Maintenance for the week of April 13:
• PC/Mac: No maintenance – April 13
Update 50 is now available for testing on the PTS! You can read the latest patch notes here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/categories/pts

Reduce Maw of the Infernal size (-%20)

Merlin7331
Merlin7331
Soul Shriven
As a Maw of the Infernal user, and with companions coming in upcoming updates, I would think it a simple quality of life improvement if we dropped the size of the big fella down by 20%. He’s massive, obstructive, and also easily mistaken for an enemy in instances like Banished Cells II.

Reduce Maw of the Infernal size (-%20) 106 votes

Reduce size 20%
64%
Oakmontowls_ESOGninejonathanb16_ESOGigasaxMarchastreApoAlaiaArtemis_X_AektannZunaRoathSeaUnicornZachary_ShadowDaemonaipreeviousMettaricanaParasaurolophusDrayzonligegladZer0_CooLMindcr0wVoodooPlatypus 68 votes
Don’t reduce the size
18%
vailjohn_ESOthomas1970b16_ESOluen79rwb17_ESOElvenheartC0L0SSUSxericdxMyNameIsEliasraaphormikemaconBatgirlSjudelichontsaescishoeshinerBunny_guarAraneae6537BohnT2supersonic_kittenDaggerlockStarlight_WhisperDonGodJoe 20 votes
Other (explain)
16%
ColoniaCroisantkojouTannus15redspecter23BananaRunefangOlupajmibananThannazzarMinyassaccfeelingpelle412TPishekNairinheXebovrobprtomofhyrulestefj68honey_badger82 18 votes
  • MashmalloMan
    MashmalloMan
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Reduce size 20%
    Shouldn't of specified a size because people will just choose other to specify a different number.

    This also has nothing to do with any of the PTS changes so it would be better suited for the Combat or General section of the forums. You'd get more traction too.

    But yeah, I'd take half the size at this point, along with all other pets in the game.
    @MashmalloMan - PC NA

    PC Beta - 2400+ CP
  • Runefang
    Runefang
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    Other (explain)
    Would prefer he just be invisible to other players (toggle option maybe).
  • tomofhyrule
    tomofhyrule
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Other (explain)
    As much as I like him around sometimes, that thing is ridiculously annoying when he spawns right on top of you when you're trying to watch for a boss' heavies. Some dungeons all I can do is hold block and pray while Maw, Colossus, Atronach, Scamp, and Matriarch are all completely blocking me from seeing a thing.

    I think the Aegis Caller set is only visible for the person who procs it, and I'd like to see that with some other sets as well. Or at least have it so anyone marked as tank can have group members' pets invisible. Definitely would make it easier to see boss telegraphs.
  • Merlin7331
    Merlin7331
    Soul Shriven
    Reduce size 20%
    Apologies if this is the wrong forum for this post I just thought it pertinent with regards to the companion updates
  • Thannazzar
    Thannazzar
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Other (explain)
    Just get him to flank the enemy instead of getting in the tanks way and blocking telegraph's!
  • honey_badger82
    honey_badger82
    ✭✭✭✭
    Other (explain)
    It needs to be programmed to attack flank and rear instead of head on then it wont be as much of an issue. As a tank I try and turn the boss away from the daedroth and he follows everytime getting right back in front. This monster set has made it literally impossible to clear some vet dungeons when someone is wearing it. Cant see the heavy attacks and 1 shots that just happen to hit the moment you drop your shield for a badly needed heavy attack RSS restore.
  • Kurat
    Kurat
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    I just ask people to use other monster set, if they refuse I'll kick them, if kick doesn't happen then I'll leave. Problem solved
  • Inklings
    Inklings
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Give us Smawl of the Infernal plz.
  • Tannus15
    Tannus15
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Other (explain)
    should not be visible to group members the same as other effects.
    ez.
  • redspecter23
    redspecter23
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Other (explain)
    100% reduction. I don't want to look at it at all, ever.
  • Banana
    Banana
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Other (explain)
    See no pets option
  • LightYagami
    LightYagami
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Reduce size 20%
    Reduce sizes of all combat pets please.
    No improvement on Cyrodill servers -> no ESO plus renewal.
  • ccfeeling
    ccfeeling
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    Other (explain)
    90% or above please .

    As a tank , Maw is nightmare .
  • stefj68
    stefj68
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Other (explain)
    well it should be 25% of its current size. its so big its a pain for tanks all over the place and melee characters
  • Araneae6537
    Araneae6537
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Don’t reduce the size
    Maybe make it and other summons something else entirely? I feel like 20% smaller would just look strange and not do much to address the problem. I’ve definitely attacked player summons, dodged out of the way of fire and on the other hand ignored daedra I shouldn’t have. The mistake is soon realized, of course, but it seems a strange and unnecessary problem to have to begin with.
  • Starlight_Whisper
    Starlight_Whisper
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Don’t reduce the size
    As much as I like him around sometimes, that thing is ridiculously annoying when he spawns right on top of you when you're trying to watch for a boss' heavies. Some dungeons all I can do is hold block and pray while Maw, Colossus, Atronach, Scamp, and Matriarch are all completely blocking me from seeing a thing.

    I think the Aegis Caller set is only visible for the person who procs it, and I'd like to see that with some other sets as well. Or at least have it so anyone marked as tank can have group members' pets invisible. Definitely would make it easier to see boss telegraphs.

