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Why no voice chat on eso PC
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itscompton✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ghanima_Atreides wrote: »People will say that there are other programs on PC that do that, but don't be fooled. The experience is NOT the same.
It is the only thing I truly miss from consoles.
Discord is not even close to being the same thing, specially when you do PUG dungeons, trials or just want to laugh at the crazy people in Daggerfall voice chat.
The social experience is just very different on PC due to that (for the worse, in my opinion).
If such a thing existed on PC, I would turn it off immediately.
Ahh but there's the rub. You'd have the option to turn it off if you liked. So it shouldn't bother you if other would use it.2 -
LtClungeX✭✭✭Integral1900 wrote: »Voice chat... good grief, what a horrific idea.... ☹️
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itscompton✭✭✭✭✭
✭mayasunrising wrote: »Ghanima_Atreides wrote: »People will say that there are other programs on PC that do that, but don't be fooled. The experience is NOT the same.
It is the only thing I truly miss from consoles.
Discord is not even close to being the same thing, specially when you do PUG dungeons, trials or just want to laugh at the crazy people in Daggerfall voice chat.
The social experience is just very different on PC due to that (for the worse, in my opinion).
If such a thing existed on PC, I would turn it off immediately.
Same! the toxicity is bad enough in text chat. I'd hate to think of what cyro chat especially would be like if they had voice.
No one really listens to area chat for the most part, it's usually full of idiots playing bad music. But being able to easily communicate with people in your group is awesome whether in a Vet DLC dungeon, trail or PvP.1 -
LtClungeX✭✭✭SeekerAssassin wrote: »don't worry nobody uses voice chat on Ps4 anyway so your not missing much
Well having come from there PS and after playing pc and nearly instantly realising it wasn't there and that I missed it and that others in the same boat as me are agreeing with me, I'm afraid that I dissagree with this comment0 -
LtClungeX✭✭✭
Then you'll split up the communication channels, and have people trying to talk to you even though you have it disabled. Best everyone just text types, much better for an mmo.
Dude it works fine on the PlayStation, they have a very well thought out system, you're trying to poke holes in it, but there's literally no downsides1 -
that's fine if you disagree my point still stands 75%-90% of ppl on Ps4 don't even use it. would probably be worse on pc because of the other options.2 -
Minyassa✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭After coming back to this thread and reading comments I have to clarify that my earlier comment about being horrified at the very idea of having to randomly hear strangers is by no means a statement that I think they shouldn't put it in. I like for other people to have things they like even if I don't, as long as it's not forced on me, and I am very sure I could just turn it off. I was just shocked that anyone would actually want it. I'm also shocked when I see people deliberately eating canned peas.7 -
kringled_1✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I can understand the arguments in favor, but my experience in other pc games with built-in voice chat, the majority of people I've played with favored external software for one or more of these reasons (plus maybe more I couldn't think of):
1. Control over who's in the voice chat. You can choose to invite the pug in your dungeon to your discord, or not.
2. Consistent audio settings across multiple games, such as volume, push to talk/voice activation, mic sensitivity. I understand that this isn't an issue console side but it is for PC.
3. Lobby games frequently you only have voice at selected times, not full time, even if you have a full pre-made.
4. Strange implementations, like gtao voice for open world lobbies being open to the full 30 people there, or the built in apb voice that would let the opposing team hear your voice if your characters were physically close in game.
As a result I think in game voice would not be adopted by many players and would end up as a poor use of their resources.Edited by kringled_1 on February 1, 2021 9:08PM3 -
LtClungeX✭✭✭There are some points that have been made, that you'd have to choose a channel and ignore others etc yes but only with voice chat,
you still get to see ALL the text chat options you would do normally, so on console it works exactly the same for text as on pc, I think there's a misunderstanding of how it works hence the negetive comments.
So in rando pvp or rando dungeons you can tune in to see if they're talking, if not no big deal!
Or tune in to guild chat but no matter where you're tuned in to you still get the text chat from all other sources like normal for Pc
Also thers some instances where we're in voixe chat but some cannotnor does not want to go on voice chat thisnis okay we still have it excatly the same so they can still communicate.
This feature 100% enhances both the pvp and pve experience with randoms. If you don't like who you're talking to just switch it off no biggy is it?
Like I've said before there wasn't a downside to this, it takes nothing away but optionally, it gives you and if not you others more.
