PVE players need to stop demanding MYM caters to them.

PizzaCat82 · February 2021

renne wrote: »

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

renne wrote: »

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

renne wrote: »

Also you guys know you don't have to do the event, right? They massively reduced the ticket requirements for the pet and the morph, from 4 pieces to 3 and for the base pet from 10 tickets to 5. If you don't like going into PvP areas because there are, god forbid, PvPers there, you LITERALLY do not have to.

If you choose to go into PvP areas, then you've made the active choice to do it. Turning around and making thread after thread about how terrible it is that you've been killed by a PvPer doing PvP in a PvP zone...? It's like going into a trial solo and complaining you can't solo the trash, much less the boss.

Why don't tickets drop from players? Why don't style pages drop from players?

Why is the easiest way to get tickets in this event also the most likely to get you attacked by gankers?

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

renne wrote: »

Also you guys know you don't have to do the event, right? They massively reduced the ticket requirements for the pet and the morph, from 4 pieces to 3 and for the base pet from 10 tickets to 5. If you don't like going into PvP areas because there are, god forbid, PvPers there, you LITERALLY do not have to.

If you choose to go into PvP areas, then you've made the active choice to do it. Turning around and making thread after thread about how terrible it is that you've been killed by a PvPer doing PvP in a PvP zone...? It's like going into a trial solo and complaining you can't solo the trash, much less the boss.

Why don't tickets drop from players? Why don't style pages drop from players?

Why is the easiest way to get tickets in this event also the most likely to get you attacked by gankers?

Also scouting missions and camping the Arena spawn point are the easiest way and actually the LEAST likely to get you attacked by gankers, because the scouting missions are all over the map and depend on the state of the map at the time, and camping the Arena spawn point you literally cannot be attacked.

Scouting missions? Ha. Traveling near across Cyro without rapids.. yeah easiest, sure.

Yes, because "easiest" doesn't mean "fastest".

The fact of the matter is that its supposed to be a PVP event. Why aren't BGs included? Why is it only quests? Why are there so many PVE quests in the PVP zones to begin with?

Its poor design that absolutely causing players to not be focused on PVP in a PVP zone.

zvavi · February 2021

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

renne wrote: »

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

renne wrote: »

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

renne wrote: »

Also you guys know you don't have to do the event, right? They massively reduced the ticket requirements for the pet and the morph, from 4 pieces to 3 and for the base pet from 10 tickets to 5. If you don't like going into PvP areas because there are, god forbid, PvPers there, you LITERALLY do not have to.

If you choose to go into PvP areas, then you've made the active choice to do it. Turning around and making thread after thread about how terrible it is that you've been killed by a PvPer doing PvP in a PvP zone...? It's like going into a trial solo and complaining you can't solo the trash, much less the boss.

Why don't tickets drop from players? Why don't style pages drop from players?

Why is the easiest way to get tickets in this event also the most likely to get you attacked by gankers?

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

renne wrote: »

Also you guys know you don't have to do the event, right? They massively reduced the ticket requirements for the pet and the morph, from 4 pieces to 3 and for the base pet from 10 tickets to 5. If you don't like going into PvP areas because there are, god forbid, PvPers there, you LITERALLY do not have to.

If you choose to go into PvP areas, then you've made the active choice to do it. Turning around and making thread after thread about how terrible it is that you've been killed by a PvPer doing PvP in a PvP zone...? It's like going into a trial solo and complaining you can't solo the trash, much less the boss.

Why don't tickets drop from players? Why don't style pages drop from players?

Why is the easiest way to get tickets in this event also the most likely to get you attacked by gankers?

Also scouting missions and camping the Arena spawn point are the easiest way and actually the LEAST likely to get you attacked by gankers, because the scouting missions are all over the map and depend on the state of the map at the time, and camping the Arena spawn point you literally cannot be attacked.

Scouting missions? Ha. Traveling near across Cyro without rapids.. yeah easiest, sure.

Yes, because "easiest" doesn't mean "fastest".

The fact of the matter is that its supposed to be a PVP event. Why aren't BGs included? Why is it only quests? Why are there so many PVE quests in the PVP zones to begin with?

Its poor design that absolutely causing players to not be focused on PVP in a PVP zone.

Bg's are included. 4 of my tickets are from the 1000 medals quest.

