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Get us a PVE Cyrodiil
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Indigogo✭✭✭✭✭Midyear mayhem is not the time to do your skyshard hunts and pve stuff. That's all there is to it. Embrace pvp, or wait till a quiet time when your faction holds the map. Ezy.10 -
PurplePlatypus✭✭✭They just need to remove any pve content from Cyrodiil and Imperial City: skyshards, fishing, pve-quests, delves, books etc.
I go there (during the event for tickets) without equipped weapons at all, but this still does not stop pvp maniacs from bloody massacre
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Sanguinor2✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭PurplePlatypus wrote: »They just need to remove any pve content from Cyrodiil and Imperial City: skyshards, fishing, pve-quests, delves, books etc.
I go there (during the event for tickets) without equipped weapons at all, but this still does not stop pvp maniacs from bloody massacre
If you want to avoid players may I suggest not going there when there is the most amount of players across the entire year? I heared that might help
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Runaerian✭✭✭NO. the whole point of cyrodiil is that it's a PVP zone with PVE elements. Some people like having a more relaxed pve objective with the added interest/challenge of the possibility of a PvP encounter.
You have THE WHOLE REST OF THE GAME to quest and collect skyshards. Leave Cyrodiil as it is for those who enjoy it. If you can't survive with the remaining 98% of the game that's pve focused then I don't know what to tell you.12 -
NordSwordnBoard✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Every year this thread comes up. This event is also for the pve crowd who can be adventurous and adapt, not the pve crowd who are stubborn. If one pve player realizes they like pvp (despite what they've been told of the infinite horrors) and start playing additional content, it's worth all the cries.
This event expands the horizons of capable players, which is beneficial to all.Fear is the Mindkiller12 -
Lotus781✭✭✭✭Be nice to see the numbers of pvers who actually stay after the event todo pvp content, i'm guessing its not very high.Edited by Lotus781 on January 30, 2021 11:24AM2
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wolfbone✭✭✭✭✭would make no sense as in the current time period, cyrodill is beseeched by all 3 alliances, and there will be no real winner for a long time.
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Skcarkden✭✭✭✭MasterSpatula wrote: »The event doesn't punish or lock out PVEers. it specifically exists to encourage PVEers to try something new. That's its point. To provide PVEers an opportunity to skip all PVP aspects defies the entire point of the event.
Wrong. This is to give PvP'ers easy targets. There's pvp players, then there's pvp noobs who need someone to beat for once, so they cry and cry untill ZoS finds a way to force pve to join pvp in the way of events or imperial city (because let's face it, you don't make a pve/pvp content zone unless you're trying to throw sheep to the wolves)
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Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I saw all of Cyrodiil I ever need to see just getting master fisherman on 4 characters. I don't care about the skyshards or any of the rest of it.
I'll probably start a few more master fishers before much longer, so I'll see the same amount of Cyro again - just the fishing holes....0 -
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The majority of events are PvE. Why complaining about 2 PvP events?!TheDarkRuler wrote: »Discussion is old af but comes to my view everytime when ZoS decides to splurge an event in the PVP areas for PVE'lers to farm their writs for the Impresaria. (...)
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✭✭Gold Coast is in Cyrodiil and that’s a PVE zone so you already have PVE Cyrodiil lol8 -
ArchMikem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Trust me when I say this, but you're not missing out on much when it comes to PVE in Cyrodiil. The quests might have a twist or two, like the one where you're delivering the news a woman is pregnant to her lover, but they're just basic go from point A to point B. There is no overarching story like the Imperial City has.
Agreed. The map is empty, the quests are bare bones, and the towns/cities don't even deserve to be called that. There are very few actually nice vistas to see and a couple delves. There's actually a neat river valley, but its behind the AD East gate. Red or Blue characters have to control two AD home keeps just to go there.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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JKorr✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭A PvE PvP mode? Just play the other 98% of the game that is PvE lmao
Yes, because it is so easy to explore Cyrodiil environs and IC in the pve areas. Oh.....wait.
I'd love the chance to explore and do pve content in Cyrodiil and IC, only dealing with the npc enemies. I will guess there are mature, adult type pvpers, who actually want a good honorable fight. However, I have never run into those players. While I do want to explore the zones, and would love the chance to do the pve quests, I do not want to deal with the immature rabidly competitive gottabetehbestestnomatterwhat pvpers that I have run into during the past trips to crafting stations in IC. I really don't care about getting killed over and over and over and over like the one player kept doing. Its the wasted playing time respawning because an uber leet pvper gets their jollies from killing someone over and over who isn't fighting back.0 -
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✭✭I think it would be great for a future chapter.
-Abarn tharn story line could roll onto doing what he intended and put a stop to the all banners war, shifted it out of the timeline kind of, meaning we can still have the beloved pvp map and mode we have and have a PVE new chapter and story mode. you dont access the pvp map via the world map so it could work.
