Olupajmibanan wrote: »

I was the one spending hours learning the mechanics and training, not my character. I deserve the title!!!!! And I want to show MY title, so I should be able to display it on any of my characters because all my characters are me.

And with that argument, every alt you create should start at your highest characters level CP 810+ or whichever in your case.

Olupajmibanan wrote: »

Sidonius wrote: »

Olupajmibanan wrote: »

I was the one spending hours learning the mechanics and training, not my character. I deserve the title!!!!! And I want to show MY title, so I should be able to display it on any of my characters because all my characters are me.

And with that argument, every alt you create should start at your highest characters level CP 810+ or whichever in your case.

Actually, that is the situation right now to some extent. All new characters start with full CPs and can spend them and benefit from them even at lvl 1. Only item level is limited, but you are freed from the limitation after few hours (usually 3-4) of levelling from 1 to 50.

After levelling to 50, you simply pull out gear of your bank you previously farmed on your max level character, then buy skill lines with gold you also previously earned on your max level character and you are free to go to a trial. All in one day.

You can't buy skill lines with gold.... they're not giftable.

Only purchasable with your own personal crowns.

If you want an overview on character select that shows you which achievements you have gotten across all characters, sure. Go ahead.

But I still want to be able to get repeat achievements on alts and be able to see what they have and haven't completed by quickly looking at their achievement page, as I can do now.

Fischblut wrote: »

I love account-wide achivs and titles in GW2 - no matter what character I play, they all contribute to the same goal I'm never punished if I'm not in the mood to play my main character there - every little alt becomes just as important.
In fact, this allows me to change main characters at will; I barely play my original main character there nowadays, and my alt became my new main character few months ago

I would absolutely love to have this in ESO too, and there is no reason to deny us this option. I really hope for it in future

But achievements in GW2 are 1000x grindier than they are in ESO.

If ESO went the way of GW2, they'd have to revamp achivements upwards by A LOT.

Loot 1000 chests? LOL! Try 10,000.

Kill 300 spriggans? Start at 3,000 and then we can talk (that will be level 1 of that achievement, there will be 5 tiers)

All the vet dungeon achievements for killing mobs will be multiplied by at least 10.

Sticker book will be added to the achievement list and you need to get all sets in a zone completed for an achievement for that zone.

That's the kind of thing GW2 does. Do you REALLY want that in ESO?

GW2 was designed from the beginning for account-wide achievements and the achievements reflect that. If ESO truly went account-wide and not just added an overview, like Kyoma's does, then they would have to revamp the achievements and make them a lot grindier.

So you think getting the TRIFECTA achievements is going to be easier? They will add an achievement to get it with EACH CLASS. And then add an umbrella achievement for when you got it with all classes.

joerginger wrote: »

The developers really should take a look at Guild Wars 2 to see how this is done properly. When they're there, they could also try to find out what an "event" can be in contrast to the horribly dry "get slightly more loot" things that are named "event" in this game.

The best thing about GW2 events is that they can be ignored. Though I'm dreading the Super Adventure Box, because we need music boxes for the guild hall. Ugh.

Ah, the monthly Achievement debate. Right on schedule. This is like, 5 years running now?

It just boils down to perception. Either the Player is earning achievements or the Character is.

And since the Player isn't gaining anything, its the Character that earns the Achievement. Why would a New Character carry a title of Master crafter? The examples are endless.

Now, what make sense would be to have a Central tab that would keep track of all the Achievements each Character got, and
could show the Player which Character has Which titles.

IMHO

Add in the actual account-wide homeowner titles of "Lord," "Chancellor," "Clan Father" and "Count" (used male honorific simply for brevity) to the discussion, and it gets even grayer ...

I mean ... my level 1 "Lord XYZ" leaving the starting area wearing scruffy clothes and a single 2h sword on his back makes just as much sense as the rest of the dividing lines here.

Player vs. Character debate ... comes down to personal preference I guess.

EDIT: I recant my example as the character can't get the title until they visit the estate, but that is a one-click teleport from the starting area.

I would love this. I don’t understand why people are against it. Who cares if a character has a title next to their name? They may not have completed it with that specific character but they did complete it with a character on their account. There’s plenty more to be concerned about in this game then a title next to someone’s name.

Sirona_Starr wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

I'd vote no on that if I could, the achievements on other characters is for me a large part of even playing that other character. If they became accountwide, and you completed them all, a HUGE motivation for playing another character vanishes.

Besides, I'd feel it unjust wearing a title I earned on another character but the one that could do whatever the title included. Like wearing Flawless Conqueror , on a char that cant finish round 3 on regular MA... The cosmetics, even the armors and weapons earned, sure fair enough as someone said, you can always loan out your hat, but never an earned title.

Isn't it a little unjust, then, to use the cp you earned on all characters? Shouldn't every character have their own, individual cp level? .... following your logic... Seems to me "unearned" cp on alts is a bigger issue than a title. Accountwide doesn't mean you couldn't earn the achievement more than once. They could set it up as recording how many times you got an achievement.

I will start by saying that my characters only get to use CP when they get to level 50. When they are contributing towards the pool, they can earn them.

I will also say that in the past, before CP, we had individual levels and I was fine with that.

That said, the game (and every other MMO out there) has a balance of things that are character-based and things that are account-wide.

Those are design decisions that inform other decisions, like the difficulty of achievements or the amount of time it takes to get to max CP. Games that have account-wide achievements tend to have achievements that are a lot grindier than the ones in ESO. So if ESO decides to go with account-wide achievements (as opposed to an overview of all character's achievements, but each characters still earns them separately), be prepared for the grind to be increased 10-fold at least.