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LtClungeX✭✭✭kringled_1 wrote: »I can understand the arguments in favor, but my experience in other pc games with built-in voice chat, the majority of people I've played with favored external software for one or more of these reasons (plus maybe more I couldn't think of):
1. Control over who's in the voice chat. You can choose to invite the pug in your dungeon to your discord, or not.
2. Consistent audio settings across multiple games, such as volume, push to talk/voice activation, mic sensitivity. I understand that this isn't an issue console side but it is for PC.
3. Lobby games frequently you only have voice at selected times, not full time, even if you have a full pre-made.
4. Strange implementations, like gtao voice for open world lobbies being open to the full 30 people there, or the built in apb voice that would let the opposing team hear your voice if your characters were physically challenged lose in game.
As a result I think in game voice would not be adopted by many players and would end up as a poor use of their resources.
I know what you're saying, our guild used the PlayStation party chat in the same way you use discord, the sound quality was better with audio sliders etc, but this is a great feature for noobs who haven't made friends yet to even get an invite, for people who while in an active guild are on at a time when their guild mates aren't online, it's a great way to recruit to your guild, it's a great way for you to communicate with someone that you may not of invited to your guild untill you realised that by chance just like in real life that you've met a decent person. Just trust me it makes eso feel toally barren in comparison.0 -
LtClungeX✭✭✭After coming back to this thread and reading comments I have to clarify that my earlier comment about being horrified at the very idea of having to randomly hear strangers is by no means a statement that I think they shouldn't put it in. I like for other people to have things they like even if I don't, as long as it's not forced on me, and I am very sure I could just turn it off. I was just shocked that anyone would actually want it. I'm also shocked when I see people deliberately eating canned peas.
Uggh canned peas haha0 -
LtClungeX✭✭✭SeekerAssassin wrote: »that's fine if you disagree my point still stands 75%-90% of ppl on Ps4 don't even use it. would probably be worse on pc because of the other options.
Well maybe you're in an esablished guild with friends you've known for years so 75-90% of the people YOU play with don't use it.
Like I said previously my guild used ps party chat with the regs but I was a total no lifer on this game and when there was no one on, I actually made more friends that I then invited to our guild, after meeting them in a rando dungeon etc.
I'm a social person, I made a freind for life in this game from Germany I sent him English food he'd never tried before, he was coming to England last year to meet me then Covid happend, I met him through Eso's voice chat he now plays with me on pc. A lovely stoey isn't it0 -
Dr_Ganknstein✭✭✭✭✭
✭People who haven't experienced it won't understand. On console you have the option to turn it off or mute individual players but I loved having it there as an option. With outside apps you have to download it and then need an invite blah blah. On console you accept group invite and get to actually speak to new players. I've met a few players that seemed to hate me while we spoke via text (because I ganked them) but became friends after speaking. It felt strange at first running through Riften and bit hearing people. Its an awesome option specially for PUGs.0 -
LtClungeX✭✭✭UGotBenched91 wrote: »
Agree I've actually experienced this now, never mind once I've fully leveled we will see haha2 -
Dark_Lord_Kuro✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭TheImperfect wrote: »Not for me, only as optional. Definitely kills any immersion in the game in pve. For dungeons possibly but makes it that much easier for salty comments to go unmonitored.
Well it is optional, you need to open the chanel to hear anyting1 -
Dark_Lord_Kuro✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Ghanima_Atreides wrote: »People will say that there are other programs on PC that do that, but don't be fooled. The experience is NOT the same.
It is the only thing I truly miss from consoles.
Discord is not even close to being the same thing, specially when you do PUG dungeons, trials or just want to laugh at the crazy people in Daggerfall voice chat.
The social experience is just very different on PC due to that (for the worse, in my opinion).
If such a thing existed on PC, I would turn it off immediately.
same. I don't play ESO on ps4, but I play other things and my chat is permanently disabled. its one of the first things I disable in settings, followed by enabling subtitles, etc.
if I want to go into voice chat, I'd rather use a separate program and join chat by choice, not by default. the experience IS different and IMO, I would rather take easy text chat over not having any and being stuck with voice only.
It is optional you need to join the chat manualy by selecting wich one you want
None
Area/zone
Group
Guild a 1/2/3/4
Guild b 1/2/3/4
Guild c 1/2/3/4
Guild d 1/2/3/4
Guild e 1/2/3/4
Nobody is forced into a chat3 -
danno8✭✭✭✭✭
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Then you'll split up the communication channels, and have people trying to talk to you even though you have it disabled. Best everyone just text types, much better for an mmo.