    What about the bear!
  • Olupajmibanan
    Olupajmibanan
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    Other (explain)
    Add a toggle option in settings "Hide allied pets" just like we have the option to hide allied ground AoEs. Simple option, not much work since it is already an existing feature with AoEs, solves most if not all problems related to pets.

    Solves Daedroths/Matriarchs/Bears blocking tank sight problem.
    Solves pets making encounters less transparent problem.
    Solves pets blocking crafting station problems.
    Solves trial group looking like zoo problem when many of pet classes are present.
    Edited by Olupajmibanan on February 8, 2021 7:13AM
  • LadyNalcarya
    LadyNalcarya
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Reduce size 20%
    Reducing its size would be nice but honestly I would prefer an option to turn off player's pets (unless in pvp zone or duel). They're just an eyesore and I'm tired of bears blocking my writ boxes.
    Edited by LadyNalcarya on February 8, 2021 7:44AM
    Dro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason

    PC/EU
  • robpr
    robpr
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Other (explain)
    Make them invisible
  • Minyassa
    Minyassa
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭
    Other (explain)
    Or make them a really loud, different color from the normal ones! Hot pink would be fun. Or highlighter yellow and neon green.
  • Batgirl
    Batgirl
    ✭✭✭
    Don’t reduce the size
    I'd love my Maw neon yellow, 20% bigger and with this fancy armour that daedroths in white gold tower wear :D
    Edited by Batgirl on February 8, 2021 11:33AM
  • Nairinhe
    Nairinhe
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭
    Other (explain)
    Make all combat pets, including those from sets, invisible, unless they are yours or enemy's in PVP
  • Xebov
    Xebov
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Other (explain)
    This would not solve the main issue: He spawns right infront of the enemy, which means for Bosses between the Boss and the Tank. Having it 20% reduced in size would barely do anything. What you need is a different spawn mechanic so it spawns either on the side or behind an enemy so it is out of the tanks way.
    Edited by Xebov on February 8, 2021 2:20PM
  • katorga
    katorga
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    Reduce size 20%
    Maw needs to be the size of the sorc volatile familiar.

    Matriarch needs to be the same size (or maybe double) of a nixad non-combat pet.

    Ice staff shield needs to be made less visually disruptive.
  • pelle412
    pelle412
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Other (explain)
    I think the size is fine, but from a tank PoV it would be better if the daedroth attacked its target from the angle of the caster rather than all stacking right in front of the tank.
  • Fennwitty
    Fennwitty
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    Reduce size 20%
    20% minimum. And/or make it semi-transparent like a ghost.

    I swear it's coded to always spawn and exactly stand on top of my tank while blocking my view of the boss. Unless there are legitimate Daedroth enemies -- in which case it runs all around randomly so I can't tell which is real.
    PC NA
  • renne
    renne
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    Reduce size 20%
    Shrink him, bears, birds and dog combat pets. The monkey can stay it's small enough.
    Fennwitty wrote: »
    20% minimum. And/or make it semi-transparent like a ghost.

    I swear it's coded to always spawn and exactly stand on top of my tank while blocking my view of the boss. Unless there are legitimate Daedroth enemies -- in which case it runs all around randomly so I can't tell which is real.

    It is. It's absolutely coded to spawn directly in front of the enemy, and often moves so it stays in front of the enemy, which is awful for the tank or anyone holding aggro.
  • Deter1UK
    Deter1UK
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    renne wrote: »
    Shrink him, bears, birds and dog combat pets. The monkey can stay it's small enough.
    Fennwitty wrote: »
    20% minimum. And/or make it semi-transparent like a ghost.

    I swear it's coded to always spawn and exactly stand on top of my tank while blocking my view of the boss. Unless there are legitimate Daedroth enemies -- in which case it runs all around randomly so I can't tell which is real.

    It is. It's absolutely coded to spawn directly in front of the enemy, and often moves so it stays in front of the enemy, which is awful for the tank or anyone holding aggro.

    Does the daedroth itself not hold aggro? (I don't know but mine seems to) . If so having it do a flanking or rear attack would mean your Boss will be constantly turning to face it with and end result of them both spinning in circles - or am I wrong?


    (Mind you I might be confused as I'm running (for solo fun only) a 6 pet build at the moment so who knows what's got the aggro!)
    Edited by Deter1UK on February 8, 2021 10:02PM
  • renne
    renne
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    Reduce size 20%
    Deter1UK wrote: »
    renne wrote: »
    Shrink him, bears, birds and dog combat pets. The monkey can stay it's small enough.
    Fennwitty wrote: »
    20% minimum. And/or make it semi-transparent like a ghost.

    I swear it's coded to always spawn and exactly stand on top of my tank while blocking my view of the boss. Unless there are legitimate Daedroth enemies -- in which case it runs all around randomly so I can't tell which is real.

    It is. It's absolutely coded to spawn directly in front of the enemy, and often moves so it stays in front of the enemy, which is awful for the tank or anyone holding aggro.

    Does the daedroth itself not hold aggro? (I don't know but mine seems to) . If so having it do a flanking or rear attack would mean your Boss will be constantly turning to face it with and end result of them both spinning in circles - or am I wrong?


    (Mind you I might be confused as I'm running (for solo fun only) a 6 pet build at the moment so who knows what's got the aggro!)

    I don't know, but when I am running dungeons with my friends who run Maw, we're all on DPS but I'm usually the one holding aggro because I have the higher DPS and it's ALWAYS in front of me, even when I move to get away from it and the boss follows me.
  • GoodFella146
    GoodFella146
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Make him as big as the boss
Sign In or Register to comment.