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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/683901

Why no voice chat on eso PC

  • Elo106
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    Id like ingame voice chat, discord and other extra programs arent really an alternative cause most people would rather type than add someone in discord just to talk for a dungeon or 2.

    If it gets annoying just turn it off :)
  • GreenHere
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    Quite frankly, ESO has enough problems without adding this feature into the mix.

    Would it be nice to have? Sure, I guess. Not for me personally, but I could turn it off and let the people who wanted it be happy.

    Do I have faith in the devs to add this feature without breaking other (way more important) stuff? Well...
  • adriant1978
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    It would just be one more thing for ZOS to maintain and might put extra load on the servers.

    I assume on consoles the voice chat is game-independent and supplied by Microsoft/Sony.
  • Tsar_Gekkou
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    Danikat wrote: »
    Aye cause what I need is 12 year olds playing their crap rap music through the headset as I run past them

    Who actually goes into zone chat to hear that? I've never had that problem because I don't force that on myself. I just use voice for trials and sometimes dungeons if the randoms aren't up to speed.

    So most of the time you have voice chat off and don't get to talk to other people at all? I thought the premise here was that built-in voice chat makes the game more sociable, but if it's off unless you're in a small group then I don't see how it's any different to using Discord on PC.

    Built-in voice chat does make the game more sociable. If I join a group and want to talk to the group members, it's instantly ready for everyone, instead of me having to make sure discord is open and then start up a chat and post a link and wait for people to join the chat. Imagine talking to people in real life. You probably wouldn't just go blabbering the first things that come to your mind in random people's ears while walking down the street(zone chat), but if you wanted to sit down and talk to some friends, built-in voice chat is like just talking to your group of friends, while the alternative is passing each person a walkie-talkie and waiting for them to pick them up and turn them on to use them. I'm just not sure why some people think that having to take extra steps to reach the same goal is better then only needing one step.
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  • JKorr
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    Calm_Fury wrote: »
    People will say that there are other programs on PC that do that, but don't be fooled. The experience is NOT the same.

    It is the only thing I truly miss from consoles.

    Discord is not even close to being the same thing, specially when you do PUG dungeons, trials or just want to laugh at the crazy people in Daggerfall voice chat.

    The social experience is just very different on PC due to that (for the worse, in my opinion).

    If such a thing existed on PC, I would turn it off immediately. :smile:

    Yes, same here. I don't want to hear all the background voices, music, random trash-talking and all the rest of it. At the very least it'd be another thing I'd have to turn off, like zone chat.
  • Integral1900
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    Voice chat... good grief, what a horrific idea.... ☹️
  • Calm_Fury
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    Calm_Fury wrote: »
    People will say that there are other programs on PC that do that, but don't be fooled. The experience is NOT the same.

    It is the only thing I truly miss from consoles.

    Discord is not even close to being the same thing, specially when you do PUG dungeons, trials or just want to laugh at the crazy people in Daggerfall voice chat.

    The social experience is just very different on PC due to that (for the worse, in my opinion).

    If such a thing existed on PC, I would turn it off immediately. :smile:

    To each its own. It is just different when you are starting on ESO on console and have that on by default.

    I enjoyed it and made great friends by just talking to people in PUG dungeons.
  • UGotBenched91
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    Calm_Fury wrote: »
    Calm_Fury wrote: »
    People will say that there are other programs on PC that do that, but don't be fooled. The experience is NOT the same.

    It is the only thing I truly miss from consoles.

    Discord is not even close to being the same thing, specially when you do PUG dungeons, trials or just want to laugh at the crazy people in Daggerfall voice chat.

    The social experience is just very different on PC due to that (for the worse, in my opinion).

    If such a thing existed on PC, I would turn it off immediately. :smile:

    To each its own. It is just different when you are starting on ESO on console and have that on by default.

    I enjoyed it and made great friends by just talking to people in PUG dungeons.

    Yep I miss being about to join cyrodil groups and be able to talk without typing. Now if I join random groups I need to hide before typing to ensure I don’t die. I think sometimes players dramatize things they don’t understand or have experiences just for arguments sake.

    I’ve experience way more toxic chatter in chat box then I ever did in voice chat.
  • PizzaCat82
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    The best times I've had grouping in ESO was when complete strangers would help the group by calling out mechanics in DLC dungeons or pvp strategies in Cyro.

