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Its time to say... NERF CRAFTING DAILY WRITS
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iksde✭✭✭✭If they nerf the gold reward from Daily writs they should do the same with all Daily quests. That said if you did get your way and they nerfed the gold reward, prepare for a bumping up of prices for items on guild stores as players try to make up for their lost profit, I have seen it before in SWTOR they raised the credit sink tax on their global auction house most sellers adjusted their prices to compensate for the lost profits.
Its not free gold it takes considerable gold and time investment to get to the point where you have a large number of characters with all 7 crafts maxed out and fully leveled to get that max gold quest reward value on each character.
yes it is free gold because your cost of dailys are always refunded in just mats rewards and additional profit if you will get additional rewards as gold mats, writs
what was proposse it was jsut or nerf for gold reward from daily crafts - I will have no problem if that was also for other daily quests but for here....daily quests like for delves, WB's etc are giving you 2x less gold in reward than craft dailys which are far faster then getting into delve, WB and doing your job
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if people dont want this nerf then raise taxes from selling items in guidl stores and vendors
we dont need both of these at once tbh but one of these things whould come or other gold sink becasue currently we have to many ways getting gold from not selling to players and not so much of gold sinks0 -
iksde✭✭✭✭Kiralyn2000 wrote: »heh, funny how people defend gold from this
You all alredy have profit from mats from these dailys, OP is right with to much gold being added into game with these dailys with so many players and their character
wanna gold? just sell these mats
I don't sell anything. (well, except to vendors, but mats aren't worth much there)
Crafting writs is the only major gold I make. And I spend nearly all of it on furniture & houses.
(because I also don't buy anything from other players)
from all these writs you are definitelly not on minus from rewards, sell trash and some basic mats and for minimum you are on 0, get an gold material which wont be just single if you are doing on few characters and you have pure profit from this without gold in reward from these writs with not to mention for additional craft writs you can get it which can make you evenhigher profit by doing just crafts
you know what happens in real life when you cut off the money supply... you get massive stagnation and economic collapse... right? This is HS economics...
Who cares how much stuff you have (gold mats), if nobody has any gold to buy them, then you can't sell them for anything, and your entire premise collapses.
and now we have just to much money which is 1st step already ongoing as raising prices on selling items for which not everyone have access to farm easily to keep them in cheap price
so or find sweet spot and cut in pure gold profit or add new gold sink or refresh existing making it an actual worth gold sink0 -
Kiralyn2000✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Kiralyn2000 wrote: »heh, funny how people defend gold from this
You all alredy have profit from mats from these dailys, OP is right with to much gold being added into game with these dailys with so many players and their character
wanna gold? just sell these mats
I don't sell anything. (well, except to vendors, but mats aren't worth much there)
Crafting writs is the only major gold I make. And I spend nearly all of it on furniture & houses.
(because I also don't buy anything from other players)
from all these writs you are definitelly not on minus from rewards, sell trash and some basic mats and for minimum you are on 0, get an gold material which wont be just single if you are doing on few characters and you have pure profit from this without gold in reward from these writs with not to mention for additional craft writs you can get it which can make you evenhigher profit by doing just crafts
What does a gold mat give you when you sell it to a vendor? Never tried. But I'd be surprised if it was more than 10-100g.
Not a lot of "profit", especially when a good week at the Luxury Furniture dealer can set you back 100k+.2 -
iksde✭✭✭✭Kiralyn2000 wrote: »Kiralyn2000 wrote: »heh, funny how people defend gold from this
You all alredy have profit from mats from these dailys, OP is right with to much gold being added into game with these dailys with so many players and their character
wanna gold? just sell these mats
I don't sell anything. (well, except to vendors, but mats aren't worth much there)
Crafting writs is the only major gold I make. And I spend nearly all of it on furniture & houses.
(because I also don't buy anything from other players)
from all these writs you are definitelly not on minus from rewards, sell trash and some basic mats and for minimum you are on 0, get an gold material which wont be just single if you are doing on few characters and you have pure profit from this without gold in reward from these writs with not to mention for additional craft writs you can get it which can make you evenhigher profit by doing just crafts
What does a gold mat give you when you sell it to a vendor? Never tried. But I'd be surprised if it was more than 10-100g.
Not a lot of "profit", especially when a good week at the Luxury Furniture dealer can set you back 100k+.
wow, I didn't even considered there would someone who can interpret to seel something like this to vendor instead in guild store so like with all other possible mats
and luxury vendor isn't the best gold sink, it is more gold sink for players who own tons of gold already rather than for many average players when we will get item for 50k, 100k for single furniture0 -
spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Stuff on console is pretty cheap with far less bots but plenty of writs being done. The economy on pc is more expensive than on console, where there more bots and also plenty of writs being done.
