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SeñorCinco wrote: »

WitchAngel wrote: »

Horse stamina helps you stay in your saddle when you get attacked. Useful in PvP,

That's what it says but what are the mechanics with that?

Is it a % chance based on your max stamina?
Is it based on the total stamina level that you are currently in ?

Okay guys, if this hasn't been clarified by now I'll clarify it.

If you get hit while your horse has 0 stamina, you will get dismounted and knocked to the ground, starting combat in a stunned state. That's not a good thing. One hit at 0 stamina, knockdown, start combat at disadvantage.

So why you'd invest in stamina points or a stamina horse? So that if you're sprinting it'll take longer to reach 0 stamina, meaning you won't necessarily get one shot off your horse while sprinting. Horses with no stamina investment drain to 0 stamina in a matter of a few seconds of sprinting.

Not only that... but in PVP, unlike PVE, your horse cannot regen stamina while moving. If you have to run from someone chasing you, you risk being waylaid on the road and one shot off your mount. To refill stamina so you might survive a hit before being unhorsed, you have to sit still, or dismiss and recalll your horse (which you can't do in combat)

So stamina is still useful.

They allow you to continue to sprint after the bar drains, because you are doing so at great risk.

This bug makes Cyrodiil less of a pain when running keep to keep. I bought the speed horse because i realised in beta that we could sprint forever. Pretty much making the Stamina horse useless. Most people knew but nobody says anything because everyone likes this "bug"

Arato wrote: »

f you get hit while your horse has 0 stamina, you will get dismounted and knocked to the ground,

I thank you for your explanation but are you saying that as long as you have any stamina left at all, you will not get dismounted?

Can you be dismounted with a full bar?

If two characters have a full bar yet one has more total Stamina than the other, does that prove him to be any more diligent in the saddle than the lesser?

SailorArashi wrote: »

"Feeding your horse hay will increase its stamina, allowing it to sprint longer and take more hits before dismounting."

That tells me that you only get dismounted when your horse's Stamina reaches zero. Therefore every hit depletes the Stamina until it reaches zero. Zero, being that form sprinting and/or being hit, at which point you are thrown to the ground when hit with no Stamina.

SailorArashi wrote: »

The 'sprint longer' implies that there is supposed to be a limit to sprinting. The 'and' tells us that 'sprint longer' is a separate effect from 'take more hits before dismounting'.

I thought that was understood.

My question has been.. do you only get dismounted when you reach zero stamina?

The simple fact of the matter is that sprinting on the horse is supposed to work the same as sprinting on your feet. It just doesn't.

I agree.

Saerydoth wrote: »

The way you explained that, makes me think that infinite sprint is actually intended. It's probably supposed to be that way. It's a tradeoff...you can sprint and go faster, but also be at a HUGE disadvantage if you get hit.

Since there is a negative part to it, it's probably intended.

Yeah I'm pretty sure it's intended, because a 4 second knockdown by ANY hit on a horse that's got an empty green bar is a pretty big deal. In other words if your horse has an empty green bar and you're sprinting, you'd better be on a road, in PVE, or if in PVP, in a group (safety in numbers you know)

if you read the tool tip on the stamina horse at the stables it sorta implies that .. u can sprint for longer ... so shouldnt it mean a non stamina horse should indeed stop sprinting when thier stamina bar is empty ....

im just pointing it out because i feel this is a bug that could cause a lot of qq later in the game if it takes a while to get fixed ...

or could be so generally excepted that they would never intend on fixing it ...

Turelus wrote: »

I thought it was working as intended. :P

I figured that it was meant to run with no stamina but you risked that you could be knocked off in one hit with the stamina all the way down.

i guess my interpretation of the horse tooltip is wrong ... lol na its a bug ... it will be fixed ... eventually ...

but just pissed i spent the 42k gold on a stamina horse ...

altho with medium armour and the sprinting stone and various set piece bonus my char can actually out run a horse so i guess its no biggy i swear people look at me running past them and assume im speed hacking lol

In all seriousness, what I believe that stamina bar is for is the amount of damage you can take before being thrown off your horse. If your bar is low or empty, a single attack can throw you from the horse, when it's full, it's harder to do it. That's my experience anyways.

After paying 42K for a horse yea it should have infinite health

SailorArashi wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

I thought it was working as intended. :P

I figured that it was meant to run with no stamina but you risked that you could be knocked off in one hit with the stamina all the way down.

If that were the case, the tooltip wouldn't say that more stamina lets you sprint for longer.

Or, a revolutionary thought - the tooltip is wrong! Mind boggling, isn't it?

you all know u can feed your horse to make it faster hold more items or give it more stam right?

ominous187 wrote: »

you all know u can feed your horse to make it faster hold more items or give it more stam right?

I apologize but I am compelled to ask why it was felt to be mentioned at this point in the discussion?