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I will not be able to do most of the things I do daily with this CP "change"
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I spent a few hours parsing with all sorts of different sets and champion point setups, and my conclusion is that it will no longer be possible for me to do many veteran DLC's, most achievement runs, veteran trials, much solo content, and many other things without grinding an insane amount.
I have 902 champion points, and I've fine tuned myself to be able to parse 48k on the 6m dummy. In my testing, the best I can get is 32k.
130 champion points gives only 415 spell damage? This is absolutely ridiculous, and effectively breaks the game.
The buffs from the champion points are so small that it effectively removes any point in earning them in the first place.
I don't see how anyone in their right mind could have looked at this patch and thought even releasing it for a sneak peak would have a positive impact on the community.
Way to torpedo morale and alienate the most loyal players ZOS. Shame.
I have 902 champion points, and I've fine tuned myself to be able to parse 48k on the 6m dummy. In my testing, the best I can get is 32k.
130 champion points gives only 415 spell damage? This is absolutely ridiculous, and effectively breaks the game.
The buffs from the champion points are so small that it effectively removes any point in earning them in the first place.
I don't see how anyone in their right mind could have looked at this patch and thought even releasing it for a sneak peak would have a positive impact on the community.
Way to torpedo morale and alienate the most loyal players ZOS. Shame.
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xAKlMB0xSLlCEx✭✭✭spacefracking wrote: »I spent a few hours parsing with all sorts of different sets and champion point setups, and my conclusion is that it will no longer be possible for me to do many veteran DLC's, most achievement runs, veteran trials, much solo content, and many other things without grinding an insane amount.
I have 902 champion points, and I've fine tuned myself to be able to parse 48k on the 6m dummy. In my testing, the best I can get is 32k.
130 champion points gives only 415 spell damage? This is absolutely ridiculous, and effectively breaks the game.
The buffs from the champion points are so small that it effectively removes any point in earning them in the first place.
I don't see how anyone in their right mind could have looked at this patch and thought even releasing it for a sneak peak would have a positive impact on the community.
Way to torpedo morale and alienate the most loyal players ZOS. Shame.
The sad thing is end game players should have seen this coming for a while.
No more skins for hard mode trials, no more cool collectibles for dungeon trifecta achievements.
Zos somehow thinks halving the top dps to be the same as more “casual” players dps will somehow make the “casual” players more accepted into harder achievements runs.
That’s just not the case. The way they’ve built the game is with many “dps check” mechanics. You can’t build a game like that for 6 years, then turn around in year 6 and change the entire thing.1 -
spacefracking✭✭✭✭There isn't even that much of a gap there with the diminishing returns. Players in the 400's and 500's can easily hit 95k with *skill* alone. Most casual veteran trials only request like 65k.
Its fine if they need to rework things for performance, but nerf-ing everyone across the board is just ludicrous.1 -
xAKlMB0xSLlCEx✭✭✭spacefracking wrote: »There isn't even that much of a gap there with the diminishing returns. Players in the 400's and 500's can easily hit 95k with *skill* alone. Most casual veteran trials only request like 65k.
Its fine if they need to rework things for performance, but nerf-ing everyone across the board is just ludicrous.
That is absolutely true, but the *skill* part bothers some people to hear.
Instead of focusing and working on getting better, they’d prefer everyone hit 40k and the content be impossible, because “if I can’t do it, no one can”.
Regardless of the fact that we’ve been doing it for literal years now.....2 -
Darktrox✭✭✭Sandman929 wrote: »Aren't there currently some things broken with parsing on the PTS?
Yes. A lot of them, including all crit damage stars cp on the blue tree. Please guys, it's just day 1 PTS, it's not it's going live with the SAME stats values, this is why the PTS is for, if you find feeback and issue, submit a feedback report in-game from the PTS version.3 -
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✭✭✭Sandman929 wrote: »Aren't there currently some things broken with parsing on the PTS?
Yes, penetration isn't working for starters, but ppl seems to think everyone's dps is getting halved and jumping to conclusions.
If we will really have a dramatic decrease in power come next patch ZOS would likely come out to tell us and adjust content.
This a casual mmo, it is in no way ZOS' interest to make content more difficult for casual players.5 -
Darktrox✭✭✭Sandman929 wrote: »Aren't there currently some things broken with parsing on the PTS?
Yes, penetration isn't working for starters, but ppl seems to think everyone's dps is getting halved and jumping to conclusions.
If we will really have a dramatic decrease in power come next patch ZOS would likely come out to tell us and adjust content.
This a casual mmo, it is in no way ZOS' interest to make content more difficult for casual players.
This. Also, trial dummy resistances are off too with 18k.0 -
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✭Sandman929 wrote: »Aren't there currently some things broken with parsing on the PTS?
Yes. A lot of them, including all crit damage stars cp on the blue tree. Please guys, it's just day 1 PTS, it's not it's going live with the SAME stats values, this is why the PTS is for, if you find feeback and issue, submit a feedback report in-game from the PTS version.
It would be great if it was that way, but sadly often feedback on the pts just gets ignored and broken stuff just gets released to live the way it was in the first PTS notes, even though players told them that it was broken.PC/EU, StamSorc Main2 -
Darktrox✭✭✭Sandman929 wrote: »Aren't there currently some things broken with parsing on the PTS?
Yes. A lot of them, including all crit damage stars cp on the blue tree. Please guys, it's just day 1 PTS, it's not it's going live with the SAME stats values, this is why the PTS is for, if you find feeback and issue, submit a feedback report in-game from the PTS version.
It would be great if it was that way, but sadly often feedback on the pts just gets ignored and broken stuff just gets released to live the way it was in the first PTS notes, even though players told them that it was broken.
This isn't feedback at this point, it's just straight out broken, I wouldn't worry too much about parsing until it's fixed. Way too many things not working at all to NOT them noticing in a test cycle that THEY wanted you to test and report. Unlikely. Don't panic yet.2 -
spacefracking✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »But veteran DLCs do you mean trials?
I'm referring to doing things like vet Fang Lair HM, vet Stone Garden HM. The second to last boss in vet Lair of Maarselok would be nearly impossible without 3 dps, and even then, still difficult.2
