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ZOS must let us change companion's race
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After watching the super brief companions reveal, “yeah companions, stuff etc..., moving on!”. I’m still wondering - WHY? If you wanna kill a world boss and can’t solo it a few /z cries for assist will usually do the job. Maybe it’s an RP follower Fallout, Baldur's Gate etc thing with meaningful emotional relationships evolving. Or maybe it’s a chance to sell followers for crowns as mini quest line starters. Just very confused about why you’d need a follower in a MMORPG surely this will deter people from interacting with others further. Meh, it’s better than a slap in the face so will wait and see. I’m expecting RP dolls you can dress up and do 2dps like quest NPC support.0 -
CMDR_Un1k0rn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Want dark sexy succubus platinum blond companion !!!
Need more companions like this
Good person, the term you are looking for is Dark Seducer.
In-game username: Un1korn | Happy member of the PCNA UESP guild (Resident Daggerfall Covenant enjoyer) | Main & basically only character: Crucian Vulpin, Imperial Dragonknight of the Daggerfall Covenant, and Undaunted Bulwark (I tank) | Mountain bike enjoyer and vulpine appreciator | If you know me from PCEU: No | To ZOS: THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BRING MY HORSE INTO BATTLE!5 -
AcadianPaladin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I think the variety will come from the gradual introduction of more companions. And I'm delighted to see it.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with playing this game solo - it is reasonably solo friendly and, frankly, games like Skyrim and Oblivion are absolutely tiny and easy to outgrow compared to the massive scale offered in ESO. Reducing interactions among players? How do I do that with a friends list of 0 and 95% of my time spent as a happy soloist. The game works fine for soloists as well as those who enjoy grouping and interacting with other players. Group play is no more or less valid than solo play. Don't care for companions? Don't use them.PC NA(no Steam), PvE, mostly solo5 -
Ghanima_Atreides✭✭✭✭✭
✭What I hope for more is that the names are placeholders and not final; neither Bastian nor Mary (?!) are appropriate for an Imperial or Dunmer character, respectively. Especially Mary.
Which is weird, because the game is otherwise good at using lore-friendly names for NPCs.Edited by Ghanima_Atreides on January 27, 2021 1:21PM[The Beauty of Tamriel] My collection of ESO screenshots
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MasterSpatula✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Must they?
Also, no."A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle0 -
Raideen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Daemons_Bane wrote: »Daemons_Bane wrote: »Must.? People are using that word much too often, when in reality what they really mean is "I want"..
That is not for you to determine.
Absolutely not but the 2 things are very different.. and when people on the forum say "need", in 95% of the cases we are talking about a "want"
Again, that is not for you to determine. It is not your business, job, career, position or anything else to determine what is a "need" or a "want" for another person.3 -
Raideen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Daemons_Bane wrote: »Must.? People are using that word much too often, when in reality what they really mean is "I want"..
That is not for you to determine.
Well it's not like a meteor or super volcano is going to doom us all if the race change isn't offered. So not really a need but a want. Meaning must is a bit over the top.
The outcome is irrelevant and has no bearing on what a person decides is a need or a want. That is an individual determination, not something you nor anyone else can determine.1 -
adriant1978✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭GrimTheReaper45 wrote: »I think a few more would be cool. Like only 2 options?
I'm sure they are testing the waters to see how popular they are. If enough people use them, there will be more in the Crown Store and (sadly) probably in Crown Crates too.3 -
Daemons_Bane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Daemons_Bane wrote: »Daemons_Bane wrote: »Must.? People are using that word much too often, when in reality what they really mean is "I want"..
That is not for you to determine.
Absolutely not but the 2 things are very different.. and when people on the forum say "need", in 95% of the cases we are talking about a "want"
Again, that is not for you to determine. It is not your business, job, career, position or anything else to determine what is a "need" or a "want" for another person.
I thought I made it clear enough, but ok we try again.. a need is a necessity, like breathing to survive.. like having to fuel your car to get it moving.. that the OP desires a change, is not a need.. it is him/her WANTING it..5 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭They can do the same they did to Lyris in greymoor. Eevryone else's lyris was turned into a Solitude guard when questing.
On the other hand, that would be impractical for roleplaying groups, if you detailedly choose your companion's clothing or armor and all that and then the other players can't see your npc the way you customized it.
I just wonder when roleplaying changed from adventuring to a fashion and conversion club - that isn't role playing as I know it. Tbh it is really disgusting to see the (d)evolution from pen&paper to these kind of role play, which isn't any near to what it once was.Edited by Lysette on January 27, 2021 4:13PM2 -
Lugaldu✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I just wonder when roleplaying changed from adventuring to a fashion and conversion club - that isn't role playing as I know it. Tbh it is really disgusting to see the (d)evolution from pen&paper to these kind of role play, which isn't any near to what it once was.
Once everything happened in your imagination with your own pictures in your head, today unfortunately everything is visually pre-prepared. I miss that times.