-Could explore all of cryo and help starting to rebuild IC and surrounding areas, could have quest line relating to alliance as well which would be interesting. would be ace to full explore centeral cryrodiil , IC city and surrounding middle island (which we cannot get to at the moment) also without getting attacked by other players and daedra every two foot. lol
-Pretty please.@Chaos2088 PC EU Server | AD-PvP1 -
Ackwalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Does that mean that after the undaunted event, there will be PvP enabled for all zones? I vote no.2 -
Jaimeh✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭PvErs are not locked out, you can still explore, and if you die just rez and continue. Most of Cyro is landscape and the PvE related areas are concentrated at small parts, so it wouldn't make sense to make a duplicate map, just for that. As for tickets, it's the only PvP event, in the same way, PvPers have to do PvE content for the others. Game doesn't have to cater to every single playstyle at every single event, and they give out a few choices for tickets, to make it easier (for scouting missions, you just have to ride to a place, then sneak while the objective is complete, and that's automatically the 2 tickets for the day).3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I never understand this issue.
There are campaigns that nobody pvps in.
Aside from the town which are repeatable fetch quests, the actual quests in cyrodiil are nowhere near where people actually pvp, so your chances of seeing people are tiny.
Even with delves, only a tiny an ubt of them have pvpers going in for the buff.
Honestly, buff servers don't seem to be a thing anymore... or I've had terrible luck identifying them. (Though no-CP is way less active than the CP enabled campaigns.)
That said, you're not wrong about the content. The only unique thing about Cyrodiil's delves is the multi-boss structure (when they have that.) But, really, the entire zone hinges on it being PvP enabled to be interesting.1 -
AlnilamE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭TheDarkRuler wrote: »Trust me when I say this, but you're not missing out on much when it comes to PVE in Cyrodiil. The quests might have a twist or two, like the one where you're delivering the news a woman is pregnant to her lover, but they're just basic go from point A to point B. There is no overarching story like the Imperial City has.
Skyshards... been trying to get my Skyshards for my Necromancers for days and I am contantly harassed and ganked when try to get those.
A PvP event is not the best time to get those. The week right after, though, will be very quiet, and a perfect time for that.The Moot Councillor4 -
JKorr✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭A PvE PvP mode? Just play the other 98% of the game that is PvE lmao
Yes, because it is so easy to explore Cyrodiil environs and IC in the pve areas. Oh.....wait.
I'd love the chance to explore and do pve content in Cyrodiil and IC, only dealing with the npc enemies. I will guess there are mature, adult type pvpers, who actually want a good honorable fight. However, I have never run into those players. While I do want to explore the zones, and would love the chance to do the pve quests, I do not want to deal with the immature rabidly competitive gottabetehbestestnomatterwhat pvpers that I have run into during the past trips to crafting stations in IC. I really don't care about getting killed over and over and over and over like the one player kept doing. Its the wasted playing time respawning because an uber leet pvper gets their jollies from killing someone over and over who isn't fighting back.
Then just dont do it? You can experience 95% of the game fighting monsters that dont even tickle you. Any sense of immersion in the story is already lost because the most casual players got their way. Like ffs you fight an actual daedric prince in his own realm that poses absolutely ZERO threat to you unless you afk for 5 minutes. Such immersion. Much wow.
The remaining 5% of the game gives you the slightest bit of challenge and instantly people fold and demand that they get that 5% too. How about just skip that part and let people who want a challenge have their scraps? Or maybe challenge yourself even the slightest bit to pull through it?
I don't do it. One of the best things the Devs did was make attunable stations. I'd still like to explore, but it isn't worth dealing with the kind of pvpers I've met so far.
I do, however, find it interesting that so many pvpers instantly start ranting when pve cyrodiil/IC is mentioned . No one said "take away pvp Cyrodiil and IC". People who would like to explore and quest without dealing with the rabidly competitive gottakilleveryoneeverywhereallthetime pvpers would like a separate instance of pve Cyrodiil. The only thing that pvpers would be missing out on is the easy ganking and griefing that make so many pvers avoid pvp like its the bubonic plague.Edited by JKorr on January 30, 2021 6:14PM3 -
TheDarkRuler✭✭✭✭✭
✭All that hate is the reason why i wrote this thread.
It would not be much impact for the "real" PVP people to do their stuff in their PVP campaign.
The PVE people could to their stuff in their PVE campaign.
THE ONLY REASON WHY PEOPLE DONT WANT THE CHANGE IS BECAUSE THE WANT PVE-FODDER FOR AP GAIN.
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[Edited to remove Baiting]Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on February 1, 2021 6:45PM7 -
Raideen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭MasterSpatula wrote: »The event doesn't punish or lock out PVEers. it specifically exists to encourage PVEers to try something new. That's its point. To provide PVEers an opportunity to skip all PVP aspects defies the entire point of the event.
