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Stop Race skill changes !!! Need Nords change tokens !
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JobooAGS✭✭✭✭✭
✭StarOfElyon wrote: »Merlin13KAGL wrote: »- Nord
- Resist Frost:
- This passive no longer grants immunity to the Chilled status effect.
- Increased the Frost Resistance to 4620, up from 2310.
- Rugged: Reduced the Armor granted from this passive to 2600, down from 3960.
- Resist Frost:
Nord is still going to be good. A reduction in resistance (when they were probably over cap) means people just won't be able to play completely dumb and get away with it. People will actually have to develop some dodging and blocking skills like other races do.
Useless bonuses and its combination do not make character good.
The only nord good part was easy get 32500 res.
Now you will get over cup or less res.
In exchange of sustain.
Other race can just easely get cup and have better sustain or other good parametrs.
Just compare this to redgard as example.
It can not be even compared !
Redgard is better tank and stam DD.
Nord is trash, thank you.
Wait you actually believe that the most fragile race is a better tank than Nord? Who has more resistances, health and ult gen....
8% cost reduction isn’t going to do much especially when puncture and other weapon abilities are dirt cheap.
as for a better stam dd, in pvp I will totally disagree. The resistances, hp and ult gen alone will beat the 500 extra stam and sustain (sustain is quite easily obtainable with the endurance changes in the previous patch).3 - Nord
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RavenSworn✭✭✭✭✭Elwendryll wrote: »This is way too dramatic. You can play tank with mostly anything.
My tank is a khajiit (and a sorc), I can clear absolutely anything with it.
Overall several races were nerfed, it's okay.
The problem is not that you can't do something with a given race. The problem is that people with non-meta races are shunned by some toxic players in groups.
Then er... why are you playing with them? They are toxic, why give them more power over you?Ingame: RavenSworn, Pc / NA.
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AyaDark✭✭✭✭✭The Player befeore already show calculations, so it is not best choise it is worst choise now.
Even Altmer can be more usefull now as a tank, than nord.
Nord is not good Stam or mana DD.
I will not say aboute Lore, magick orcs, and etc.
Lore of the game behind racial passives was already dead a year ago.
As long as I get race change tokens for each nord on Account (I have 3) i even do not care.
So all i need is function that make my character look the same each update and racial change item each time they change something in it !
About hard resist get - Mundus !!! You can always easely use mundus.
If you need use it on nord, you get no good sustain nor good passives.
Regen stamina in block as example is good bonus, res can be easely get, as some sustain from CP.
And do the people who make changes play be game may be just a little ?
How changes like this can be made even on PTS ? It is not early beta.
I now see 3 mechaniks that can be easely abused in teory, need just to check it.
Do some body try to drop untistan calldown of potions and spam it by CD ?
Do metigations from CP and Armors work ?
How about vampire cloud + it ?
And it is only 1 of this ideas i get forst tome reading patch notes.0 -
ZaroktheImmortal✭✭✭✭✭
✭Welp RIP Nords. Their passives were only good for making them tanky and now that's getting nerfed.0 -
AyaDark✭✭✭✭✭ZaroktheImmortal wrote: »Welp RIP Nords. Their passives were only good for making them tanky and now that's getting nerfed.
Each update is just a update where game become worse and worse.
Why each time ALL is changed ?
Balance do not work like this.
It just look like random changes, because people do not know what they are doing.
Even mistakes in patch notes sets names.
Not Alessia Bulwark - Allesian order.
Skills that did not work for years do not normally fix. But second race change for such short period of time.
I do not ask change DK skills, only because it can just become even worse.
Class already need rework.
A lot of garbage useless skills in it.
But if new team will rework it i think it will just be as bad , than i just delete it and make NB or Sorc.
So better do not already change anithing, that work.
It us only dissapointment each update.
And no NPC fallowets this update ... .
Only bad changes.
Change your race, skills, sets, recalculate CP again.
It is like play the game that wipe each 1/2 year. Free shards do this like changes, not official games.0 -
VoidCommander✭✭✭✭✭Just wanted to point out that from a PURE dps standpoint (not accounting for sustain or health buffs), dark elves will now actually be just as good as high elves for magicka and better than orc for stamina dps. If ZOS doesn't provide race change tokens when this goes live, that will just be straight up unethical business practice pseudo forcing players to pay to switch races to the new best.
