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White wabbit
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If Tbagging is against their code of conduct then why is it so rife and with the same players doing it , do they not have a care of duty to look after their players I’m sure Microsoft would do so
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✭✭✭✭✭T-bagging itself is not against the code of conduct. It can cross the line in certain undefined situations but in general it's not.3 -
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✭✭✭✭White wabbit wrote: »If Tbagging is against their code of conduct then why is it so rife and with the same players doing it , do they not have a care of duty to look after their players I’m sure Microsoft would do so
It's a gray area that has been deliberately left so because ZOS does not want to put in the time and effort to police it since it's so prevalent. There are cases where it does technically meet the criteria for harassment, and there are cases where it doesn't; think about the difference between someone reporting a player repeatedly doing it to them as an expression of hostility versus someone who observes the action between other players and reports it when it happened to be a group of friends who all agree that it's funny, doing it to each other for mutual amusement. It's hard to confirm, too, except by chat log, if someone means it to be a nonverbal F U to another player, because invariably even though they do indeed mean that, of course they are going to claim they didn't if there's a chance they'll get into trouble for it. So it's hard to prove unless other evidence (hate whisper, etc) is there. And ZOS would have to hire more people and spend more time dealing with it and why would they ever want to spend more money when they can just make something ambiguous and let the players argue about it.2 -
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✭✭It is if they are repeatedly doing it and have been asked to stop but zos just ignore it1 -
WraithShadow13✭✭✭✭ZOS doesn't care. Plain and Simple. Just look at how toxic the community can get over stuff like vets and pvp. i've yet to hear them do a single thing against those people for ANY sort of harassment or behavior. I'm sure they do or have, i just have no examples. I'm surprised ZOS hasn't gone full EA and made customer service a paid only thing, like SWTOR.0
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✭✭Why is anyone getting worked up enough about tbagging to post about it on the forums? There are many legitimate types of harassment that go on in online games, but someone crouching on your corpse? Really?
People need to grow some thicker skin.11 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Nothing funnier than watching someone wasting time crouching on your corpse get ganked and give you free AP.3 -
alainjbrennanb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭ZOS does not care about it, if you considered this toxic, as they encourage this them self's with certain emotes, like flip the bird etcMain character dk - Vanikifar whitestrike0
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Roztlin45✭✭✭✭✭Laugh at them, and move one. There used to be an add-on that auto respawned you if it bothers you so much.0 -
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✭All the things wrong with this game, and this is what concerns you?“He is even worse than a n'wah. He is - may Vivec forgive me for uttering this word - a Hlaalu.”luv Abnur
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'ate Razum-dar
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If people are doing this then I would question if they are also mature enough to be playing online , people should be able to come online of any age and be able to play in a safe environment, I would say that with a statement like yours you are a person doing said grieving
Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on December 26, 2020 2:27PM3 -
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✭✭Why is anyone getting worked up enough about tbagging to post about it on the forums? There are many legitimate types of harassment that go on in online games, but someone crouching on your corpse? Really?
People need to grow some thicker skin.
So when it’s the same people doing it over and over to you do you nit see this as a form of bullying, thus are the people that should be removed from any online interaction3 -
Husan✭✭✭✭✭White wabbit wrote: »[Quoted post was removed]
If people are doing this then I would question if they are also mature enough to be playing online , people should be able to come online of any age and be able to play in a safe environment, I would say that with a statement like yours you are a person doing said grieving
Agreed on the first part, but disagree on the second part - the game is rated M for mature and online interactions since always were "unsafe". This is the nature of the internet. And the third one is wrong as well, but I see why you would assume that.Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on December 26, 2020 2:27PM2 -
Belegnole✭✭✭✭✭White wabbit wrote: »[Quoted post was removed]
If people are doing this then I would question if they are also mature enough to be playing online , people should be able to come online of any age and be able to play in a safe environment, I would say that with a statement like yours you are a person doing said grieving
Agreed on the first part, but disagree on the second part - the game is rated M for mature and online interactions since always were "unsafe". This is the nature of the internet. And the third one is wrong as well, but I see why you would assume that.
I'm sorry but the mature rating does not include griefing.Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on December 26, 2020 2:28PM0 -
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✭✭White wabbit wrote: »So when it’s the same people doing it over and over to you do you nit see this as a form of bullying, thus are the people that should be removed from any online interaction
Again it is someone crouching on your character's corpse. It has no impact on you whatsoever unless you allow it to.
I'd agree it is silly and immature, but warranting of corretive action or "removal from any online interaction"? Give me a break.
Grow some thicker skin and move on.5 -
Ellimist_Entreri✭✭✭Is T-Bagging really that big a deal? It certainly isn't anything new in online games, especially those with pvp (Halo 1 & Halo 2 it was practically guaranteed you would get T-Bagged every time someone killed you in pvp).
I am sure if they could emote mid-combat they would choose something much more creative! I personally would love to be able to do a dance on my dead enemy before moving on ^_^1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭White wabbit wrote: »[Quoted post was removed]
If people are doing this then I would question if they are also mature enough to be playing online , people should be able to come online of any age and be able to play in a safe environment, I would say that with a statement like yours you are a person doing said grieving
Agreed on the first part, but disagree on the second part - the game is rated M for mature and online interactions since always were "unsafe". This is the nature of the internet. And the third one is wrong as well, but I see why you would assume that.
