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Rarest hardest most uncommon club
Vanya
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I am interested to know which one of those you would consider to either, hardest to obtain and rarest overall from
Titles
Mounts
Non combat pets
Crafting motifs
Weapons
Armor sets
Houses
Achievements
P.S
Least played race or class/hybrid combo?
Titles
Mounts
Non combat pets
Crafting motifs
Weapons
Armor sets
Houses
Achievements
P.S
Least played race or class/hybrid combo?
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Are we talking earned stuff or purchased stuff?
Because radiant apex mounts kinda take the cake for rare purchased stuff, followed by the crown-exclusive houses that require dropping lots of crowns. If your endgame is showing off all the shiny cosmetics, you'll need to pay ZOS for it.2 -
kargen27✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The trophies achievements are probably the hardest through sheer grind. Took me forever to get an Ogre's Toe Ring to finish that one and I have other trophy achievements I still need a couple of items.
The perfected armor and weapons would be the toughest to get probably. Not sure which one is the toughest though.
The title that took me longest was Master Fisherman. I'm never going to get Emperor as that can be a hard one if you don't have lots of time and guild support.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."1 -
Vanya✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »Are we talking earned stuff or purchased stuff?
Because radiant apex mounts kinda take the cake for rare purchased stuff, followed by the crown-exclusive houses that require dropping lots of crowns. If your endgame is showing off all the shiny cosmetics, you'll need to pay ZOS for it.
Both, more earned has a "higher" value, effort,time,skills,dedication not through pure luck or buying crowns anything can do it,
you seem to be experienced if you have time perhaps provide answers to both?0 -
SgtNuttzmeg✭✭✭✭Titles: Rarity would be some of the titles and skins from the older Vet DLC dungeons. The harder would be the titles from the Newer Trials. Not a lot of people go for the achievements on RoM or CoS anymore. There has also been a lot of turnover since they were popular. So they are kinda rare. However you can pay for clears of most of this so it's kinda meaningless.
Mounts: Sunspire mount.
Non combat pets: Don't think any are "rare", as you can pretty much straight up purchase them all. It's pretty meaningless to base ones success on this.
Crafting motifs: once again meaningless. You can buy any motif in the game. There used to be unique motifs for arena weapons, monster sets, and top tier raiding gear but now this is meaningless.
Weapons: I guess Perfected Arena sets but even then they aren't that hard to grind out.
Armor sets: Once again, not that hard to grind out. Can pretty much pay to have people carry you through any content so this is meaningless.
Houses: Once again kinda meaningless. Psjijic Vilia would be the rarest seeing how much population turnover there has been since that event was going on.
Achievements: Any tied to the titles I talked about before. Godslayer is probably one of the rarest ones.
But so much of this area of the game has been made meaningless. There is no point in following it as you can pretty much spend IRL money, get crowns, trade said crowns, and pay for it all. ESO really has a lot of p2w to it right now. It really sucks.Edited by SgtNuttzmeg on January 22, 2021 12:58AMLegions of Mordor Core
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kargen27✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭"ESO really has a lot of p2w to it right now."
Not to derail the thread but there is nothing pay to win in what you mentioned. Using in game gold to get a group to take you through certain content is not pay to win. Everything else is cosmetic and give no advantage in the game.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."1 -
SgtNuttzmeg✭✭✭✭"ESO really has a lot of p2w to it right now."
Not to derail the thread but there is nothing pay to win in what you mentioned. Using in game gold to get a group to take you through certain content is not pay to win. Everything else is cosmetic and give no advantage in the game.
You can pay for skill shards, levels in guild skill lines and you can pay for clears. You can also pay for upgrading materials. There is an extra step to it but it is still p2w.
That's not even considering the two classes you have to pay extra to get have consistently been top tier since they launched. Think about this: a year or so before the necro class launched ZOS nerfed all sources of Major Defile so that at most you could have a 50% uptime of the debuff. That class has had a 100% uptime of that debuff since it went live.