Of course I like the work they do at Zos and I know they are good people and would never exploit the playerbase in this way. I have full confidence that race change tokens will be provided for free.1 -
UntouchableHunter✭✭✭✭I hope ZOS give up this change. Nord is not a good race at all and this nerf will just make Nord die in this game. The resistance is the only thing a player Wana in a Nord. Now Nord is dead.0 -
AyaDark✭✭✭✭✭Moonsorrow wrote: »Good change, all patch.
Change my mind.
You are right, all i need is just go to play wow again and wait aion2 and etc.
To have any hope was silly. So just do not even care anymore.
So good changes to not play. Really motivated now even more.Edited by AyaDark on January 28, 2021 7:39AM1 -
YandereGirlfriend✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭UntouchableHunter wrote: »I hope ZOS give up this change. Nord is not a good race at all and this nerf will just make Nord die in this game. The resistance is the only thing a player Wana in a Nord. Now Nord is dead.
That's definitely false.
The ulti-gen passive is also extremely valuable in both PvE as well as PvP and it is unique among all of the races.0 -
Iki✭✭✭Instead of increasing useless frost resistance I`d like to see them adding little bit weapon damage to that passive, just 129 would suffice. It has never made sense to me that nords should be just damage sponges with significantly lower damage-output than many other races. Now that also altmers gonna be somewhat legit race for stamina dd its about time nords to get dps increase. Would be nice gesture towards all five of us who still play nord dd and refuse to reroll orc.1 -
Elwendryll✭✭✭✭✭
✭Changing racial bonuses that are behind a paywall is a quite obvious money grab.
I think we can all agree that if/when they adjust racial passives, they should come with one free respec per toon that is lvl 50.
... I get it, it's a company, they are here to make money, but do you truly believe they are purposefully ruining your racial passives to force you into buying a race change token?
They're doing it for balance, that's it, if the class is behind a paywall or not is a bit irrelevant for that specific discussion.
Discussing compensations is an other matter, it would indeed be a nice gesture to offer race change tokens. I still have free tokens from the last racial passive overhaul that I didn't use.
The problem is not that you can't do something with a given race. The problem is that people with non-meta races are shunned by some toxic players in groups.
So ZoS shouldn't try balancing the game because some people are toxic?
I've been running with a trial group since last August, we got TTT together in January, currently progressing on IR, I've been tanking on a khajiit, some people didn't notice I was playing a khajiit, and they have a tail. How do you expect people to notice what race you are playing? If people start looking at your race, it's because something is not working in the first place and they want to figure out why. Most group will look at how you perform, if you play a sub-optimal race but perform better than someone with an optimal race, why in the world would they pick the other dude over you? Stop running with toxic people, problem fixed.StarOfElyon wrote: »No, it's not easy for other races to get to resistance cap without sacrificing a lot of damage.
Yep, absolutely, that's why I don't bother reaching the resistance cap in the first place. The nice thing about that passive is/was the CPs, you could more easily switch between armor weights without having to switch your red CPs.
Conclusion: I'm not saying Nords are in a good place, but saying they're useless for tanking now is a huge stretch. Their ult gen is the really valuable passive, armor is a nice bonus that makes building more convenient, but that's it. You don't even need to reach resistance cap to perform at high level.
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Integral1900✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I have one last character that actually does veteran trials, she is a Nords and if these changes go live no one is ever gonna let that character in a veteran trials team ever again!
But I don’t care, if they do go live I will simply abandon the veteran content and keep the normals company.
I have no intention of buying a race change token if that’s what this whole business is in aid of.
I like Nords, I like the way they look and the way they sound. So go ahead, strip out every passive, nerf us into the ground, I’m still playing Nords!
If they’re overtuned in PvP then fix it with battle spirit or something! Why clobber PvE just because balancing PvP is like building a house of cards in an earthquake!Edited by Integral1900 on January 28, 2021 10:19AM0 -
AyaDark✭✭✭✭✭Elwendryll wrote: »Changing racial bonuses that are behind a paywall is a quite obvious money grab.