Edited by Lugaldu on January 27, 2021 4:25PM0 -
Raideen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Daemons_Bane wrote: »Daemons_Bane wrote: »Daemons_Bane wrote: »Must.? People are using that word much too often, when in reality what they really mean is "I want"..
That is not for you to determine.
Absolutely not but the 2 things are very different.. and when people on the forum say "need", in 95% of the cases we are talking about a "want"
Again, that is not for you to determine. It is not your business, job, career, position or anything else to determine what is a "need" or a "want" for another person.
I thought I made it clear enough, but ok we try again.. a need is a necessity, like breathing to survive.. like having to fuel your car to get it moving.. that the OP desires a change, is not a need.. it is him/her WANTING it..
I thought I made it clean enough, but ok we try again. A need is determined by the person, not you, not me, not anyone else but by the individual.
Breathing is not a need, but it is to survive.
Fuel for a car is not a need, but it is to drive it.
Customizable names for an NPC is not a need, but it is for someone who wants to continue playing the game in order to maintain immersion.
NEED is relative to the individual.4 -
magnusthorek✭✭✭✭✭
✭The only reason that would make race change for Companions a must for me is, besides best race for the role thing, if I need one which role is played by a despicable Altmer.
I am the very model of a scientist Salarian, I've studied species Turian, Asari, and Batarian.
I'm quite good at genetics (as a subset of biology) because I am an expert (which I know is a tautology).
My xenoscience studies range from urban to agrarian, I am the very model of a Scientist Salarian.0 -
Daemons_Bane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Daemons_Bane wrote: »Daemons_Bane wrote: »Daemons_Bane wrote: »Must.? People are using that word much too often, when in reality what they really mean is "I want"..
That is not for you to determine.
Absolutely not but the 2 things are very different.. and when people on the forum say "need", in 95% of the cases we are talking about a "want"
Again, that is not for you to determine. It is not your business, job, career, position or anything else to determine what is a "need" or a "want" for another person.
I thought I made it clear enough, but ok we try again.. a need is a necessity, like breathing to survive.. like having to fuel your car to get it moving.. that the OP desires a change, is not a need.. it is him/her WANTING it..
I thought I made it clean enough, but ok we try again. A need is determined by the person, not you, not me, not anyone else but by the individual.
Breathing is not a need, but it is to survive.
Fuel for a car is not a need, but it is to drive it.
Customizable names for an NPC is not a need, but it is for someone who wants to continue playing the game in order to maintain immersion.
NEED is relative to the individual.
You'll not listen, so I jump off here.. let people say need when they mean want6 -
Raideen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Daemons_Bane wrote: »Daemons_Bane wrote: »Daemons_Bane wrote: »Daemons_Bane wrote: »Must.? People are using that word much too often, when in reality what they really mean is "I want"..
That is not for you to determine.
Absolutely not but the 2 things are very different.. and when people on the forum say "need", in 95% of the cases we are talking about a "want"
Again, that is not for you to determine. It is not your business, job, career, position or anything else to determine what is a "need" or a "want" for another person.
I thought I made it clear enough, but ok we try again.. a need is a necessity, like breathing to survive.. like having to fuel your car to get it moving.. that the OP desires a change, is not a need.. it is him/her WANTING it..
I thought I made it clean enough, but ok we try again. A need is determined by the person, not you, not me, not anyone else but by the individual.
Breathing is not a need, but it is to survive.
Fuel for a car is not a need, but it is to drive it.
Customizable names for an NPC is not a need, but it is for someone who wants to continue playing the game in order to maintain immersion.
NEED is relative to the individual.
You'll not listen, so I jump off here.. let people say need when they mean want
It is NOT your decision or right to determine what someone else constitutes as a NEED or a WANT.
It is NOT your decision or right to determine or define the meaning of what someone else says.
The OP stated "must" in the title. For them, being able to name their companion could be game breaking...we don't know, but its not my job, nor yours, nor anyone's to define the meaning behind the OP's post....only they can do that. If they determine they NEED to name their NPC's to keep playing, that is for them to decide.
And frankly, I completely agree with them. If we can change the outfit, the weapons, the armor etc...why not the name? Why not allow that companion to truly belong to the player. Not some random NPC that EVERYONE has. I mean the OP's desire makes more sense than what is going to be released.
Every quest in game refers to the player in some heroic term, Prisoner, Vestige, Numinous etc. It would not be hard to also make the quest dialog reflect the same types of words when we address our companion.
It's already lame that every merchant and banker looks the same. This will be that on steroids. I mean come on man, it does not take much imagination to see where this is going. The op is right, spot on, 100% correct.
EDIT: Bottom line, let the OP have their opinion, just like you expect us to listen to yours.Edited by Raideen on January 27, 2021 4:45PM1 -
devaneiosonho✭✭✭It is NOT your decision or right to determine what someone else constitutes as a NEED or a WANT.
It is NOT your decision or right to determine or define the meaning of what someone else says.
The OP stated "must" in the title. For them, being able to name their companion could be game breaking...we don't know, but its not my job, nor yours, nor anyone's to define the meaning behind the OP's post....only they can do that. If they determine they NEED to name their NPC's to keep playing, that is for them to decide.
