Tsar_Gekkou wrote: »JamieAubrey wrote: »Aye cause what I need is 12 year olds playing their crap rap music through the headset as I run past them
Who actually goes into zone chat to hear that? I've never had that problem because I don't force that on myself. I just use voice for trials and sometimes dungeons if the randoms aren't up to speed.
So most of the time you have voice chat off and don't get to talk to other people at all? I thought the premise here was that built-in voice chat makes the game more sociable, but if it's off unless you're in a small group then I don't see how it's any different to using Discord on PC.
Ghanima_Atreides wrote: »People will say that there are other programs on PC that do that, but don't be fooled. The experience is NOT the same.
It is the only thing I truly miss from consoles.
Discord is not even close to being the same thing, specially when you do PUG dungeons, trials or just want to laugh at the crazy people in Daggerfall voice chat.
The social experience is just very different on PC due to that (for the worse, in my opinion).
If such a thing existed on PC, I would turn it off immediately.
Ghanima_Atreides wrote: »People will say that there are other programs on PC that do that, but don't be fooled. The experience is NOT the same.
It is the only thing I truly miss from consoles.
Discord is not even close to being the same thing, specially when you do PUG dungeons, trials or just want to laugh at the crazy people in Daggerfall voice chat.
The social experience is just very different on PC due to that (for the worse, in my opinion).
If such a thing existed on PC, I would turn it off immediately.
Ghanima_Atreides wrote: »People will say that there are other programs on PC that do that, but don't be fooled. The experience is NOT the same.
It is the only thing I truly miss from consoles.
Discord is not even close to being the same thing, specially when you do PUG dungeons, trials or just want to laugh at the crazy people in Daggerfall voice chat.
The social experience is just very different on PC due to that (for the worse, in my opinion).
If such a thing existed on PC, I would turn it off immediately.
To each its own. It is just different when you are starting on ESO on console and have that on by default.
I enjoyed it and made great friends by just talking to people in PUG dungeons.
UGotBenched91 wrote: »Ghanima_Atreides wrote: »People will say that there are other programs on PC that do that, but don't be fooled. The experience is NOT the same.
It is the only thing I truly miss from consoles.
Discord is not even close to being the same thing, specially when you do PUG dungeons, trials or just want to laugh at the crazy people in Daggerfall voice chat.
The social experience is just very different on PC due to that (for the worse, in my opinion).
If such a thing existed on PC, I would turn it off immediately.
To each its own. It is just different when you are starting on ESO on console and have that on by default.
I enjoyed it and made great friends by just talking to people in PUG dungeons.
Yep I miss being about to join cyrodil groups and be able to talk without typing. Now if I join random groups I need to hide before typing to ensure I don’t die. I think sometimes players dramatize things they don’t understand or have experiences just for arguments sake.
I’ve experience way more toxic chatter in chat box then I ever did in voice chat.
Cloudtrader wrote: »It is the major thing lacking in ESO on PC, imo. I could barely believe it when I started playing ESO after the in-game voice that LOTRO had.
Cloudtrader wrote: »It is the major thing lacking in ESO on PC, imo. I could barely believe it when I started playing ESO after the in-game voice that LOTRO had.
People don't understand what optional voice chat brings to a game. I loved it in LotRO. Join a group and you can immediately listen to your group leader and respond as well without having to mess around with starting discord, or teamspeak, getting a password, etc..
People think it would be on all the time and they would hear the whole world chatting, like on consoles, but that's not the way it would have to work.
SteveCampsOut wrote: »It's because there are already a MULTITUDE of voice chat programs that run on PC so adding voice to the game was simply a matter of why reinvent the wheel. Discord exists, Ventrilo exists, zoom exists, there are tonnes of them.
Personally I'm glad the game doesn't have voice chat built in.
I'm often in a nosiy room when playing, to the point where I usually have the sound off so I'm not adding to it, so my chances of hearing what's being said even with headphones on are pretty low. I also can't really talk without having to constantly explain that I'm talking to someone on the computer and not anyone in real life. It's just much easier to use text chat than deal with all of that all the time.
But also my understanding is you can only be in one voice channel at a time, so I'd have to choose one of my guilds to talk to and ignore the other and miss zone chat as well. Admittedly a lot of the time I largely ignore zone chat because it's random useless chatter, guild spam and trade spam, but every so often there's an interesting conversation going or someone asks a question I can help with and I wouldn't want to miss that just because I have to pick only 1 channel to be in at a time.