I think we can all agree that if/when they adjust racial passives, they should come with one free respec per toon that is lvl 50.
... I get it, it's a company, they are here to make money, but do you truly believe they are purposefully ruining your racial passives to force you into buying a race change token?
They're doing it for balance, that's it, if the class is behind a paywall or not is a bit irrelevant for that specific discussion.
Discussing compensations is an other matter, it would indeed be a nice gesture to offer race change tokens. I still have free tokens from the last racial passive overhaul that I didn't use.
The problem is not that you can't do something with a given race. The problem is that people with non-meta races are shunned by some toxic players in groups.
So ZoS shouldn't try balancing the game because some people are toxic?
I've been running with a trial group since last August, we got TTT together in January, currently progressing on IR, I've been tanking on a khajiit, some people didn't notice I was playing a khajiit, and they have a tail. How do you expect people to notice what race you are playing? If people start looking at your race, it's because something is not working in the first place and they want to figure out why. Most group will look at how you perform, if you play a sub-optimal race but perform better than someone with an optimal race, why in the world would they pick the other dude over you? Stop running with toxic people, problem fixed.StarOfElyon wrote: »No, it's not easy for other races to get to resistance cap without sacrificing a lot of damage.
Yep, absolutely, that's why I don't bother reaching the resistance cap in the first place. The nice thing about that passive is/was the CPs, you could more easily switch between armor weights without having to switch your red CPs.
Conclusion: I'm not saying Nords are in a good place, but saying they're useless for tanking now is a huge stretch. Their ult gen is the really valuable passive, armor is a nice bonus that makes building more convenient, but that's it. You don't even need to reach resistance cap to perform at high level.
If random changes are made - compensate.
The same for class reworks, race reworks and etc.
People pay money for game.
I rerace from imperial (donate race) to nord before. The same now.
Do i need rerace each update- is it free shard server or some official ?Edited by AyaDark on January 28, 2021 10:18AM0 -
Ylikollikas✭✭✭WrathOfInnos wrote: »
Yep, that looks about right to me, thanks for doing the work. I’m sure this could be done 5 different ways and arrive at 5 slightly different answers, but it seems like Nord is over 5 set bonuses so I question how someone arrived at the number 3.7.
Still it does appear that Nord is a little behind in density. Maybe they could get that 1500 Max Stam rounded up to 2000? That would be the addition of 0.46 set bonus, and bring their total up to 5.76. Wouldn’t make them much tankier, but would help those that want to play Nord DPS.
Hey, I was not on my PC so couldn't reply sooner. That other guy definitely has his math correct, I probably goofed up at some point. Imperial being 9.6% more stat dense than Nord is still big deal imo, but not as huge as my incorrect 50%.0 -
AyaDark✭✭✭✭✭You take race not only becouse it has 5.76 of useless stats.
You take it as better tank, DD or else.
If it is bad in all aspectswhat is the reason to make it.
I better now take redgard for my PVE tank.
Nord is not good tank, heal or DD.
Useless race. What is a point to do such changes ?
Like imperial race before.
Make any changes but stop change it already. It is already unplayable, stop change everything each update !!!Edited by AyaDark on January 28, 2021 10:53AM1 -
Xuhora✭✭✭✭✭You take race not only becouse it has 5.76 of useless stats.
You take it as better tank, DD or else.
If it is bad in all aspectswhat is the reason to make it.
I better now take redgard for my PVE tank.
Nord is not good tank, heal or DD.
Useless race. What is a point to do such changes ?
Like imperial race before.
Make any changes but stop change it already. It is already unplayable, stop change everything each update !!!
i really dont understand you aya...
In some other posts you are going hard against the meta, telling everyone that meta is meta but you can do everthing without meta and you post vids with your parses without meta gear.
yet here you are telling something is allready unplayble, while my nord healer AND my nord tank are both perfectly capable of doing Vtrials, some with HM, others without HM.
I really dont get it... to add something to the topic itself: seems like a nerf to nords indeed. will it be unplayable thou? no...
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AyaDark✭✭✭✭✭You take race not only becouse it has 5.76 of useless stats.
You take it as better tank, DD or else.
If it is bad in all aspectswhat is the reason to make it.
I better now take redgard for my PVE tank.