And frankly, I completely agree with them. If we can change the outfit, the weapons, the armor etc...why not the name? Why not allow that companion to truly belong to the player. Not some random NPC that EVERYONE has. I mean the OP's desire makes more sense than what is going to be released.
Every quest in game refers to the player in some heroic term, Prisoner, Vestige, Numinous etc. It would not be hard to also make the quest dialog reflect the same types of words when we address our companion.
It's already lame that every merchant and banker looks the same. This will be that on steroids. I mean come on man, it does not take much imagination to see where this is going. The op is right, spot on, 100% correct.
EDIT: Bottom line, let the OP have their opinion, just like you expect us to listen to yours.
It is if you want to be objective. Subjective needs and wants are nothing to be discussed about, as it could be considered just a want. There's a whole discussion out there going on even today about needs and wants, but only if you're into philosophy. Buuut ZOS most certainly does NOT need to let us change races. They can lose players either way, so there's no real discussion to be had here. They NEED to, otherwise OP will quit? They NEED to NOT let us change, otherwise other players will quit? Subjective needs are just a waste of time to be discussed about.
Edited by devaneiosonho on January 27, 2021 4:59PM2 -
Raideen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭devaneiosonho wrote: »It is NOT your decision or right to determine what someone else constitutes as a NEED or a WANT.
It is NOT your decision or right to determine or define the meaning of what someone else says.
The OP stated "must" in the title. For them, being able to name their companion could be game breaking...we don't know, but its not my job, nor yours, nor anyone's to define the meaning behind the OP's post....only they can do that. If they determine they NEED to name their NPC's to keep playing, that is for them to decide.
And frankly, I completely agree with them. If we can change the outfit, the weapons, the armor etc...why not the name? Why not allow that companion to truly belong to the player. Not some random NPC that EVERYONE has. I mean the OP's desire makes more sense than what is going to be released.
Every quest in game refers to the player in some heroic term, Prisoner, Vestige, Numinous etc. It would not be hard to also make the quest dialog reflect the same types of words when we address our companion.
It's already lame that every merchant and banker looks the same. This will be that on steroids. I mean come on man, it does not take much imagination to see where this is going. The op is right, spot on, 100% correct.
EDIT: Bottom line, let the OP have their opinion, just like you expect us to listen to yours.
It is if you want to be objective. Subjective needs and wants are nothing to be discussed about, as it could be considered just a want. There's a whole discussion out there going on even today about needs and wants, but only if you're into philosophy. Buuut ZOS most certainly does NOT need to let us change races. They can lose players either way, so there's no real discussion to be had here. They NEED to, otherwise OP will quit? They NEED to NOT let us change, otherwise other players will quit? Subjective needs are just a waste of time to be discussed about.
Funny thing is, the OP never used the word need. They used "must", I personally read it in jest but it was a number, quite a few actually of other folks in this thread who decided to interject their own context and dog pile the OP for simply expressing their desires.
Why so much anger because someone expressed their desires?
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Vanya✭✭✭✭✭I dont see a point of companions characters are already insanely OP but I believe there should be many features to RP with your companion or engage in other ways too ,still not sure what to think off it, I imagine similar approach as it was in SWTOR1
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devaneiosonho✭✭✭
Funny thing is, the OP never used the word need. They used "must", I personally read it in jest but it was a number, quite a few actually of other folks in this thread who decided to interject their own context and dog pile the OP for simply expressing their desires.
Why so much anger because someone expressed their desires?
Yeah, people usually get heated over nothing.
I, too, would like to be able to customize them, and I don't understand why anyone would be against it. Even if only to change the name of the dark elf. Like, really? Mary? Jesus. It's just an option, so people need to chill.0 -
Everstorm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Wonder if you can make them a vampire/werewolf. Bastion sounds too holier than thou but the dunmer might want to...0 -
Tigertron✭✭✭✭My Argonian tank can't wait to put the screws to that Dark Elf b.... eh c o m p a n i o n.
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Thannazzar✭✭✭✭✭
✭Bastion will be getting a skeleton skin and be my Necro's permanent Minion!Edited by Thannazzar on January 27, 2021 6:44PM0 -
Nyladreas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Why race change and basically FREE range of customisations really matters in case of followers:
Cause if it everyone gets the same followers then EVERYONE WILL LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME GOD-DAMNED WAY AND IT'LL BE HORRID.
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Klad✭✭✭✭To quote Khan: My firends...you are not in a position to demand... anything
Edited by Klad on January 27, 2021 6:47PM0 -
AlienMagi✭✭✭volkeswagon wrote: »They must eh?"Must"
Oh reealllyy?MasterSpatula wrote: »Must they?
Also, no.
Yes guys, they MUST if you dont want to see thousands of clones in every city. Didnt you read the context in my post?
I dont see the point in playing word games, also im not a native english speaker so get off my back please, thanks.0 -
ArchMikem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'm personally not going to use them. They're unnecessary outside of people wanting to solo Dungeons or new players needing aid while questing.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA One Star General - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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