Don't get me wrong, ESO isn't as bad as BDO or some of the other Eastern MMOs, mainly because it isn't that hard or time consuming to get these things already but it's gotten significantly worse with time.Edited by SgtNuttzmeg on January 22, 2021 1:31AMLegions of Mordor Core
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kargen27✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭SgtNuttzmeg wrote: »"ESO really has a lot of p2w to it right now."
Not to derail the thread but there is nothing pay to win in what you mentioned. Using in game gold to get a group to take you through certain content is not pay to win. Everything else is cosmetic and give no advantage in the game.
You can pay for skill shards, levels in guild skill lines and you can pay for clears. You can also pay for upgrading materials. There is an extra step to it but it is still p2w.
No it isn't. You have to earn those shards and skills on another character first and they are all available in game. Pay to win would be a weapon that did more damage available in crown store only or a mount that is 10% faster available in store only. If it is available in game and can be obtained by resources earned in game only it is not pay to win. Pay to win is when you pay real money to get something that can't otherwise be obtained in game.
Paying for clears is not pay to win. It is simply a different way to achieve a goal. Spend the time learning the trial with guild mates for the clear or spend time earning gold in game to purchase carry. Either way it is achieve in game only.
Edited to say what you describe I would call pay for convenience.Edited by kargen27 on January 22, 2021 1:30AMand then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."6 -
SgtNuttzmeg✭✭✭✭SgtNuttzmeg wrote: »"ESO really has a lot of p2w to it right now."
Not to derail the thread but there is nothing pay to win in what you mentioned. Using in game gold to get a group to take you through certain content is not pay to win. Everything else is cosmetic and give no advantage in the game.
You can pay for skill shards, levels in guild skill lines and you can pay for clears. You can also pay for upgrading materials. There is an extra step to it but it is still p2w.
No it isn't. You have to earn those shards and skills on another character first and they are all available in game. Pay to win would be a weapon that did more damage available in crown store only or a mount that is 10% faster available in store only. If it is available in game and can be obtained by resources earned in game only it is not pay to win. Pay to win is when you pay real money to get something that can't otherwise be obtained in game.
Paying for clears is not pay to win. It is simply a different way to achieve a goal. Spend the time learning the trial with guild mates for the clear or spend time earning gold in game to purchase carry. Either way it is achieve in game only.
Edited to say what you describe I would call pay for convenience.
We could argue on definitions but easier access to stuff and reduction of time commitment is exactly what makes BDO p2w. It's just on a more significant scale. It doesn't matter if you have to do it once. It's about comparing somebody who bought it to somebody who didn't pay for that boost. That's what makes it p2w. I edited my original post while you typed your response so I will reiterate the edit.
"That's not even considering the two classes you have to pay extra to get have consistently been top tier since they launched. Think about this: a year or so before the necro class launched ZOS nerfed all sources of Major Defile so that at most you could have a 50% uptime of the debuff. That class has had a 100% uptime of that debuff since it went live."Legions of Mordor Core
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »Are we talking earned stuff or purchased stuff?
Because radiant apex mounts kinda take the cake for rare purchased stuff, followed by the crown-exclusive houses that require dropping lots of crowns. If your endgame is showing off all the shiny cosmetics, you'll need to pay ZOS for it.
Both, more earned has a "higher" value, effort,time,skills,dedication not through pure luck or buying crowns anything can do it,
you seem to be experienced if you have time perhaps provide answers to both?
Earned stuff that's rare tend to break down into things that take a lot of time and things that take a lot of skill, and some that take both.
The trifecta achievements for PVE trials and the rewards for that qualify as both. Same with some of the PVP challenges in Battlegrounds. They take skill and a lot of practice to be skilled enough to accomplish those feats.
Others demonstrate time and dedication to a task, like Grand Overlord, Master Angler, the collector achievements, and dyes like Contraband Violet. Even Emperor, while it can be cheesed to an extent, denotes a certain amount of effort that's out of reach of most players in ESO.