Nord is not good tank, heal or DD.
Useless race. What is a point to do such changes ?
Like imperial race before.
Make any changes but stop change it already. It is already unplayable, stop change everything each update !!!
i really dont understand you aya...
In some other posts you are going hard against the meta, telling everyone that meta is meta but you can do everthing without meta and you post vids with your parses without meta gear.
yet here you are telling something is allready unplayble, while my nord healer AND my nord tank are both perfectly capable of doing Vtrials, some with HM, others without HM.
I really dont get it... to add something to the topic itself: seems like a nerf to nords indeed. will it be unplayable thou? no...
I go hard against meta, but i do not like when i change some class based on some thing i need and it is removed.
My main character PVE tank is Nord, it was Emperial before.
I want it be some good one character i made for my build. Not some useless ... .
Nord now is just random combination of useless skills. Like emperial before.
I do not like change race, do good look new look of my character each time.
Nord isnot balanced to other race at all it is just useless
It was not perfect even before, but for me it looks better than Argonian as example.
And i am not meta player yes - but it do not mean i play trash character.
Meta is some guy promotion, and useless race is useless race.
Now any character you take will be better than nord in everything.
Better DD, tank, heal.
It is not about meta it is about useless race.1 -
synnerman✭✭✭✭I thought the same , if youre going to changes racials quite dramatically then you need to provide a free race token/ refund race tokens that actually cost quite a bit of cash.2
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TwinLamps✭✭✭✭✭
✭give nord 200 health regen when affected by status effectAwake, but at what cost0 -
SkysOutThizeOut✭✭✭✭All of my characters are Nord... I just rerolled an older character to Nord two weeks ago... I choose Nord because of its stat density. I actually paid to re-roll all of my current Nords (4) to Nord since the last racial change. This is a bit aggravating...0 -
AyaDark✭✭✭✭✭SkysOutThizeOut wrote: »All of my characters are Nord... I just rerolled an older character to Nord two weeks ago... I choose Nord because of its stat density. I actually paid to re-roll all of my current Nords (4) to Nord since the last racial change. This is a bit aggravating...
Welcome. I start with imperial.
Now i am nord. And have 3 more beauterfull nord girls.
The same bad luck.0 -
Xuhora✭✭✭✭✭You take race not only becouse it has 5.76 of useless stats.
You take it as better tank, DD or else.
If it is bad in all aspectswhat is the reason to make it.
I better now take redgard for my PVE tank.
Nord is not good tank, heal or DD.
Useless race. What is a point to do such changes ?
Like imperial race before.
Make any changes but stop change it already. It is already unplayable, stop change everything each update !!!
i really dont understand you aya...
In some other posts you are going hard against the meta, telling everyone that meta is meta but you can do everthing without meta and you post vids with your parses without meta gear.
yet here you are telling something is allready unplayble, while my nord healer AND my nord tank are both perfectly capable of doing Vtrials, some with HM, others without HM.
I really dont get it... to add something to the topic itself: seems like a nerf to nords indeed. will it be unplayable thou? no...
I go hard against meta, but i do not like when i change some class based on some thing i need and it is removed.
My main character PVE tank is Nord, it was Emperial before.
I want it be some good one character i made for my build. Not some useless ... .
Nord now is just random combination of useless skills. Like emperial before.
I do not like change race, do good look new look of my character each time.
Nord isnot balanced to other race at all it is just useless
It was not perfect even before, but for me it looks better than Argonian as example.
And i am not meta player yes - but it do not mean i play trash character.
Meta is some guy promotion, and useless race is useless race.
Now any character you take will be better than nord in everything.
Better DD, tank, heal.
It is not about meta it is about useless race.
dude... the very definition of META is the ever changing relations of powers in a game, that includes races. So you cannot go for "Meta is crap, you can do good without Meta gear and rotations" but start arround 3 threads because a new patch shifts your beloved races out of the meta.
i bet my 2 nord main characters that i can do just fine after the new patch rolls arround, as i do now (since my main is healer nord and that is definitly NOT meta)
Edit: Rephrasing for understandingEdited by Xuhora on January 28, 2021 12:51PM0 -
JobooAGS✭✭✭✭✭
✭You take race not only becouse it has 5.76 of useless stats.