PizzaCat82 · February 2021

zvavi wrote: »

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

renne wrote: »

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

renne wrote: »

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

renne wrote: »

Also you guys know you don't have to do the event, right? They massively reduced the ticket requirements for the pet and the morph, from 4 pieces to 3 and for the base pet from 10 tickets to 5. If you don't like going into PvP areas because there are, god forbid, PvPers there, you LITERALLY do not have to.

If you choose to go into PvP areas, then you've made the active choice to do it. Turning around and making thread after thread about how terrible it is that you've been killed by a PvPer doing PvP in a PvP zone...? It's like going into a trial solo and complaining you can't solo the trash, much less the boss.

Why don't tickets drop from players? Why don't style pages drop from players?

Why is the easiest way to get tickets in this event also the most likely to get you attacked by gankers?

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

renne wrote: »

Also you guys know you don't have to do the event, right? They massively reduced the ticket requirements for the pet and the morph, from 4 pieces to 3 and for the base pet from 10 tickets to 5. If you don't like going into PvP areas because there are, god forbid, PvPers there, you LITERALLY do not have to.

If you choose to go into PvP areas, then you've made the active choice to do it. Turning around and making thread after thread about how terrible it is that you've been killed by a PvPer doing PvP in a PvP zone...? It's like going into a trial solo and complaining you can't solo the trash, much less the boss.

Why don't tickets drop from players? Why don't style pages drop from players?

Why is the easiest way to get tickets in this event also the most likely to get you attacked by gankers?

Also scouting missions and camping the Arena spawn point are the easiest way and actually the LEAST likely to get you attacked by gankers, because the scouting missions are all over the map and depend on the state of the map at the time, and camping the Arena spawn point you literally cannot be attacked.

Scouting missions? Ha. Traveling near across Cyro without rapids.. yeah easiest, sure.

Yes, because "easiest" doesn't mean "fastest".

The fact of the matter is that its supposed to be a PVP event. Why aren't BGs included? Why is it only quests? Why are there so many PVE quests in the PVP zones to begin with?

Its poor design that absolutely causing players to not be focused on PVP in a PVP zone.

Bg's are included. 4 of my tickets are from the 1000 medals quest.

Thats good at least. I re-read the article and BGs are treated like Cyro... Still those quests are pretty dang hard compared to the ones in the towns.

I just think we'd have a lot less complaining if everyone in PVP was actually there to PVP and not to try to farm style pages or do town quests.

VaranisArano · February 2021

renne wrote: »

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

renne wrote: »

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

renne wrote: »

Also you guys know you don't have to do the event, right? They massively reduced the ticket requirements for the pet and the morph, from 4 pieces to 3 and for the base pet from 10 tickets to 5. If you don't like going into PvP areas because there are, god forbid, PvPers there, you LITERALLY do not have to.

If you choose to go into PvP areas, then you've made the active choice to do it. Turning around and making thread after thread about how terrible it is that you've been killed by a PvPer doing PvP in a PvP zone...? It's like going into a trial solo and complaining you can't solo the trash, much less the boss.

Why don't tickets drop from players? Why don't style pages drop from players?

Why is the easiest way to get tickets in this event also the most likely to get you attacked by gankers?

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

renne wrote: »

Also you guys know you don't have to do the event, right? They massively reduced the ticket requirements for the pet and the morph, from 4 pieces to 3 and for the base pet from 10 tickets to 5. If you don't like going into PvP areas because there are, god forbid, PvPers there, you LITERALLY do not have to.

If you choose to go into PvP areas, then you've made the active choice to do it. Turning around and making thread after thread about how terrible it is that you've been killed by a PvPer doing PvP in a PvP zone...? It's like going into a trial solo and complaining you can't solo the trash, much less the boss.

Why don't tickets drop from players? Why don't style pages drop from players?

Why is the easiest way to get tickets in this event also the most likely to get you attacked by gankers?

Also scouting missions and camping the Arena spawn point are the easiest way and actually the LEAST likely to get you attacked by gankers, because the scouting missions are all over the map and depend on the state of the map at the time, and camping the Arena spawn point you literally cannot be attacked.

Scouting missions? Ha. Traveling near across Cyro without rapids.. yeah easiest, sure.

Yes, because "easiest" doesn't mean "fastest".