    You can do the same in text chat but its definitely better to have voice chat.

    I'm definitely in support of it for PC players.
  • Calm_Fury
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    Calm_Fury wrote: »
    Calm_Fury wrote: »
    People will say that there are other programs on PC that do that, but don't be fooled. The experience is NOT the same.

    It is the only thing I truly miss from consoles.

    Discord is not even close to being the same thing, specially when you do PUG dungeons, trials or just want to laugh at the crazy people in Daggerfall voice chat.

    The social experience is just very different on PC due to that (for the worse, in my opinion).

    If such a thing existed on PC, I would turn it off immediately. :smile:

    To each its own. It is just different when you are starting on ESO on console and have that on by default.

    I enjoyed it and made great friends by just talking to people in PUG dungeons.

    Yep I miss being about to join cyrodil groups and be able to talk without typing. Now if I join random groups I need to hide before typing to ensure I don’t die. I think sometimes players dramatize things they don’t understand or have experiences just for arguments sake.

    I’ve experience way more toxic chatter in chat box then I ever did in voice chat.

    Exactly. Lots of people dismiss it without even knowing how it was.

    I played on console for 3 years. The "kids blasting rap music" episodes were extremely rare.

    Most PUG voice chat experiences were amazing. As I said, I made friends in 2015 that I'm still in contact with today just because we both had voice chat on doing random dungeons.

    Again, it is the only thing I miss from consoles, but I miss it A LOT...
  • danno8
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    It is the major thing lacking in ESO on PC, imo. I could barely believe it when I started playing ESO after the in-game voice that LOTRO had.

    People don't understand what optional voice chat brings to a game. I loved it in LotRO. Join a group and you can immediately listen to your group leader and respond as well without having to mess around with starting discord, or teamspeak, getting a password, etc..

    People think it would be on all the time and they would hear the whole world chatting, like on consoles, but that's not the way it would have to work.
  • Welkynar
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    I really love the voice chat. I really want cross save so I can play on PC, but voice chat would probably be the main reason for me to still play on console. It's something you have to experience to really enjoy. I remember Vulkhel Guard always having a bunch of people hanging out and sometimes trash talking each other. Probably still the same now.
    Edited by Welkynar on January 31, 2021 1:09AM
  • Calm_Fury
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    danno8 wrote: »
    It is the major thing lacking in ESO on PC, imo. I could barely believe it when I started playing ESO after the in-game voice that LOTRO had.

    People don't understand what optional voice chat brings to a game. I loved it in LotRO. Join a group and you can immediately listen to your group leader and respond as well without having to mess around with starting discord, or teamspeak, getting a password, etc..

    People think it would be on all the time and they would hear the whole world chatting, like on consoles, but that's not the way it would have to work.

    Yes. And they think 100% of the time it is bad.

    In reality is was 1-2% bad experiences, 98-99% great experiences. Zone chat could be annoying but it was easy to turn off.

    Dungeon chat was great a lot of the times.

    As I said before, I made friends in dungeons, PvP, Craglorn trials just because of that. Discord is just not the same thing for PC.
  • UGotBenched91
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    I’m glad to see some players that have actually experienced voice chat in console and can appreciate what it was and the friends and memories it brought I think a lot of hate for it is just people jumping on the band wagon of how it would be horrible without actually experiencing it.
  • LtClungeX
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    It's because there are already a MULTITUDE of voice chat programs that run on PC so adding voice to the game was simply a matter of why reinvent the wheel. Discord exists, Ventrilo exists, zoom exists, there are tonnes of them.

    But you have to already have them on discord to talk, I'm talking about making friends, I've made friends with randoms I've just passed my or that I've challenged to a 1v1 before, area chat is great, I watched a guy walking to the undauted enclave and he just stopped, I dint think mush of it untill he started snoring, next thing you know there's about 15 of us in area chat shouting to try and wake him up, until he disconnected due to inactivity, also cross faction banter you may get some ep roelplayers standing in Grahtwood giving AD somewhat friendly abuse over area chat, thing is you don't know what you're missing unless you've had it.
  • LtClungeX
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    Danikat wrote: »
    Personally I'm glad the game doesn't have voice chat built in.

    I'm often in a nosiy room when playing, to the point where I usually have the sound off so I'm not adding to it, so my chances of hearing what's being said even with headphones on are pretty low. I also can't really talk without having to constantly explain that I'm talking to someone on the computer and not anyone in real life. It's just much easier to use text chat than deal with all of that all the time.