I know, the difference is the writ rewards. Definitely not bots.5 -
Kiralyn2000✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Kiralyn2000 wrote: »Kiralyn2000 wrote: »heh, funny how people defend gold from this
You all alredy have profit from mats from these dailys, OP is right with to much gold being added into game with these dailys with so many players and their character
wanna gold? just sell these mats
I don't sell anything. (well, except to vendors, but mats aren't worth much there)
Crafting writs is the only major gold I make. And I spend nearly all of it on furniture & houses.
(because I also don't buy anything from other players)
from all these writs you are definitelly not on minus from rewards, sell trash and some basic mats and for minimum you are on 0, get an gold material which wont be just single if you are doing on few characters and you have pure profit from this without gold in reward from these writs with not to mention for additional craft writs you can get it which can make you evenhigher profit by doing just crafts
What does a gold mat give you when you sell it to a vendor? Never tried. But I'd be surprised if it was more than 10-100g.
Not a lot of "profit", especially when a good week at the Luxury Furniture dealer can set you back 100k+.
wow, I didn't even considered there would someone who can interpret to seel something like this to vendor instead in guild store
Even though the post you responded to, I said that I don't sell to other players, only to NPC vendors?
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✭✭✭BrownChicken wrote: »YandereGirlfriend wrote: »Sounds to me like someone is envious of players who do their writs.
In truth, I was expecting someone to say something like that. In fact, I do these dailies every day for 9 characters.
In that case i have an easy solution to this problem. How about if we just nerf daily writs on your account? Then everyone is happy!9 -
Eedat✭✭✭✭✭BrownChicken wrote: »That's 4.6k gold per day from 1 character and 50k per day if you have 9 characters.
That math gets a no from me
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BackStabeth✭✭✭✭✭what was proposse it was jsut or nerf for gold reward from daily crafts - I will have no problem if that was also for other daily quests but for here....daily quests like for delves, WB's etc are giving you 2x less gold in reward than craft dailys which are far faster then getting into delve, WB and doing your job
or
if people dont want this nerf then raise taxes from selling items in guidl stores and vendors
we dont need both of these at once tbh but one of these things whould come or other gold sink becasue currently we have to many ways getting gold from not selling to players and not so much of gold sinks
How about we pester ZOS about the many things that re broken that need, and can be fixed and not try to pester them with things that re not broken, that do not need to be fixed?
The ESO economy is a brick house, it functions perfectly without issue. What you call inflation is not, it's market pressures, supply and demand and that sort of thing. Or allow me to put this in a different way for you, so you get it.
The amount of gold you get for doing daily writs is counted on by casual players that don't spend hours a day playing the game. They are sometimes weekend warriors and only log on and do writs to get their mats, gold, etc. Take that away from them then they might just simply leave the game. If they do that, that for sure without any doubts affects the real world finances in regards to ZOS itself. Fewer players, fewer subs, less money coming in and the more expensive everything will get so ZOS can cover their losses due to your horrible idea if it were instituted, where you suggest taking away the tiny bit of gold people get doing daily writs.
I am not sure why you are so hyper focused on this being the issues OP, but it's just simply not true, not the case, not correct or factual in any way at all. TO be blunt, you have absolutely no clue what it is you are talking about, none at all, not even the tiny little slightest bit.2 -
Sheezabeast✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Oh! Next. can we complain about the Alikir Dolmen grinders and the amount of jeweelry and gold and xp they grind?
No?
Ok.then let's just keep on keeping on then.Grand Master Crafter, Beta baby who grew with the game. PC/NA. @Sheezabeast if you have crafting needs!8 -
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✭✭✭✭✭ssewallb14_ESO wrote: »Writs reduce inflation. The mats are more valuable than what you're printing in gold. Tempers would be beyond unaffordable if it weren't for the supply from writs, especially after the recent bot crackdown.
they are illusionally more valuable because there is more gold in game - more gold in game -> higher prices for anything
Except we are not seeing higher prices. We are seeing prices go up and down.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭No, nerfing something like this after so many have benefited from it is a bit too much of that "I got mine, so forget the next guy" mentality. As someone that tries to do their writs, it does take work and it does take material cost (some do not get refunded in rewards, I've often had to buy mats of a couple professions).
But mainly because 99.9% of players asking for anything related to earning or spending gold have zero understanding of how it would actually effect the economy of the game.-- @xaraan --
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Dojohoda✭✭✭✭✭
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GOAT4EVAR✭✭✭I don't agree with the arguement that daily writs are overpowered.