In LotRO when you group up there is a little icon next to your portrait or frame that shows if you have voice turned on or not. Everyone has it turned on so they can listen to the leader, but have "push to talk" turned on so they can only be heard if they need to say something important.
Honestly never had an issue using it. It's far more convenient than third party apps since everyone in your group is on the same page automatically.
Third party stuff is great for Guilds, or friends but for quick pug groups in-game group voice chat is quick, simple and effective.
And it's optional. Honestly some of the arguments against it in this thread are completely bizzare.
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nukk3r✭✭✭✭✭
✭TIL that console players tend to be more sociable and careless than PC players. I don't understand how would someone want to deliberately speak to strangers. Text is enough.5 -
wheresbes✭✭✭✭So far, I've only experienced once a group of funny, talkative players.
It's usually just:
- Questionable music
- Whatsapp notifications
- Eating sounds (and the following appreciative burp)
- A child nagging constantly in Blaekrock at 12 am
- A player with a sick child nearby that kept coughing like there's no tomorrow (hopefully they're fine now, but I had to leave the dungeon because I couldn't stand it - and didn't know how to mute them)
So.. no, thank you.4 -
ixmike✭✭✭Wow. As someone who doesn't play PC, I didn't know that. That's weird.
Listening to random weirdos, dance parties, and people having conversations with their stock broker in Ebon Crypt is all part of the fun.
If I didn't want that aspect of the community, I'd stick to playing Skyrim.
Edited by ixmike on February 4, 2021 2:50PMXbox NA, DC NB.Gamertag: swampfoxix3 -
LtClungeX✭✭✭So far, I've only experienced once a group of funny, talkative players.
It's usually just:
- Questionable music
- Whatsapp notifications
- Eating sounds (and the following appreciative burp)
- A child nagging constantly in Blaekrock at 12 am
- A player with a sick child nearby that kept coughing like there's no tomorrow (hopefully they're fine now, but I had to leave the dungeon because I couldn't stand it - and didn't know how to mute them)
So.. no, thank you.
so you can't stand it because you don't know how to turn it off, the problem lies with you there bud!
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danno8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭So far, I've only experienced once a group of funny, talkative players.
It's usually just:
- Questionable music
- Whatsapp notifications
- Eating sounds (and the following appreciative burp)
- A child nagging constantly in Blaekrock at 12 am
- A player with a sick child nearby that kept coughing like there's no tomorrow (hopefully they're fine now, but I had to leave the dungeon because I couldn't stand it - and didn't know how to mute them)
So.. no, thank you.
so you can't stand it because you don't know how to turn it off, the problem lies with you there bud!
People aren't getting it, lol.
It's like asking for shows to have descriptive video service and having a bunch of people saying "I don't want to hear voice over while I'm watching a movie, no thanks!!".
Yah, well don't turn it on then? Like I said earlier, peoples responses are bizarre.4 -
LtClungeX✭✭✭So far, I've only experienced once a group of funny, talkative players.
It's usually just:
- Questionable music
- Whatsapp notifications
- Eating sounds (and the following appreciative burp)
- A child nagging constantly in Blaekrock at 12 am
- A player with a sick child nearby that kept coughing like there's no tomorrow (hopefully they're fine now, but I had to leave the dungeon because I couldn't stand it - and didn't know how to mute them)
So.. no, thank you.
so you can't stand it because you don't know how to turn it off, the problem lies with you there bud!
People aren't getting it, lol.
It's like asking for shows to have descriptive video service and having a bunch of people saying "I don't want to hear voice over while I'm watching a movie, no thanks!!".
Yah, well don't turn it on then? Like I said earlier, peoples responses are bizarre.
yeah mate I'm totally dumb founded1 -
devaneiosonho✭✭✭What's the point of adding something just so people can turn it off? If you want to talk to someone, use one the hundreds of available softwares. We're doing fine without separating the type of communication. There's already a bunch of people demanding the use of discord, so yeah, we don't need any more pain in the ass.Edited by devaneiosonho on February 4, 2021 8:41PM5 -
LtClungeX✭✭✭devaneiosonho wrote: »What's the point of adding something just so people can turn it off? If you want to talk to someone, use one the hundreds of available softwares. We're doing fine without separating the type of communication. There's already a bunch of people demanding the use of discord, so yeah, we don't need any more pain in the ass.
ahhh jeebers, because some people obviously want it. Have you read the thread?
the counter argument is that they don't want to hear other people for XYZ reasons, the counter to that argument is you can turn it off.
what are people not getting?
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[Minor edit for Baiting.]Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on February 5, 2021 4:37AM3
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