    But also my understanding is you can only be in one voice channel at a time, so I'd have to choose one of my guilds to talk to and ignore the other and miss zone chat as well. Admittedly a lot of the time I largely ignore zone chat because it's random useless chatter, guild spam and trade spam, but every so often there's an interesting conversation going or someone asks a question I can help with and I wouldn't want to miss that just because I have to pick only 1 channel to be in at a time.

    you can just turn it off why say no to a feature just because?
  • LtClungeX
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    Not for me, only as optional. Definitely kills any immersion in the game in pve. For dungeons possibly but makes it that much easier for salty comments to go unmonitored.

    on console it is optional its just like switching from group chat to guild to zone. why would your cut your nose off to spite your face?
  • LtClungeX
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    Jierdanit wrote: »
    Calm_Fury wrote: »
    People will say that there are other programs on PC that do that, but don't be fooled. The experience is NOT the same.

    It is the only thing I truly miss from consoles.

    Discord is not even close to being the same thing, specially when you do PUG dungeons, trials or just want to laugh at the crazy people in Daggerfall voice chat.

    The social experience is just very different on PC due to that (for the worse, in my opinion).

    If such a thing existed on PC, I would turn it off immediately. :smile:

    Agreed.

    Im really not into voicechat at all. Especially not with random ppl in something like a PuG dungeon.

    Well actually this is one of the main reasons to have voice chat.

    Example, you're with a random who can't tank or heal or maybe they just keep standing in the red,
    you have to opportunity with voice chat to talk them through it, rather than having to wipe and then text chat them, I'm sure you've had this experience, what if they aggro the boss while you're typing to them?
    Ugh another wipe, now you're really frustrated, so you aren't as pleasant as you normally are, now the noob is also having a bad time, we want to encourage new players to keep the game growing don't we?

    Just because you PC player are use to this way it dosn't mean its the best way, you're logic is somwhat backwards, talking from experience here area chat is good, yes sometimes someone its playing terrible loud music and its hurts your ears, on console this is a feature you can turn off.

    On console we also used party chat, via the playstation party system, this is like discord voice chat, we found uses for both, thus meaning area chat IS useful.

    Even if the older PC community doesn't want it maybe the newer PC community will appreciate it.
  • LtClungeX
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    Uvi_AUT wrote: »
    LtClungeX wrote: »
    After coming from ps4 it seems really backward that there's no voice chat, honestly voice chat makes the game more than 2x more social, having to type to say push left or pull back in pvp or correcting somone making a mistake in PVE means you have to stop what you're doing to communicate, even thzn they have to take their focus off the game to read it I know there is discord but when playing with randoms it kinda sucks

    Because no one uses the Ingame-Voicechats in PCgames. We already have Teamspeak and Discord.

    Does teamspeak allow you to chat to a party of Randoms for example when you get added when you say LFG in pvp?

    Because when I was a total noob in 2015 on the ps that's where I met a bulk of my eso friend via actually speaking, some people are funny and witty you don't get that totally with text chat and if someone has made you laugh and brightened your day you may be inclined to add them as a friend, as opposed to just leaving which i notice happens alot in pvp Pc

    another thing in a duel, I was consistently beating a guy because he wasn't keeping his heals, up so I just slapped my mic on, I said "mate you need to heal more" but he didn't, so every time he let his vigor down I said heal, he became a great pvper his name was kickassbuttons ps4 EU and I'm sure there's people on this forum who know him and would agree he was a great pvper. I don't take full credit for this, but I set him on the right path, in the early stages.
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    because PC is less toxic, believe it or not
    Awake, but at what cost
  • etchedpixels
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    I would certainly have preferred voice chat with people I am grouped with but I'd probably want to turn it off for anything else. Mind you much of the time I'd prefer that the non group areas of the game had a "make everyone else vanish" button too 8)

    Discord is fine for guild runs but for random stuff it's completely unworkable.
    Too many toons not enough time
  • mikemacon
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    I play on both PC and Xbox.

    The baked-in social features of console are one of the reasons that I vastly prefer the ESO experience on my Xbox vs. my PC.
  • ZaroktheImmortal
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    Most people just use discord for team chat or whatever they never put it in the game.
  • finehair
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  • dan958
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    I wouldn't mind it if it was only available to groups, but not for overland - no way.

