CP 1800 Template char?

MotokoHutt · February 2021

Simple question, its been asked before but I feel like if we don't keep pestering it won't get done. ZoS has stated that cp 1800 is where vertical progression cap's off, so can we PLEASE have a template char for cp 1800 instead of 810. I mean on live I am cp 1400 odd but even then testing with that amount of CP is a net dps loss on dummy parses so I am currently unable to test any build setups. I am normaly a player who tests on pts allot and I have been part of every pts cycle since around morrowind time, but without a template at the vertical limit this pts cycle has been pointless so I havent bothered.

Testing build's for this dlc is literaly going to be me grinding to cp 1800 on live the day of release and just winging it spending money in a currently inflated econemy to gold items out just to see if there good or garbage, which completely voids the entire point of having a public "Test" server.

Olupajmibanan · February 2021

MotokoHutt wrote: »

Simple question, its been asked before but I feel like if we don't keep pestering it won't get done. ZoS has stated that cp 1800 is where vertical progression cap's off, so can we PLEASE have a template char for cp 1800 instead of 810. I mean on live I am cp 1400 odd but even then testing with that amount of CP is a net dps loss on dummy parses so I am currently unable to test any build setups. I am normaly a player who tests on pts allot and I have been part of every pts cycle since around morrowind time, but without a template at the vertical limit this pts cycle has been pointless so I havent bothered. Testing build's for this dlc is literaly going to be me grinding to cp 1800 on live the day of release and just winging it spending money in a currently inflated econemy to gold items out just to see if there good or garbage, which completely voids the entire point of having a public "Test" server.

You can absolutely do dummy parses with 1400 CP. You just don't slot any mitigation passives and simply put all your points into damage.

If you want to test the DPS in actual encounter, that's different story. I agree with the need for 1800 template but doubt they'll bring it so late in the PTS cycle.

MotokoHutt · February 2021

Olupajmibanan wrote: »

MotokoHutt wrote: »

Simple question, its been asked before but I feel like if we don't keep pestering it won't get done. ZoS has stated that cp 1800 is where vertical progression cap's off, so can we PLEASE have a template char for cp 1800 instead of 810. I mean on live I am cp 1400 odd but even then testing with that amount of CP is a net dps loss on dummy parses so I am currently unable to test any build setups. I am normaly a player who tests on pts allot and I have been part of every pts cycle since around morrowind time, but without a template at the vertical limit this pts cycle has been pointless so I havent bothered. Testing build's for this dlc is literaly going to be me grinding to cp 1800 on live the day of release and just winging it spending money in a currently inflated econemy to gold items out just to see if there good or garbage, which completely voids the entire point of having a public "Test" server.

You can absolutely do dummy parses with 1400 CP. You just don't slot any mitigation passives and simply put all your points into damage.

If you want to test the DPS in actual encounter, that's different story. I agree with the need for 1800 template but doubt they'll bring it so late in the PTS cycle.

When I test builds on PTS I do several days of parse tests, then I get a group together and do the new dungeons on vet hardmode & sometimes I have even done a few vet trials. But ether way After EU copy over ends there will only be templates left and then it will be only cp 810 chars available and those are not even any good for dummy parses.

ZOS_GinaBruno · February 2021

We're seeing if we can increase the amount of CP on the template for next week's PTS patch.

skinnycheeks · February 2021

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We're seeing if we can increase the amount of CP on the template for next week's PTS patch.

Ah that would be amazing. I don't have CP on EU so haven't been able to properly test this week with only 810 CP on the templates.

karekiz · February 2021

Just set it to max CP for template. No need to go half-way. For example if EU server rolls around and I have a 2.8K CP char in a year or so I would like to test my character.

renne · February 2021

MotokoHutt wrote: »

Simple question, its been asked before but I feel like if we don't keep pestering it won't get done. ZoS has stated that cp 1800 is where vertical progression cap's off, so can we PLEASE have a template char for cp 1800 instead of 810. I mean on live I am cp 1400 odd but even then testing with that amount of CP is a net dps loss on dummy parses so I am currently unable to test any build setups. I am normaly a player who tests on pts allot and I have been part of every pts cycle since around morrowind time, but without a template at the vertical limit this pts cycle has been pointless so I havent bothered. Testing build's for this dlc is literaly going to be me grinding to cp 1800 on live the day of release and just winging it spending money in a currently inflated econemy to gold items out just to see if there good or garbage, which completely voids the entire point of having a public "Test" server.