The M rating (USA) and adult rating (EU) relate yo specific game content, not the players.1 -
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✭If it's wrong to pull a boss over to your friend who just died to a simple mechanic in a trial and have the whole group cleaved while you teabag their corpse then well I don't want to know what's right...3 -
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✭✭Many interpret teabagging as a negative expression. Consider the following:
1. Someone took time out of their valuable day to mock you rather than just ignoring you and moving on.
2. Teabagging is a high APM activity that requires effort.
3. There are entire discussions about teabagging and its importance in game chat, reddit, discord, and these forums.
Teabagging is therefore not a casual or meaningless activity. If you were selected for a teabag by a stranger, you actually got under someone's skin enough that they decided to honor you with their derision. They are emotionally invested in provoking a reaction from you, from which we can infer that you had already provoked a reaction from them that required such a response that required time and effort on their part. You are living in their head. Enjoy that fact the next time it happens to you.
If they are stalking you over and over again, either you really did something to trigger them into such an obsessive display, or they are some sort of sociopath with OCD. Either way, it's not you, it's them. You could pity them, but it's probably better to save your pity for those truly deserving of it, like the economically destitute, diseased, and war torn denizens of this world.
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VampireLordLover99✭✭✭✭White wabbit wrote: »[Quoted post was removed]
If people are doing this then I would question if they are also mature enough to be playing online , people should be able to come online of any age and be able to play in a safe environment, I would say that with a statement like yours you are a person doing said grieving
Agreed on the first part, but disagree on the second part - the game is rated M for mature and online interactions since always were "unsafe". This is the nature of the internet. And the third one is wrong as well, but I see why you would assume that.
I'm sorry but the mature rating does not include griefing.
Pretty sure tbagging isn't griefing. [snip]
[Edited to remove Rude Comments]Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on December 26, 2020 4:16PM0 -
VampireLordLover99✭✭✭✭White wabbit wrote: »So when it’s the same people doing it over and over to you do you nit see this as a form of bullying, thus are the people that should be removed from any online interaction
Again it is someone crouching on your character's corpse. It has no impact on you whatsoever unless you allow it to.
I'd agree it is silly and immature, but warranting of corretive action or "removal from any online interaction"? Give me a break.
Grow some thicker skin and move on.
Exactly. For a mature game the people up in arms about some t-bagging are quite odd.
I've literally never seen another game where people have taken this much offense to such a simple, harmless action.
Yeah, it's a bit immature, but I'd argue the people screeching about this topic need to grow up just as much as the people doing it. If in 2020 you view t bagging in a video game as an issue worth complaining about, then idk what to say but you must be pretty lucky to not have much else to worry about.
Not to mention in ESO there's easily at least 10+ things that are a bigger issue than this.
They're pixels on a screen. Don't wanna see t bagging? Don't play a game that has crouching or go into PvP.4 -
Belegnole✭✭✭✭✭VampireLordLover99 wrote: »White wabbit wrote: »[Quoted post was removed]
If people are doing this then I would question if they are also mature enough to be playing online , people should be able to come online of any age and be able to play in a safe environment, I would say that with a statement like yours you are a person doing said grieving
Agreed on the first part, but disagree on the second part - the game is rated M for mature and online interactions since always were "unsafe". This is the nature of the internet. And the third one is wrong as well, but I see why you would assume that.
I'm sorry but the mature rating does not include griefing.
Pretty sure tbagging isn't griefing. [snip]
Oh my skin is mighty thick and I don't care what others do in general. But, t-bagging is griefing and or bullying period. Whether a player should just ignore it, or just report it and move on is immaterial.Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on December 26, 2020 4:16PM1 -
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Same goes for people who are concerned about others doing it to the point they want ban for them.White wabbit wrote: »[Quoted post was removed]
If people are doing this then I would question if they are also mature enough to be playing online , people should be able to come online of any age and be able to play in a safe environment, I would say that with a statement like yours you are a person doing said grievingEdited by Juhasow on December 26, 2020 3:48PM2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭VampireLordLover99 wrote: »White wabbit wrote: »[Quoted post was removed]
If people are doing this then I would question if they are also mature enough to be playing online , people should be able to come online of any age and be able to play in a safe environment, I would say that with a statement like yours you are a person doing said grieving
Agreed on the first part, but disagree on the second part - the game is rated M for mature and online interactions since always were "unsafe". This is the nature of the internet. And the third one is wrong as well, but I see why you would assume that.
I'm sorry but the mature rating does not include griefing.
Pretty sure tbagging isn't griefing. [snip]
Oh my skin is mighty thick and I don't care what others do in general. But, t-bagging is griefing and or bullying period. Whether a player should just ignore it, or just report it and move on is immaterial.
First sentence here is contradicted by next ones.Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on December 26, 2020 4:17PM5 -
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✭✭VampireLordLover99 wrote: »White wabbit wrote: »[Quoted post was removed]
If people are doing this then I would question if they are also mature enough to be playing online , people should be able to come online of any age and be able to play in a safe environment, I would say that with a statement like yours you are a person doing said grieving
Agreed on the first part, but disagree on the second part - the game is rated M for mature and online interactions since always were "unsafe". This is the nature of the internet. And the third one is wrong as well, but I see why you would assume that.
I'm sorry but the mature rating does not include griefing.
Pretty sure tbagging isn't griefing. [snip]
If it isn’t grief that what would you call it a sign of affectionEdited by ZOS_ConnorG on December 26, 2020 4:17PM0 -
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Same goes for people who are concerned about others doing it to the point they want ban for them.White wabbit wrote: »[Quoted post was removed]
If people are doing this then I would question if they are also mature enough to be playing online , people should be able to come online of any age and be able to play in a safe environment, I would say that with a statement like yours you are a person doing said grieving
You are the only one saying ban1
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