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Chapter "Gates of oblivion" or "Soul-Shriven Superhero who more powerful then the Dovahkiin"
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nukk3r✭✭✭✭✭
✭To be honest, I don’t know (I would like to speculate about this in the comments)I don't care anymore. The plot doesn't matter at all. There will be nerfs, meta shifts and game breaking bugs, but we'll still play it.
I'd buy the chapter anyway. The plot of the season determines if I buy the next one. The quality determines if I sub, preorder, buy crowns and will generally hand out there or just do the quests and then log in only for trading and events while actually playing something else.
Not considering dropping it altogether for some reason, though.
I don't know how you guys are willing to take a leap of faith with pre-orders. I bought Greymoor on black friday and only because it was 7 EUR and my PvP group was considering using mythics in our builds.1 -
Nairinhe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes, I would like to see this chapterI don't care anymore. The plot doesn't matter at all. There will be nerfs, meta shifts and game breaking bugs, but we'll still play it.
I'd buy the chapter anyway. The plot of the season determines if I buy the next one. The quality determines if I sub, preorder, buy crowns and will generally hand out there or just do the quests and then log in only for trading and events while actually playing something else.
Not considering dropping it altogether for some reason, though.
I don't know how you guys are willing to take a leap of faith with pre-orders. I bought Greymoor on black friday and only because it was 7 EUR and my PvP group was considering using mythics in our builds.
Well, until Greymoor game was good. Now? No way I'm preordering at least until the next Q1 DLC. After? Maybe, if they get their stuff together.0 -
Faulgor✭✭✭✭✭
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It's not a leap of faith when you can test the content weeks before launch on the PTS. (:I don't care anymore. The plot doesn't matter at all. There will be nerfs, meta shifts and game breaking bugs, but we'll still play it.
I'd buy the chapter anyway. The plot of the season determines if I buy the next one. The quality determines if I sub, preorder, buy crowns and will generally hand out there or just do the quests and then log in only for trading and events while actually playing something else.
Not considering dropping it altogether for some reason, though.
I don't know how you guys are willing to take a leap of faith with pre-orders. I bought Greymoor on black friday and only because it was 7 EUR and my PvP group was considering using mythics in our builds.Alandrol Sul: He's making another Numidium?!?
Vivec: Worse, buddy. They're buying it.3 -
Nivinfarr✭✭✭Do we actually know enough about the DLC based on the teaser trailer to form an opinion?
I'm unfamiliar with previous content dealing with Dagon. But there's plenty of content I haven't experience yet.1 -
Ashryn✭✭✭✭✭I support the opinion and do NOT want to see this chapter in the gamePersonally, I am tired of re-hashing prior content, whether it be this game OR what passes for a movie/entertainment industry. What ever happened to creativity and imagination? I'm not excited at all for this chapter
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Vevvev✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭What if they present this chapter a little differently than we think? (Unlikely scenario)Personally, I am tired of re-hashing prior content, whether it be this game OR what passes for a movie/entertainment industry. What ever happened to creativity and imagination? I'm not excited at all for this chapter
No matter what there will always be a copy of something. Like for example the worst thing we could have done to music is record it because you can only make so many pleasing melodies before you eventually run out. There are only so many combinations of notes that exist out there and the same could be said of stories. How many possible twists and turns can you possibly put into a story but the conclusion is always the hero beats the villain? Like for example in ESO the "Person in power turns against you" trope has been so over used that when I did Murkmire for example I knew exactly who was going to betray me the moment they said a few keys words.Edited by Vevvev on December 12, 2020 5:29PMPC NA - Ceyanna Ashton - Breton Vampire MagDK0 -
UrbanMonk✭✭✭✭✭
✭*Just poke and see poll results*I don't care anymore. The plot doesn't matter at all. There will be nerfs, meta shifts and game breaking bugs, but we'll still play it.
I'd buy the chapter anyway. The plot of the season determines if I buy the next one. The quality determines if I sub, preorder, buy crowns and will generally hand out there or just do the quests and then log in only for trading and events while actually playing something else.
Not considering dropping it altogether for some reason, though.
And this is the very reason why ZOS is not focusing on fixing the game but just releasing new content ...Urban.Monk
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Ingenon✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes, I would like to see this chapterI have done the story quests, dungeons, and trials on my characters. Most of the game content is entertaining. I am still enjoying the game, and I will probably buy the next chapter.2 -
dcam86b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes, I would like to see this chapterActually none of what you're putting forth matters bc ZOS already has the 2022 chapter in the works.0 -
Nairinhe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes, I would like to see this chapterI don't care anymore. The plot doesn't matter at all. There will be nerfs, meta shifts and game breaking bugs, but we'll still play it.
I'd buy the chapter anyway. The plot of the season determines if I buy the next one. The quality determines if I sub, preorder, buy crowns and will generally hand out there or just do the quests and then log in only for trading and events while actually playing something else.
Not considering dropping it altogether for some reason, though.
And this is the very reason why ZOS is not focusing on fixing the game but just releasing new content ...