You don't have to gold something out to test builds though, you'll know at purple if they're good or garbage.

I mean, I agree they should still have a 1800CP template, but yeah.

MotokoHutt · February 2021

renne wrote: »

MotokoHutt wrote: »

Simple question, its been asked before but I feel like if we don't keep pestering it won't get done. ZoS has stated that cp 1800 is where vertical progression cap's off, so can we PLEASE have a template char for cp 1800 instead of 810. I mean on live I am cp 1400 odd but even then testing with that amount of CP is a net dps loss on dummy parses so I am currently unable to test any build setups. I am normaly a player who tests on pts allot and I have been part of every pts cycle since around morrowind time, but without a template at the vertical limit this pts cycle has been pointless so I havent bothered. Testing build's for this dlc is literaly going to be me grinding to cp 1800 on live the day of release and just winging it spending money in a currently inflated econemy to gold items out just to see if there good or garbage, which completely voids the entire point of having a public "Test" server.

You don't have to gold something out to test builds though, you'll know at purple if they're good or garbage.

I mean, I agree they should still have a 1800CP template, but yeah.

Frankly if your trying to push numbers on a dummy for end game raid groups then gold can be very important.

renne · February 2021

MotokoHutt wrote: »

renne wrote: »

MotokoHutt wrote: »

Simple question, its been asked before but I feel like if we don't keep pestering it won't get done. ZoS has stated that cp 1800 is where vertical progression cap's off, so can we PLEASE have a template char for cp 1800 instead of 810. I mean on live I am cp 1400 odd but even then testing with that amount of CP is a net dps loss on dummy parses so I am currently unable to test any build setups. I am normaly a player who tests on pts allot and I have been part of every pts cycle since around morrowind time, but without a template at the vertical limit this pts cycle has been pointless so I havent bothered. Testing build's for this dlc is literaly going to be me grinding to cp 1800 on live the day of release and just winging it spending money in a currently inflated econemy to gold items out just to see if there good or garbage, which completely voids the entire point of having a public "Test" server.

You don't have to gold something out to test builds though, you'll know at purple if they're good or garbage.

I mean, I agree they should still have a 1800CP template, but yeah.

Frankly if your trying to push numbers on a dummy for end game raid groups then gold can be very important.

Yes. I know. I am also in end game raid groups.

And I also know that you'll know if you should try gear that's been golded out by what you get on purple, or if it's not worth the cost.

MotokoHutt · February 2021

renne wrote: »

MotokoHutt wrote: »

renne wrote: »

MotokoHutt wrote: »

Simple question, its been asked before but I feel like if we don't keep pestering it won't get done. ZoS has stated that cp 1800 is where vertical progression cap's off, so can we PLEASE have a template char for cp 1800 instead of 810. I mean on live I am cp 1400 odd but even then testing with that amount of CP is a net dps loss on dummy parses so I am currently unable to test any build setups. I am normaly a player who tests on pts allot and I have been part of every pts cycle since around morrowind time, but without a template at the vertical limit this pts cycle has been pointless so I havent bothered. Testing build's for this dlc is literaly going to be me grinding to cp 1800 on live the day of release and just winging it spending money in a currently inflated econemy to gold items out just to see if there good or garbage, which completely voids the entire point of having a public "Test" server.

You don't have to gold something out to test builds though, you'll know at purple if they're good or garbage.

I mean, I agree they should still have a 1800CP template, but yeah.

Frankly if your trying to push numbers on a dummy for end game raid groups then gold can be very important.

Yes. I know. I am also in end game raid groups.

And I also know that you'll know if you should try gear that's been golded out by what you get on purple, or if it's not worth the cost.

Well for testing gear I strive for what is or is not viable rather then what is optimal you see, and I personaly view a build that can hit 90k+ dps as a success and a build that tops 100k+ as vet trial speedrun worthy, and having purple gear vs gold gear can mean the diference between hitting say 88k vs hitting 90k or 98k vs 100k for instance. While sure I may using purple gear know whether or not a build can hit the numbers, or whether or not it can sustain, or whether or not it's a complete write-off, there is a big diference from "knowing" and being able to show evidence. Does that make sense?