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  • henrycupcakerwb17_ESO
    Because we already have TeamSpeak, Ventrilo, Discord, Skype, Steam Voice, Mumble, Raidcall, etc. Take your pick.

    I prefer. FaceTime audio / element messenger
  • Xerge
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    PC games need to start integrating a better social experience. ESO on the PC sucks for socializing. Can't argue it.
  • Jierdanit
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    LtClungeX wrote: »
    Jierdanit wrote: »
    Calm_Fury wrote: »
    People will say that there are other programs on PC that do that, but don't be fooled. The experience is NOT the same.

    It is the only thing I truly miss from consoles.

    Discord is not even close to being the same thing, specially when you do PUG dungeons, trials or just want to laugh at the crazy people in Daggerfall voice chat.

    The social experience is just very different on PC due to that (for the worse, in my opinion).

    If such a thing existed on PC, I would turn it off immediately. :smile:

    Agreed.

    Im really not into voicechat at all. Especially not with random ppl in something like a PuG dungeon.

    Well actually this is one of the main reasons to have voice chat.

    Example, you're with a random who can't tank or heal or maybe they just keep standing in the red,
    you have to opportunity with voice chat to talk them through it, rather than having to wipe and then text chat them, I'm sure you've had this experience, what if they aggro the boss while you're typing to them?
    Ugh another wipe, now you're really frustrated, so you aren't as pleasant as you normally are, now the noob is also having a bad time, we want to encourage new players to keep the game growing don't we?

    Just because you PC player are use to this way it dosn't mean its the best way, you're logic is somwhat backwards, talking from experience here area chat is good, yes sometimes someone its playing terrible loud music and its hurts your ears, on console this is a feature you can turn off.

    On console we also used party chat, via the playstation party system, this is like discord voice chat, we found uses for both, thus meaning area chat IS useful.

    Even if the older PC community doesn't want it maybe the newer PC community will appreciate it.

    Its got nothing to do with any kind of logic.

    Im just not the voice chat kind of person and really dont like being on voicechat with others.

    I also used discord only twice for stuff in the game.
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  • LtClungeX
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    dan958 wrote: »
    I wouldn't mind it if it was only available to groups, but not for overland - no way.

    But you can turn it off once and then you wont even realise it's there, that's how it work on playstation
    Edited by LtClungeX on February 1, 2021 7:53PM
  • LtClungeX
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    Jierdanit wrote: »
    LtClungeX wrote: »
    Jierdanit wrote: »
    Calm_Fury wrote: »
    People will say that there are other programs on PC that do that, but don't be fooled. The experience is NOT the same.

    It is the only thing I truly miss from consoles.

    Discord is not even close to being the same thing, specially when you do PUG dungeons, trials or just want to laugh at the crazy people in Daggerfall voice chat.

    The social experience is just very different on PC due to that (for the worse, in my opinion).

    If such a thing existed on PC, I would turn it off immediately. :smile:

    Agreed.

    Im really not into voicechat at all. Especially not with random ppl in something like a PuG dungeon.

    Well actually this is one of the main reasons to have voice chat.

    Example, you're with a random who can't tank or heal or maybe they just keep standing in the red,
    you have to opportunity with voice chat to talk them through it, rather than having to wipe and then text chat them, I'm sure you've had this experience, what if they aggro the boss while you're typing to them?
    Ugh another wipe, now you're really frustrated, so you aren't as pleasant as you normally are, now the noob is also having a bad time, we want to encourage new players to keep the game growing don't we?

    Just because you PC player are use to this way it dosn't mean its the best way, you're logic is somwhat backwards, talking from experience here area chat is good, yes sometimes someone its playing terrible loud music and its hurts your ears, on console this is a feature you can turn off.

    On console we also used party chat, via the playstation party system, this is like discord voice chat, we found uses for both, thus meaning area chat IS useful.

    Even if the older PC community doesn't want it maybe the newer PC community will appreciate it.

    Its got nothing to do with any kind of logic.

    Im just not the voice chat kind of person and really dont like being on voicechat with others.

    I also used discord only twice for stuff in the game.

    That's okay mate but others may like it and it seems obvious that others do and you can just turn it off so this will effect no one that doesn't want it but makes everyone that does does want it happy so it's a win win right?
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