most surprised about was that it was multiplicative w/ the MYM bonus (and low pop bonus), rather than additive. I would have thought the tortes would multiply the BASE rank points by 1.5 and then add them. But they were multiplying the BASE + MYM bonus by that 1.5 and then adding them.
What about the emperor rank? Did it increase the ranking on the emperor leaderboard?
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WaywardArgonian✭✭✭✭✭Techwolf_Lupindo wrote: »I gained over 23 million points towards my alliance rank, but only gained about 9 million AP (which I spent a lot of on wall repair kits for when the PVP was dead, as repairing walls with MYM + Low Pop + Scroll was giving like 700 rank points + per repair )
What I was most surprised about was that it was multiplicative w/ the MYM bonus (and low pop bonus), rather than additive. I would have thought the tortes would multiply the BASE rank points by 1.5 and then add them. But they were multiplying the BASE + MYM bonus by that 1.5 and then adding them.
What about the emperor rank? Did it increase the ranking on the emperor leaderboard?
Nope, Emperor rank is determined by the actual AP you gain, and the war torte does not increase your actual AP, but just the rank points until your next rank. So to give a concrete example, I currently have a 3 million AP leaderboard score in the campaign, but seeing as I used war tortes yesterday and today, I progressed about 3.5 million points towards my next rank.PC/EU altaholic | Smallscale & ballgroup healer | Former Empanada of Ravenwatch | @ degonyte in-game | Nibani Ilath-Pal (AD Nightblade) - AvA rank 50 | Jehanne Teymour (AD Sorcerer) - AvA rank 50 | Niria Ilath-Pal (AD Templar) - AvA rank 500 -
Jaraal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Techwolf_Lupindo wrote: »I gained over 23 million points towards my alliance rank, but only gained about 9 million AP (which I spent a lot of on wall repair kits for when the PVP was dead, as repairing walls with MYM + Low Pop + Scroll was giving like 700 rank points + per repair )
What I was most surprised about was that it was multiplicative w/ the MYM bonus (and low pop bonus), rather than additive. I would have thought the tortes would multiply the BASE rank points by 1.5 and then add them. But they were multiplying the BASE + MYM bonus by that 1.5 and then adding them.
What about the emperor rank? Did it increase the ranking on the emperor leaderboard?
Emperor is strictly Alliance Points driven.New Craftable Consumable: Alliance War Skill Boosters
We've introduced a new set of consumables: the Colovian War Torte, the Molten War Torte, and the White-Gold War Torte. These items increase the rate at which you advance your Alliance War Skill Lines by 50%, 100%, or 150%, respectively.
When can you use these?
The War Tortes can be used by any character Level 10 or above.
What do these consumables' boosts do?
The boost applies only towards advancing your Alliance War Skill Lines. They do not help you earn more AP, become Emperor, or gain a place in the Leaderboard.
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tmbrinks✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Techwolf_Lupindo wrote: »I gained over 23 million points towards my alliance rank, but only gained about 9 million AP (which I spent a lot of on wall repair kits for when the PVP was dead, as repairing walls with MYM + Low Pop + Scroll was giving like 700 rank points + per repair )
What I was most surprised about was that it was multiplicative w/ the MYM bonus (and low pop bonus), rather than additive. I would have thought the tortes would multiply the BASE rank points by 1.5 and then add them. But they were multiplying the BASE + MYM bonus by that 1.5 and then adding them.
What about the emperor rank? Did it increase the ranking on the emperor leaderboard?
Nope, so no P2W concerns about getting to emperor by using the war tortes.Tenacious Dreamer - Hurricane Herald - Godslayer - Dawnbringer - Gryphon Heart - Tick Tock Tormenter - Immortal Redeemer - Dro-m'Athra DestroyerThe Unchained - Oathsworn - Bedlam's Disciple - Temporal Tempest - Curator's Champion - Fist of Tava - Invader's Bane - Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy - Zero Regrets - Battlespire's Best - Bastion Breaker - Ardent Bibliophile - Subterranean Smasher - Bane of Thorns - True Genius - In Defiance of Death - No Rest for the Wicked - Nature's Wrath - Undying Endurance - Relentless Raider - Depths Defier - Apex Predator - Pure Lunacy - Mountain God - Leave No Bone Unbroken - CoS/RoM/BF/FH Challenger65,385 achievement points0 -
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but it stack as in 150% for taking keeps, resources and killing players. The current 100% don't work for quests but that is minor.Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »Would have been nice to know BEFORE the last few double AP events.
Except the war tortes aren't affected by double AP. Double AP gives you double Rank Points, whereas torts give you a 50/100/150% boost in Rank Points.
Confusing, isn't it?
Thanks you, this match Khajiit experience using them.ZOS_Adrikoth wrote: »Hey folks,
We wanted to clarify that War Tortes are intended to increase skill line progress and alliance rank. We hope this clears things up!
And no proc set pvp has been very fun, granted it was idiotic fun the first days then the trolls died.
So many overlords on the floor.
This one is not an good pvp or pve player, say upper middle class on best builds but they was obviously carried by sets.
Granted ignoring troll builds is default in guild.
In an pug, if you enter an tower or hump an rock with the trolls and die, kick from group and you die unless you are so good you don't join pug groups.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
agegarton✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I don’t think this is we’ll know. With a tooltip update, I predict the AP pots will become more popular.0