For me, the "easiest" Cyrodiil daily is a toss up between scouting missions and town quests.

If my alliance owns a town with transit/rez points and there aren't enemy players around, town quests are super quick and easy because the threat is intended to come from enemy players. Without that, its easy least.

If we don't own a town or there are enemy players around, I'll do a scouting mission because by the time I ride down to Cheydinhal to quest, I might as well have started riding to my target Resource.

Side note:
Midyear Mayhem is a PVP-centric event featuring Battlegrounds and two PvPvE zones. The town quests aren't PVE, as some here say. They are pretty clearly PvPvE quests in a PvPvE zone, as enemy players can and do attack at any time, as ZOS intended.

While I love PVP and regard the risk of PVP as integral to Midyear Mayhem, I support players having the option to do easier PvPvE quests for event tickets. I would not favor limiting event tickets to the purely PVP-centric quests like "Kill 20 Enemy Players" or "Capture Castle Alessia." However, its clear that the whole event is PVP-centric with achievements like the title Star-Made Knight that require PVP, including 50 killing blows.

Players who want to avoid PVP can participate in Midyear Mayhem by seeking safer, easier PvPvE dailies for their rewards and event tickets. However, only players who fight in PVP battles will ever fully unlock the rewards and achievements of the event. That's a good thing!

Dark_Lord_Kuro · February 2021

Cyrodill
Town quest or scouting report in sneek

Imperial city
Not sure it the same for all faction but just stay on your spawning platform were other player cant attack but you can attact the mob for the quest

If not the elvengarden one only require you to interact with stuff

Its not that hard
And this is comming from a 99%pve player

PizzaCat82 · February 2021

PvP events should be for PVP only. Questers are most likely to get farmed by those looking for easy Tel Var or AP. These events don't encourage PVP.. they never needed to. They simply encourage targets for PVPers.

eso_lags · February 2021

ZaroktheImmortal wrote: »

PVPERS players need to stop complaining about pvers. ESO is a mainly a pve focused game. If you don't like them don't play.

im shocked you edited that comment

renne · February 2021

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

PvP events should be for PVP only. Questers are most likely to get farmed by those looking for easy Tel Var or AP. These events don't encourage PVP.. they never needed to. They simply encourage targets for PVPers.

You don't have to do the event if you don't like it. This literally goes for anyone with any event.

VaranisArano · February 2021

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

PvP events should be for PVP only. Questers are most likely to get farmed by those looking for easy Tel Var or AP. These events don't encourage PVP.. they never needed to. They simply encourage targets for PVPers.

See, I've got the opposite view. Cyrodiil is a PvPvE zone, so PvPvE quests should be an option for players to do for event rewards!

I mean, I'm a PVPer. If we adopted your suggestion, I'd be fine with my PVP-centric options like:
Kill 20 Wardens
Kill 20 Enemy Players
Capture Chalman Mine
Capture Castle Alessia
Recover the Elder Scroll of Altadoon
Capture 3 Towns
Capture 9 Resources
Kill 40 Enemy Players
Win 3 Battlegrounds matches
Earn 1000 medal points in Battlegrounds
Particpate in 5 Battlegrounds matches
and so on.

But that would be a disaster for players who prefer the easier, safer PvPvE options like the town quests. They'd be outright excluded from the event unless they decided to jump straight into full-on PVP Combat.

I understand the urge to "protect" those players who might be mistakenly lured into a PvPvE zone with the option of a PvPvE quest that's quick and easy right up until the second that someone ganks them because they "think" its a PVE quest. However, I disagree that the way to "protect" those players is by forcing them to go into full-on PVP combat fighting other players in Battlegrounds or Cyrodiil objectives or (the more likely goal) driving them away entirely because that just seems too daunting.

Suggestion: if you want to alert players to the dangers of PvPvE quests in PVP-enabled PvPvE zones like Cyrodiil and Imperial City, don't call the quests "PVE quests." They aren't. They all have the risk of PVP because they all take place in a PvPvE zone. if you want players to be clear-eyed about the risk of gankers or enemy players farming them, well, its right there in the name "PvPvE quest." Calling them "PVE quests" only wrongfully suggests an illusion of safety that inevitably disappoints and discourages players who find that illusion shattered when PVP happens in a PvPvE zone.

renne · February 2021

Look, even if they did change it so Cyro and IC have PvE instances, Midyear Mayhem is a PvP event, it would then just be that you HAD to do PvP to get the rewards.

