I barely remember any specific quests. I hated anything in busywork, I mean, clockwork city. I can't stand the layout of that map and its wayshrines.

BlueViolet wrote: »

I'm another who absolutely loathes Sun-in-Shadow and related questline.
I really dislike not being able to have an alternative way to solve this questline, and feel basically shoehorned into helping her get her way without any other option.
We could have at least had the option to kill her at the end

Or, just a thought, after she gets her *** arrested for murder, we have the option to leave her imprisoned for, you know, assassinating a member of the house, help Eoki with his escape plan, and call it a day. I could get behind that.

Into the woods is awful.

You have to follow someone but not too close, you need to touch the wisps but when you do you pull mobs and then fail the time

Rinse, repeat, rage quit.


The worst part is that it's MAIN story line. The very reason that I have only done it on 2 of my 12 characters. That and the fact that Coldharbor is just terrible, dreary and low res.

RedFireDisco wrote: »

Into the woods is awful.

You have to follow someone but not too close, you need to touch the wisps but when you do you pull mobs and then fail the time

Rinse, repeat, rage quit.

Lol, yes! I just had that one yesterday evening again... terrible!

The Sadrith Mora (Telvanni) quest is one of my favourites because the character was an interesting exploration of ambition, self-delusion and maybe stockholm synrome, in the sort of character you wouldn't necessarily expect. There's something not black-and-white, and recognisably human in it. I find stories like this compelling because the writer is employing their deep observation about the world, and how people are, and it causes me to reflect.

I strongly agree with everyone here, though. The problem is the complete lack of agency, and you see it in a lot of other quests, too (a lot of everyone's least favourite quests here are because of this reason). You can work out what's going on early, but you are rewarded for your cleverness, observation or engagement in the world they are creating by being captive to the writer's whims, stuck on rails til the very end whether you like it or not. How I (or my avatar) feels about the particular situation doesn't matter. Someone decided what I want, or who I think my character is, is unimportant.

Its an identical situation with SPOILERS !!!.... the Orsinium main storlyline. The writing in this is actually quite good, and we get to explore really human, understandable flaws in otherwise great people. But the story represents a couple of great opportunities to explore two compelling points of view (the Winterborn's plight, the competion between the temples) that you have absolutely no agency in, because someone decided what you will do for you, and we just have to sit it out til the end.

For reading a novel, this is fine, but its completely unsatisfactory from an RPG, especially an Elder Scrolls one. The unreliable narrator is a great device for not committing to some particular piece of lore, but it works both ways. Show, don't tell. Let us explore the story for ourselves, and give us a reason to care.

At the end of the day, I think its about development values - because if the writers aren't given the time or the mandate to write good Elder Scrolls stories, we wont see them in game.

wolfbone wrote: »

the one with the shadow walkers in coldharbour. I hate it cos of how hard it is to keep following the elf, with out them up and disapearing

Yeah, I hate that quest. Most of my characters now just ignore it. Otherwise, I choose to support the Lamia, and I kill every elf I see.

Minnesinger wrote: »

This one I remember still. It was a nightmare. Didn´t help that it was also bugged for a long time and so many players tried to do the same quest.

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This quest was broken back in 2014. The cold fire flames would not ignite the targets because they were misaligned. People were dying all over the place (falling deaths) while trying to find ways to activate the flame alters. Really hindered character progress.

Southern Elsweyr: order of the new moon. Pushing those blue cubes around.

Actually, I also dislike the daily quests from Speaker Terenus - that time limit is so annoying and has nothing to do with a smooth and elegant assassination. It's just counterproductive.

Mik195 wrote: »

What I hate about the Sun in Shadow quest is that she shows up at the end of the Morrowind main quest. So while my character wanted to have nothing to do with her ever again after the quest, ZOS has decided that we're best friends which annoys me and nakes me think we're supposed to not hate her.

For me, Sun in Shadows showing up in Vivec City was what made that quest feel good. It's a celebration, Vivec is there and people are gathering around, but Sun in Shadows is behind a corner alone, badly pretending to fit in but knowing fully well she doesn't.

IMO she calls us friend and invite us over for tea because we're the only ones who still pay attention to her. We are the only ones left whom she can trust - Telvanni in lower rankings might want to kill her to gain status, just like she did, and the ones above her might want her neutralized so she can't jeopardize their position.



I was hoping I could tell the guy who has the pet goblin about what was going on and was disappointed to find out it wasn't possible. I won't do it any other char.

Selene's Web was awful and I wish we could at least slap that high elf at the end of Maarselok. I wouldn't even mind if I got a bounty for it.

Vaults of Madness is another quest I hate. I love the dungeon, but the story makes me angry. The ghosts we help there are the direct culprits for the whole thing happening, they drove the man into madness and we're supposed to free the ghosts and kill the mad architect.

That telvanni quest... you all know the one I mean.

Lady Clarisse Laurent and Stibbons quests... God... how i manage to pull through that. Seems as bad as ffxiv's company of heroes questline, Mogtown quests or manderville quests.

I couldn't pick a specific one. Globally, I dislike quests mainly when:
- we go back and forth within same zone, with same foes to be killed over and over again.
- quest is never ending, with each NPC we talk to giving one more thing to do again, and again, and again...

And since many are like that, I can't really identify one worse than another. Very personal opinion of course! My laziness is - as usual - speaking here...