You take it as better tank, DD or else.
If it is bad in all aspectswhat is the reason to make it.
I better now take redgard for my PVE tank.
Nord is not good tank, heal or DD.
Useless race. What is a point to do such changes ?
Like imperial race before.
Make any changes but stop change it already. It is already unplayable, stop change everything each update !!!
i really dont understand you aya...
In some other posts you are going hard against the meta, telling everyone that meta is meta but you can do everthing without meta and you post vids with your parses without meta gear.
yet here you are telling something is allready unplayble, while my nord healer AND my nord tank are both perfectly capable of doing Vtrials, some with HM, others without HM.
I really dont get it... to add something to the topic itself: seems like a nerf to nords indeed. will it be unplayable thou? no...
I go hard against meta, but i do not like when i change some class based on some thing i need and it is removed.
My main character PVE tank is Nord, it was Emperial before.
I want it be some good one character i made for my build. Not some useless ... .
Nord now is just random combination of useless skills. Like emperial before.
I do not like change race, do good look new look of my character each time.
Nord isnot balanced to other race at all it is just useless
It was not perfect even before, but for me it looks better than Argonian as example.
And i am not meta player yes - but it do not mean i play trash character.
Meta is some guy promotion, and useless race is useless race.
Now any character you take will be better than nord in everything.
Better DD, tank, heal.
It is not about meta it is about useless race.
dude... the very definition of META is the ever changing relations of powers in a game, that includes races. So you cannot go for "Meta is crap, you can do good without Meta gear and rotations" but start arround 3 threads because a new patch shifts your beloved races out of the meta.
i bet my 2 nord main characters that i can do just fine after the new patch rolls arround, as i do now (since my main is healer nord and that is definitly NOT meta)
Edit: Rephrasing for understanding
Nord is still great even after the nerf so you should have no issues with tanking with it. The ult gen is an amazing passive and arguably the best single passive in the game. Not sure what this guy is raving about.
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AyaDark✭✭✭✭✭You take race not only becouse it has 5.76 of useless stats.
You take it as better tank, DD or else.
If it is bad in all aspectswhat is the reason to make it.
I better now take redgard for my PVE tank.
Nord is not good tank, heal or DD.
Useless race. What is a point to do such changes ?
Like imperial race before.
Make any changes but stop change it already. It is already unplayable, stop change everything each update !!!
i really dont understand you aya...
In some other posts you are going hard against the meta, telling everyone that meta is meta but you can do everthing without meta and you post vids with your parses without meta gear.
yet here you are telling something is allready unplayble, while my nord healer AND my nord tank are both perfectly capable of doing Vtrials, some with HM, others without HM.
I really dont get it... to add something to the topic itself: seems like a nerf to nords indeed. will it be unplayable thou? no...
I go hard against meta, but i do not like when i change some class based on some thing i need and it is removed.
My main character PVE tank is Nord, it was Emperial before.
I want it be some good one character i made for my build. Not some useless ... .
Nord now is just random combination of useless skills. Like emperial before.
I do not like change race, do good look new look of my character each time.
Nord isnot balanced to other race at all it is just useless
It was not perfect even before, but for me it looks better than Argonian as example.
And i am not meta player yes - but it do not mean i play trash character.
Meta is some guy promotion, and useless race is useless race.
Now any character you take will be better than nord in everything.
Better DD, tank, heal.
It is not about meta it is about useless race.
dude... the very definition of META is the ever changing relations of powers in a game, that includes races. So you cannot go for "Meta is crap, you can do good without Meta gear and rotations" but start arround 3 threads because a new patch shifts your beloved races out of the meta.
i bet my 2 nord main characters that i can do just fine after the new patch rolls arround, as i do now (since my main is healer nord and that is definitly NOT meta)
Edit: Rephrasing for understanding
Dude:
My skills was broken more than a year.
Moltan armaments was not working for a year.
The skill they fix now did not work more than 1.5 year correct.
Meta - not meta, do not care.
Class is not balanced and is useless.
Skills do not work correct.
Is it meta, is not it meta - Skills must work, game must be balanced !!!
If it is not - change it !
Not CP, not race passives. Changes thingth that do not work.