And if they made it solely PvP then complaints from PvEers would still be through the roof that they couldn't do it or because they had to PvP for it. I get it, FOMO is a thing and everyone wants the dumb stuff from the Impresario as much as anyone else.

The fact that there ARE PvE quests available in both locations (and not just PvP quests) that are easy, yes, riding halfway across the map even without rapids, even with your s l o w horse is still the easiest, that can be done by PvEers without having to lrn2PvP or engage with enemy PvPers, PvEers are genuinely spoiled by this.

Seriously. Stop a moment and think what it would be like if there were no PvE quests you could do in this thing that you're all complaining about.

PizzaCat82 · February 2021

renne wrote: »

Look, even if they did change it so Cyro and IC have PvE instances, Midyear Mayhem is a PvP event, it would then just be that you HAD to do PvP to get the rewards.

And if they made it solely PvP then complaints from PvEers would still be through the roof that they couldn't do it or because they had to PvP for it. I get it, FOMO is a thing and everyone wants the dumb stuff from the Impresario as much as anyone else.

The fact that there ARE PvE quests available in both locations (and not just PvP quests) that are easy, yes, riding halfway across the map even without rapids, even with your s l o w horse is still the easiest, that can be done by PvEers without having to lrn2PvP or engage with enemy PvPers, PvEers are genuinely spoiled by this.

Seriously. Stop a moment and think what it would be like if there were no PvE quests you could do in this thing that you're all complaining about.

They wouldn't be complaining about ganking, that's for sure.

I am glad there' something for the PVEers to do but the crux of the matter is you're still sending the sheep in with the wolves and expecting the sheep to suck it up because all the other events are geared toward sheep. I've done every dungeon and trial in this game with my PVP poison gear and I wouldn't expect to kill a single PVPer with my PVE gear.

In fact I'm sure if we restricted tickets and reward to PVP activities there would be massive outcry on many topics, how broken the PVP meta is, how bad the lag is (I cant trust Potions or abilities to fire off 75% of the time) How bad the queues are in the popular campaigns, how bad the emp pushes and AP farming are (the leader boards are almost at 50+ million AP)

I can choose not to participate. Just like I can choose not to work for $1 a day. Doesn't make it any less of a bad situation for those that do choose it.

LightYagami · February 2021

ABSOLUTELY.
We PvPers need to do PvE for items we need. Why only PvEers have the privilege of complaining PvP in PvP zones?

We have Only two PvP zones, and BG we can't even select game modes.

Vast majority of this game is about PvE. Stop complaining the only remaining minority of PvP.

PizzaCat82 · February 2021

LightYagami wrote: »

ABSOLUTELY.
We PvPers need to do PvE for items we need. Why only PvEers have the privilege of complaining PvP in PvP zones?

We have Only two PvP zones, and BG we can't even select game modes.

Vast majority of this game is about PvE. Stop complaining the only remaining minority of PvP.

Buys monster helm with AP.. tries to buy PVP jewelry with gold... Hmm...

zvavi · February 2021

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

LightYagami wrote: »

ABSOLUTELY.
We PvPers need to do PvE for items we need. Why only PvEers have the privilege of complaining PvP in PvP zones?

We have Only two PvP zones, and BG we can't even select game modes.

Vast majority of this game is about PvE. Stop complaining the only remaining minority of PvP.

Buys monster helm with AP.. tries to buy PVP jewelry with gold... Hmm...

May I recommend guild stores? (Ps, they are available for ap only only during MYM)

LightYagami · February 2021

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

LightYagami wrote: »

ABSOLUTELY.
We PvPers need to do PvE for items we need. Why only PvEers have the privilege of complaining PvP in PvP zones?

We have Only two PvP zones, and BG we can't even select game modes.

Vast majority of this game is about PvE. Stop complaining the only remaining minority of PvP.

Buys monster helm with AP.. tries to buy PVP jewelry with gold... Hmm...

Only a few items available per week, you know?

What about ALL the PvE zones, PvE quests, PvE dungeons, PvE trials, etc?

How many zones are PvE and how many are PvP? How many events are PvE and how many are PvP? Do PvPers complain being killed in dungeons because they're not good enough at PvE? Do PvPers cry for doing long role play story lines?