In a sense, trying to determine a "club" really comes down to what your club members think is rare and valued. For example, my PVP guild has numerous emperors and several Grand Overlords. Despite that, they were all very congratulatory when I reached the lower rank of Legate, because that comes with the highly coveted Legate Black dye. That dye is a very "black" black color compared to the other black dyes, and so many players want it but few put in the PVP time to get it. A housing guild, on the other hand, might value really fancy houses or they might prefer creative builds that make unique uses of base game materials.
On the other hand, there's some stuff that's just so good, its obvious. When the first group got the Godslayer achievement on console, everyone was delighted for them.Edited by VaranisArano on January 22, 2021 3:59AM0 -
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✭✭SgtNuttzmeg wrote: »Weapons: I guess Perfected Arena sets but even then they aren't that hard to grind out.
Armor sets: Once again, not that hard to grind out. Can pretty much pay to have people carry you through any content so this is meaningless.
It's not just about being carried through - there's intense RNG involved. Some set pieces just refuse to drop. This even includes easy overland sets - and buying them doesn't always work, either, even with lots of gold, because nobody has them to sell.
I wonder if anyone has them all yet...1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I am interested to know which one of those you would consider to either, hardest to obtain and rarest overall from
Titles
Mounts
Non combat pets
Crafting motifs
Weapons
Armor sets
Houses
Achievements
P.S
Least played race or class/hybrid combo?- Godslayer or Gryphon Heart (idk)
- The loyalty reward Senche or some Radiant Apex
- A pig that was given away at an event in the first year of ESO or the Eerie Violet Bantam Guar (also called Purple Guar)
- Grim Harlequin or Tsaesci Akaviri
- Either an unbound dungeon set weapon (yes, those exist and I got one) or one from a set that shouldn't drop them, like a dagger for a set exclusive to bows.
- Unbound Dungeon set (yes, I got one of those too. A robe of the Wormcult).
- The ugliest manor sized home, aka the one that has been bought the least amount.
- Aside from the associated achievements for Godslayer and Gryphon Heart, probably Master Fisher or Black Market Mogul because of the grind.
Least played race-class combo is Imperial on a Warden judging from how fast you get the "kill X players with class Y" achievement or quest in PvP.
Note how most of this is due to crownstore purchases being involved.This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.0 -
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✭Title - Godslayer, Dawnbringer or Gryphon Heart
Mount - Probably some radiant mount? I see more and more godslayer mounts these days
non combat - The beta test monkey, not sure really
crafting motif - These never really stay rare but I'd probably say one of the crown store motifs
Weapon - I think there's a few legacy weapons out there like Trueflame etc
Armour - Not idea are their legacy armours?
House - Eh
Title - Probably one of the Trial trifectas
Class/combo - I rarely see Stamina Templars these days
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✭✭SgtNuttzmeg wrote: »"ESO really has a lot of p2w to it right now."
Not to derail the thread but there is nothing pay to win in what you mentioned. Using in game gold to get a group to take you through certain content is not pay to win. Everything else is cosmetic and give no advantage in the game.
You can pay for skill shards, levels in guild skill lines and you can pay for clears. You can also pay for upgrading materials. There is an extra step to it but it is still p2w.
No it isn't. You have to earn those shards and skills on another character first and they are all available in game. Pay to win would be a weapon that did more damage available in crown store only or a mount that is 10% faster available in store only. If it is available in game and can be obtained by resources earned in game only it is not pay to win. Pay to win is when you pay real money to get something that can't otherwise be obtained in game.
Paying for clears is not pay to win. It is simply a different way to achieve a goal. Spend the time learning the trial with guild mates for the clear or spend time earning gold in game to purchase carry. Either way it is achieve in game only.
Edited to say what you describe I would call pay for convenience.
Yup, if I have the choice to get an item with either my wallet or my time spent, it's just pay to skip. But if it is ONLY available to players via wallet, and not available to players by spending their time to earn it, then it could be considered pay to win....because once you PAY you WIN.
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✭✭✭Stormproof, Flawless Conqueror and the equivalent vVateshran titles are hard and they mean something. Uncommon? Probably not especially.0