TheImperfect wrote: »Not for me, only as optional. Definitely kills any immersion in the game in pve. For dungeons possibly but makes it that much easier for salty comments to go unmonitored.
Ghanima_Atreides wrote: »People will say that there are other programs on PC that do that, but don't be fooled. The experience is NOT the same.
It is the only thing I truly miss from consoles.
Discord is not even close to being the same thing, specially when you do PUG dungeons, trials or just want to laugh at the crazy people in Daggerfall voice chat.
The social experience is just very different on PC due to that (for the worse, in my opinion).
If such a thing existed on PC, I would turn it off immediately.
Agreed.
Im really not into voicechat at all. Especially not with random ppl in something like a PuG dungeon.
After coming from ps4 it seems really backward that there's no voice chat, honestly voice chat makes the game more than 2x more social, having to type to say push left or pull back in pvp or correcting somone making a mistake in PVE means you have to stop what you're doing to communicate, even thzn they have to take their focus off the game to read it I know there is discord but when playing with randoms it kinda sucks
Because no one uses the Ingame-Voicechats in PCgames. We already have Teamspeak and Discord.
Goregrinder wrote: »Because we already have TeamSpeak, Ventrilo, Discord, Skype, Steam Voice, Mumble, Raidcall, etc. Take your pick.
Ghanima_Atreides wrote: »People will say that there are other programs on PC that do that, but don't be fooled. The experience is NOT the same.
It is the only thing I truly miss from consoles.
Discord is not even close to being the same thing, specially when you do PUG dungeons, trials or just want to laugh at the crazy people in Daggerfall voice chat.
The social experience is just very different on PC due to that (for the worse, in my opinion).
If such a thing existed on PC, I would turn it off immediately.
Agreed.
Im really not into voicechat at all. Especially not with random ppl in something like a PuG dungeon.
Well actually this is one of the main reasons to have voice chat.
Example, you're with a random who can't tank or heal or maybe they just keep standing in the red,
you have to opportunity with voice chat to talk them through it, rather than having to wipe and then text chat them, I'm sure you've had this experience, what if they aggro the boss while you're typing to them?
Ugh another wipe, now you're really frustrated, so you aren't as pleasant as you normally are, now the noob is also having a bad time, we want to encourage new players to keep the game growing don't we?
Just because you PC player are use to this way it dosn't mean its the best way, you're logic is somwhat backwards, talking from experience here area chat is good, yes sometimes someone its playing terrible loud music and its hurts your ears, on console this is a feature you can turn off.
On console we also used party chat, via the playstation party system, this is like discord voice chat, we found uses for both, thus meaning area chat IS useful.
Even if the older PC community doesn't want it maybe the newer PC community will appreciate it.
Ghanima_Atreides wrote: »People will say that there are other programs on PC that do that, but don't be fooled. The experience is NOT the same.
It is the only thing I truly miss from consoles.
Discord is not even close to being the same thing, specially when you do PUG dungeons, trials or just want to laugh at the crazy people in Daggerfall voice chat.
The social experience is just very different on PC due to that (for the worse, in my opinion).
If such a thing existed on PC, I would turn it off immediately.
Agreed.
Im really not into voicechat at all. Especially not with random ppl in something like a PuG dungeon.
Well actually this is one of the main reasons to have voice chat.
Example, you're with a random who can't tank or heal or maybe they just keep standing in the red,
you have to opportunity with voice chat to talk them through it, rather than having to wipe and then text chat them, I'm sure you've had this experience, what if they aggro the boss while you're typing to them?
Ugh another wipe, now you're really frustrated, so you aren't as pleasant as you normally are, now the noob is also having a bad time, we want to encourage new players to keep the game growing don't we?
Just because you PC player are use to this way it dosn't mean its the best way, you're logic is somwhat backwards, talking from experience here area chat is good, yes sometimes someone its playing terrible loud music and its hurts your ears, on console this is a feature you can turn off.
On console we also used party chat, via the playstation party system, this is like discord voice chat, we found uses for both, thus meaning area chat IS useful.
Even if the older PC community doesn't want it maybe the newer PC community will appreciate it.
Its got nothing to do with any kind of logic.
Im just not the voice chat kind of person and really dont like being on voicechat with others.
I also used discord only twice for stuff in the game.