Come on, it's the only remaining PvP. If you don't like it, don't play it. I don't force myself to play Vet Trials. Simple and clear.

PizzaCat82 · February 2021

zvavi wrote: »

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

LightYagami wrote: »

ABSOLUTELY.
We PvPers need to do PvE for items we need. Why only PvEers have the privilege of complaining PvP in PvP zones?

We have Only two PvP zones, and BG we can't even select game modes.

Vast majority of this game is about PvE. Stop complaining the only remaining minority of PvP.

Buys monster helm with AP.. tries to buy PVP jewelry with gold... Hmm...

May I recommend guild stores?

You may, but its hit or miss, especially on the rare-er sets. Easier to just ask someone with lots of AP to buy it for you.

RageKing · February 2021

its so easy to complete a daily in IC and Cyrodill. the fact that if they are met with any sort of interaction with another player is so detrimental to their entire game experience is just sad.

If you cant handle the possibility of being attacked by an enemy player during a in game event... just stay away from the event. dont try to ruin it for everyone else because your too sensitive to venture out of your RP safe zone.

PizzaCat82 · February 2021

RageKing wrote: »

its so easy to complete a daily in IC and Cyrodill. the fact that if they are met with any sort of interaction with another player is so detrimental to their entire game experience is just sad.

If you cant handle the possibility of being attacked by an enemy player during a in game event... just stay away from the event. dont try to ruin it for everyone else because your too sensitive to venture out of your RP safe zone.

Its even easier to kill a player trying to complete a quest in IC or Cyro.

Not everyone knows or does the Scouting mission or Arena, and most certainly are forced to interact to kill bosses for style pages.

My opinion is that PVP events should be about PVP, not about hunting quests and PVPing questers.

ZaroktheImmortal · February 2021

eso_lags wrote: »

ZaroktheImmortal wrote: »

PVPERS players need to stop complaining about pvers. ESO is a mainly a pve focused game. If you don't like them don't play.

im shocked you edited that comment

Was just adding a bit more to it cause I thought of more to put in to make my point.

caperb · February 2021

ZaroktheImmortal wrote: »

PVPERS players need to stop complaining about pvers. ESO is a mainly a pve focused game. If you don't like them don't play.

You are completely missing the point here and start talking about something else.

This is a PvP event, yet the forums are full again of PvE players complaining about a PvP event while they still have the other 95% of the game. You can play that.

ZaroktheImmortal · February 2021

caperb wrote: »

ZaroktheImmortal wrote: »

PVPERS players need to stop complaining about pvers. ESO is a mainly a pve focused game. If you don't like them don't play.

You are completely missing the point here and start talking about something else.

This is a PvP event, yet the forums are full again of PvE players complaining about a PvP event while they still have the other 95% of the game. You can play that.

Yet they put rewards on it that pvers will want to try to get them to compete in it and we both know that most people in the event are pvers since that's the majority of the playerbase and where the game is mostly focused. Okay by this standard pvpers should not be able to play pve events or enter pve zones since so many keep telling pvers to get out of pvp zones.

caperb · February 2021

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

This is not a PVP event. This is a PVE event that takes place in PVP zones. Come back to me when its "Gank 10 actual players" or "Kill the emperor" to get a ticket.

It feels a lot like ZOS wants to bring in "questers" which aren't PVPing, to have someone for the actual PvPers to fight.

And then people wonder why the questers aren't having a good time?

I would like to friendly remind you that this is a PvP event, even ZOS treats it as one:
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/59469
"SEIZE LOOT & GLORY DURING THE MIDYEAR MAYHEM PVP EVENT!"

ZOS doesn't want to bring in questers to have someone for the actual PvP'ers to fight. ZOS brings in big zergs at the keeps so there are bigger fights and more lag. Outside of some of the usual bowtards no actual PvP'er is going to the towns to hunt PvE players, since it is also a double AP event (AP = gold rings = money you know?).

Actual PvP player will either farm AP ticks at big fights at keeps or go to the IC to enjoy the more fast paced and lagless combat. Contrary to what some state here, during the event the IC has a lot more PvP players than usually and PvP players who are there come looking for other PvP players in the first place.

zvavi · February 2021

ZaroktheImmortal wrote: »

Okay by this standard pvpers should not be able to play pve events or enter pve zones since so many keep telling pvers to get out of pvp zones.