Now we get more problems than we had before.
Why i must play race that skills i do not like ? If you change it, make rerace possible for it.
I choise race with skills i like not this ... useless race.
If you like it play it. I did not chouse this skills, i choise another. Can i get it ?
If no can i get another skills ?
The same for vMA stuff.
Farmed it 100*2 times + to get stuff.
The same useless content.
If you make some thing farm in it better with the same conditions to get and do not change it, why do you change other thingth.
It is double standarts.
Edited by AyaDark on January 28, 2021 1:06PM0 -
Troodon80✭✭✭✭✭
✭Nord is still on top for resistances overall compared to any other race and they still have the best ultimate generation.
If you make some assumptions about the ultimate (the numbers are not exact):
Light attacking 3/s
Minor Heroism 0.6
Nord 0.5
Mountain's Blessing/Necrotic Potency/Soul Harvest (slotted, not used)+Catalyst/etc. class passives 0.5~1
This gets to around 4.5~5. Take into account that Imperial gets a cheaper ultimate, but remove the 0.5, it takes ~3 seconds longer to use Warhorn as Imperial. That's without any sets like Dead-Water, Hide of the Werewolf, Bloodspawn, Arkasis, etc. But Imperials don't get the resistances and 2k is still better than some extra sustain via cost reduction that you shouldn't be struggling with anyway if you're playing the role/class right. There is no way, right now, that I would change any of my Nord characters. Why, as a tank, would you want lower warhorn and less resistances by going Imperial? You have it backwards. Imperial is the budget Nord at the moment so far as tanking goes.Edited by Troodon80 on January 28, 2021 1:32PM@Troodon80 PC | EU
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AyaDark✭✭✭✭✭Nord is still on top for resistances overall compared to any other race and they still have the best ultimate generation.
If you make some assumptions about the ultimate (the numbers are not exact):
Light attacking 3/s
Minor Heroism 0.6
Nord 0.5
Mountain's Blessing/Necrotic Potency/Soul Harvest (slotted, not used)+Catalyst/etc. class passives 0.5~1
This gets to around 4.5~5. Take into account that Imperial gets a cheaper ultimate, but remove the 0.5, it takes ~3 seconds longer to use Warhorn as Imperial. That's without any sets like Dead-Water, Hide of the Werewolf, Bloodspawn, Arkasis, etc. But Imperials don't get the resistances and 2k is still better than some extra sustain via cost reduction that you shouldn't be struggling with anyway if you're playing the role/class right. There is no way, right now, that I would change any of my Nord characters. Why, as a tank, would you want lower warhorn and less resistances by going Imperial? You have it backwards. Imperial is the budget Nord at the moment so far as tanking goes.
All is really simple.
You can get sustain/def
Or HP / resources.
For DD nord is not good.
For tank:
What is better 1000 hp or 1500 def ?
The same for DD.
Tank is good if it have good combination of defense, hp ,pools and sustain.
If you get correct parametrs you get good tank.
2900 def can not be compared as example to 2000 stamina gain per 10 seconds, becouse it give you ability to permablock easely.
And this 2900 k def tank can easely get different way.
If you do not get ease resist 32500, you will need make it by what ? Gear, mundus and etc.
So you need change each part of gear to get best value. Before this you must not
If you need do that much it is more simple to get better race with better abilities.
If ineed change gear for nord and emperial as example i will take those, whoes skills are better.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭WrathOfInnos wrote: »Most of the changes to racial passives were helpful to balance, and long overdue. Imperial buff was needed, Bosmer buff was needed, Khajiit buff was needed, Redguard buff was needed.
Argonian nerf doesn’t make sense to me. They still have no damage, and now get worse sustain.
Nord change was pretty small compared to some of the others, lost 1360 armor and gained 2310 frost resistance. It’s a nerf, but not much of one. There’s no reason to race change over it, they’re still tough and have the best ultimate gen of any race.
Agree, Argonians are already one of the worst race (passive wise) and now they will be less than worse... Pretty much an RP meme at this point. Sustain is terrible, they have no dmg potenial and almost no healing potenial... Orcs will be better healers lol...
With this nerf to potion passive they will be even bad for a tank role... What a mess...0