It absolutely punishes PVE'ers
You dont just walk into PVP in ESO and expect to win. It takes a solid build, solid understanding of how BG's work, how imperial city/cyrodiil work. Non verbal team communication, in fact its one of the most confusing things in game.
Forcing Pushing PVE'ers into PVP to get tickets for an event while wearing PVE gear or with a PVE build is a sure fire way to get that PVE'er to never engage in PVP again.
There is nothing fun, exciting, engaging or otherwise about getting globaled in a literal second every time you leave the lobby.5 -
TheDarkRuler✭✭✭✭✭
✭MasterSpatula wrote: »The event doesn't punish or lock out PVEers. it specifically exists to encourage PVEers to try something new. That's its point. To provide PVEers an opportunity to skip all PVP aspects defies the entire point of the event.
It absolutely punishes PVE'ers
You dont just walk into PVP in ESO and expect to win. It takes a solid build, solid understanding of how BG's work, how imperial city/cyrodiil work. Non verbal team communication, in fact its one of the most confusing things in game.
Forcing Pushing PVE'ers into PVP to get tickets for an event while wearing PVE gear or with a PVE build is a sure fire way to get that PVE'er to never engage in PVP again.
There is nothing fun, exciting, engaging or otherwise about getting globaled in a literal second every time you leave the lobby.
This. I forced myself into the daily PVP-garbage for the event by slotting PVP-attributed Proc sets that i will most likely toss into a crate until next "midyear" mayhem. Its not fun, its work and I tend to play a game for fun. Vet-trials are fun. 1vsX-zerg beatdowns where you just want to do a daily is not. I toss away my Tel'Vars on purpose to not give them anything at least.
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Raideen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Brenticus12 wrote: »[Quoted post was removed]
Really? I spent 3 hours yesterday trying to get the ticket out of imperial city.Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on February 1, 2021 6:45PM2 -
TheDarkRuler✭✭✭✭✭
✭Depends on which time you play. I usually go online during 4 a.m. EU time.
There are still a few people out there but most of them are PVE people which ignore players.
The easy ways are those "free X citizens" since you can just spam yourself in with revives and do the same citizen over and over after some cooldown. Sadly there are some "farmers" that wait on those positions in perma-cloak to gank you.1 -
Raideen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭TheDarkRuler wrote: »MasterSpatula wrote: »The event doesn't punish or lock out PVEers. it specifically exists to encourage PVEers to try something new. That's its point. To provide PVEers an opportunity to skip all PVP aspects defies the entire point of the event.
It absolutely punishes PVE'ers
You dont just walk into PVP in ESO and expect to win. It takes a solid build, solid understanding of how BG's work, how imperial city/cyrodiil work. Non verbal team communication, in fact its one of the most confusing things in game.
Forcing Pushing PVE'ers into PVP to get tickets for an event while wearing PVE gear or with a PVE build is a sure fire way to get that PVE'er to never engage in PVP again.
There is nothing fun, exciting, engaging or otherwise about getting globaled in a literal second every time you leave the lobby.
This. I forced myself into the daily PVP-garbage for the event by slotting PVP-attributed Proc sets that i will most likely toss into a crate until next "midyear" mayhem. Its not fun, its work and I tend to play a game for fun. Vet-trials are fun. 1vsX-zerg beatdowns where you just want to do a daily is not. I toss away my Tel'Vars on purpose to not give them anything at least.
That is a good idea about tossing the tel var stones, lol.
I spent 3 hours getting 1 ticket yesterday. I tried it again today. Was doing my thing, killing NPC's looking for traps to disable....and a group of about 25 people rolled up on me and globaled me so fast I had no clue what happened.
BG's are reasonably fun, but imp city and cyrodiil are just dumb. The RVRVR concept needs to just go the way of the dodo, it does not work, never has.
I much prefer wow style of battleground PVP where its the same numbers facing off with some form of objective to complete.0 -
Raideen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭TheDarkRuler wrote: »Depends on which time you play. I usually go online during 4 a.m. EU time.
There are still a few people out there but most of them are PVE people which ignore players.
The easy ways are those "free X citizens" since you can just spam yourself in with revives and do the same citizen over and over after some cooldown. Sadly there are some "farmers" that wait on those positions in perma-cloak to gank you.
ya, I did that one yesterday but it still took me forever because of gankers and overall people just harassing me. I just run by folks if I see them but it has not been reciprocal yet.
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✭✭✭✭✭Brenticus12 wrote: »So during undaunted event let's make the entire game a free for all open PVP zone, that'll even things out then right?
Get outta here mate, it's so easy for PVE'ers to farm tickets during the event. Just do one of the easy dailies. It takes less than 15 minutes to do both.
Really? I spent 3 hours yesterday trying to get the ticket out of imperial city.
Do the Arena daily. You can sit in the safety of tower and range attack the mobs, takes about ten minutes. No running around getting killed, then try to run all the way back.2