I like it how from if you don't like PvP don't do it u got to PvP-ers telling you to get out of PvP.

Ps for your knowledge I skipped tickets I didn't feel like getting in the past, feel free to do the same.

caperb · February 2021

ZaroktheImmortal wrote: »

caperb wrote: »

ZaroktheImmortal wrote: »

PVPERS players need to stop complaining about pvers. ESO is a mainly a pve focused game. If you don't like them don't play.

You are completely missing the point here and start talking about something else.

This is a PvP event, yet the forums are full again of PvE players complaining about a PvP event while they still have the other 95% of the game. You can play that.

Yet they put rewards on it that pvers will want to try to get them to compete in it and we both know that most people in the event are pvers since that's the majority of the playerbase and where the game is mostly focused. Okay by this standard pvpers should not be able to play pve events or enter pve zones since so many keep telling pvers to get out of pvp zones.

I am not telling PvE'ers to get out of PvP zones. I'm also not hunting PvE'ers in PvP zones. We just ask to stop all those useless complaints that people are unable to get the tickets while this is not true at all. Many examples of how to do the event without engaging in PvP in just a couple of minutes have been given on the forums, most of these examples by PvP players...

Also I don't think the majority of the playerbase is just PvE only. At least 95% of all the good PvP players I know also play endgame PvE and vice versa. These players who complain that a random normal dungeon is too hard because PvE is boring are as annoying as the players who complain they can't complete a 2 minute Cyrodiil quest.

WaywardArgonian · February 2021

I'm a PVP'er but I could do without the splitting of event tickets between two different pvp zones. It's a bit annoying to have to deal with 2 queues, and I have no interest in interrupting my Cyrodiil adventures to go do the Elven Gardens daily in the IC. I feel like if PVE'ers could just have gotten 3 tickets by doing a Cyro scouting mission or town daily, it'd cause them a whole lot less grief, too.

Kiyakotari · February 2021

CrashTest wrote: »

. And camping spawns prevents you from getting that spawn if it's dead and gone when you get there.

Um, no, you just wait for the stupid thing to respawn. Just like anyone else has to do when farming them.

Sanguinor2 · February 2021

ZaroktheImmortal wrote: »

Yet they put rewards on it that pvers will want to try to get them to compete in it and we both know that most people in the event are pvers since that's the majority of the playerbase and where the game is mostly focused. Okay by this standard pvpers should not be able to play pve events or enter pve zones since so many keep telling pvers to get out of pvp zones.

Its almost as if Zos wants people that usually dont go into PvP to go into PvP during this event. Like they do during the undaunted event when they place rewards in dungeons.
The majority in this game are rpers and questers that dont even know how combat in this game works, by your logic we´d have to eliminate all combat except for light attack spamming so that they could have their skyrim combat experience and they wouldnt have trouble anymore to keep up with the evil elitist trial goers. Also no more dungeons, trials or arenas only overland quests and each world boss needs to be soloable by a lvl 10 character without gear.

ke.sardenb14_ESO · February 2021

It is incredibly disheartening to be rolled up on and deleted in a second even when you have impen gear on. I'm not a fan of having to farm in PvP and I wish there was some out, but let not forget that all PvP has is BG, Cryo, and imperial city. Let's let them have thier cake, since some of them literally have have to PvE to keep up with the meta for PvP, that changes way more often.

Cirantille · February 2021

Imagine not feeling upset to dying to a code generated-npc bosses who has no skills whatsoever but getting offended because an intelligent-human being killed you

I would be more upset if I died to npcs

aetherial_heavenn · February 2021

DocFrost72 wrote: »

Worth noting;

Not once during those "pve" events can another player actively stop you from achieving your goal.

Actually I have seen plenty of toxic PvEers leave group before someone gets quest finiished during undaunted. Or worse still, I've seen them solo kill the boss so the other people's pledge doesn't count. Because must do it at max speed.

I have seen low level players routinely kicked during undaunted even from normals. So they have to re-queue.
THAT IS TOXIC the definition of : actually stopping new players from doing a PvE event.

There are jerks all over the game. I just wish the usual suspects would STFU about midyear mayhem. It's 2 small events a year. Ignore it or participate and die a lot until you learn. Just like everywhere else in the game.
edited: typos