Something i think is a bit silly/dumb is that they sometimes give out 100k gold in the daily login reward. In my mind login rewards should be small simple things, like potions, xp scrolls, pets, cosmetics and mby a mount or so. But never gold.1 -
Pauwer✭✭✭✭✭Ehh, i have only one crafter, i'd never have time to level up the skills on my other toons. And i only do crafting writs maybe 5 times a year, because they're not worth the effort. If i'd get always a gold mat i'd do 'em. So i say buff 'em.2
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Seminolegirl1992✭✭✭✭✭If they nerf the gold reward from Daily writs they should do the same with all Daily quests. That said if you did get your way and they nerfed the gold reward, prepare for a bumping up of prices for items on guild stores as players try to make up for their lost profit, I have seen it before in SWTOR they raised the credit sink tax on their global auction house most sellers adjusted their prices to compensate for the lost profits.
Its not free gold it takes considerable gold and time investment to get to the point where you have a large number of characters with all 7 crafts maxed out and fully leveled to get that max gold quest reward value on each character.
yes it is free gold because your cost of dailys are always refunded in just mats rewards and additional profit if you will get additional rewards as gold mats, writs
what was proposse it was jsut or nerf for gold reward from daily crafts - I will have no problem if that was also for other daily quests but for here....daily quests like for delves, WB's etc are giving you 2x less gold in reward than craft dailys which are far faster then getting into delve, WB and doing your job
or
if people dont want this nerf then raise taxes from selling items in guidl stores and vendors
we dont need both of these at once tbh but one of these things whould come or other gold sink becasue currently we have to many ways getting gold from not selling to players and not so much of gold sinks
not so much gold sink? Housing exists you know :P@Seminolegirl1992 PC/NA CP 2700+ PVE, PVP, RP, Housing: Tel Galen, Fair Winds, Moon Sugar, Grand Psijic, Forsaken, HOTLC, Bastion, Ravenhurst, Gardner, Alinor, Hakkvild's, Gorinir, Kragenhome, Hundings, & more- feel free to come see!Misery's Master | Unstoppable | Mindmender | Swashbuckler Supreme | Planesbreaker | Dawnbringer | Godslayer | Gryphon Heart | Immortal Redeemer | Tick Tock Tormentor | Dro-m'athra Destroyer | Former Empress4 -
Having to load in 9 times for 50k. 50k is chump change. I do daily writs because it's become a routine. Only doing them on five toons I regulate to crafting and banking. More than five daily writs is too many for this guy. Definitely not doing it for the gold. Sure gold mats are nice and all. There's more easy ways to make lots of gold that requires less logging in and out. So sure nerf the 5k gold from writs lol.Edited by BeefcakeManwich on January 10, 2021 1:32AM1
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WiseSky✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Bro if you take my writs away …
I am taking your mouse and keyboard or controller and making your play with a Nintendo classic gamepad8 -
agegarton✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭BrownChicken wrote: »That's 4.6k gold per day from 1 character and 50k per day if you have 9 characters. This is completely unfounded money. Players just make money out of thin air. As a result, we accelerate inflation, which will soon be out of reach. Just remove the gold from the awards. Players are already getting gold materials that they could sell.
Absolute rubbish. You clearly haven’t got the faintest idea what you’re talking about. You heard someone say “crafting writs are a good way to make gold” and you’ve decided you’re now the server-wide expert.
You havent accounted for the effort needed the level up crafting, nor the cost of the mats involved, nor the time needed. Nor have you factored that writs are the only reward for crafters, limited to 7 per days.
Tell you what, let’s limit PVE dailies to 7 per day. Let’s remove gold from the quest rewards. Do undaunted dailies, well you can only have 1 ticket now - after all, surely everyone has loads of tickets by now....?
Or we can all just stop called for nerfs and you can get back under your rock.9 -
TheImperfect✭✭✭✭✭
✭Hard disagree. I'm totally broke most of the time with housing. I'm saving right now to do one of my houses but soon I will be broke again. There's plenty of gold sinks in game.6 -
karthrag_inak✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭BrownChicken wrote: »That's 4.6k gold per day from 1 character and 50k per day if you have 9 characters.
lol. 9 x 4.6 != 50.PC-NA : 19 Khajiit and 1 Fishy-cat with fluffy delusions. cp3600
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Carl-lan✭✭✭✭Why would you do that to make not even 50k gold? There’s so much easier ways to make more money that are more enjoyable. I can barely stand to do one characters crafting writs. How boring.
Go read a book or something.1 -
cyberjanet✭✭✭✭✭My single one and only North American character doesn't have enough crafting materials to do write every day. The recompense from front them doesn't reimburse him fully.Favourite NPC: Wine-For-All
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