If they won't release new content, game would die very fast. I think (nothing to support it though) that most of the playerbase are casual fans of the Elder Scrolls franchise who are not that much affected by bugs and don't even visit the forums. They won't really notice fixes but they sure as heck would notice absence of new quests and zones. I may be wrong, of course.1 -
spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes, I would like to see this chapterI' not hyped for this chapter. We fought big bad blue Molag Bal in his dimension, now we will fight big bad red Merunes Dagon in his dimension most likely. And hopefully, there will be no more mary sue princesses, each sex getting equal representation ingame, characters actually wearing armor when fighting army of enemies, and react properly when things are happening all around. But that would be too good to be true.
@Lintashi
Princess Svana, Fennorian, Lyris, High King Svagrim were the major players....and that is equal representation. The main side characters were Old Mjolen, Jarl Reddharn, and Maugh. Which brings the total to 3 women and 4 males. I guess it can be argued that Old Mjolen is a major player instead of a side hero, even if her impact was less than the other 4 because it was clearly more than Reddharn or Maugh. Still though, not really what one would call unequal representation.Edited by spartaxoxo on December 12, 2020 6:29PM3 -
Lintashi✭✭✭✭✭What if they present this chapter a little differently than we think? (Unlikely scenario)spartaxoxo wrote: »I' not hyped for this chapter. We fought big bad blue Molag Bal in his dimension, now we will fight big bad red Merunes Dagon in his dimension most likely. And hopefully, there will be no more mary sue princesses, each sex getting equal representation ingame, characters actually wearing armor when fighting army of enemies, and react properly when things are happening all around. But that would be too good to be true.
@Lintashi
Princess Svana, Fennorian, Lyris, High King Svagrim were the major players....and that is equal representation. The main side characters were Old Mjolen, Jarl Reddharn, and Maugh. Which brings the total to 3 women and 4 males. I guess it can be argued that Old Mjolen is a major player instead of a side hero, even if her impact was less than the other 4 because it was clearly more than Reddharn or Maugh. Still though, not really what one would call unequal representation.
If you do side quests first, and see the gathering in the final quest of Western Skyrim storyline, you will see my point of view. If you take all of the questgivers, we have men: Neramo, Fennorian, rather dumb high king's captain of the guard, coward in Karthwatch, cowards in Chillwind, who rather see their sister dead than attempt to find a cure, comedy reliefs of Rigurt and Narsis Dren, coward at Shadowgreen, that asks us to do his job, and stranded traders in Silver Cormorant, who would rather die of hunger, than step 5 feet from their ship to get food. As woma
En, we have: Titanborn, Svana, brave captain of Dragon Bridge, priestess of Meridia, possibly first woman chief of Mor Khazgur, wise adviser of Jarl inKarthwatch, warrior princess of the Reach, wife and daughter of Jarl of Morthal, 2 bandit girls of Frozen Coast, 2 ghostbusters of Dusktown, good female werewolf fighting against bad male werewolf in Dark moon, wise wife asking to save not overly cautious husband at Lightless hollow, and only comic relief researcher in Dragonhome. There is not a single prominent male character, that could be both strong and smart, most of them are either stupid, or cowards, or dead. This could not be said about female characters. I normally pay less attention to such details, but as a girl, I pay attention to strong female characters in eso. In Skyrim however, it is like there are nothing but strong women, and no men, and it starts to feel unnatural.Edited by Lintashi on December 12, 2020 7:26PM7 -
SammyKhajit✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭To be honest, I don’t know (I would like to speculate about this in the comments)spartaxoxo wrote: »I' not hyped for this chapter. We fought big bad blue Molag Bal in his dimension, now we will fight big bad red Merunes Dagon in his dimension most likely. And hopefully, there will be no more mary sue princesses, each sex getting equal representation ingame, characters actually wearing armor when fighting army of enemies, and react properly when things are happening all around. But that would be too good to be true.
@Lintashi
Princess Svana, Fennorian, Lyris, High King Svagrim were the major players....and that is equal representation. The main side characters were Old Mjolen, Jarl Reddharn, and Maugh. Which brings the total to 3 women and 4 males. I guess it can be argued that Old Mjolen is a major player instead of a side hero, even if her impact was less than the other 4 because it was clearly more than Reddharn or Maugh. Still though, not really what one would call unequal representation.
If you do side quests first, and see the gathering in the final quest of Western Skyrim storyline, you will see my point of view. If you take all of the questgivers, we have men: Neramo, Fennorian, rather dumb high king's captain of the guard, coward in Karthwatch, cowards in Chillwind, who rather see their sister dead than attempt to find a cure, comedy reliefs of Rigurt and Narsis Dren, coward at Shadowgreen, that asks us to do his job, and stranded traders in Silver Cormorant, who would rather die of hunger, than step 5 feet from their ship to get food. As woma
En, we have: Titanborn, Svana, brave captain of Dragon Bridge, priestess of Meridia, possibly first woman chief of Mor Khazgur, wise adviser of Jarl inKarthwatch, warrior princess of the Reach, wife and daughter of Jarl of Morthal, 2 bandit girls of Frozen Coast, 2 ghostbusters of Dusktown, good female werewolf fighting against bad male werewolf in Dark moon, wise wife asking to save not overly cautious husband at Lightless hollow, and only comic relief researcher in Dragonhome. There is not a single prominent male character, that could be both strong and smart, most of them are either stupid, or cowards, or dead. This could not be said about female characters. I normally pay less attention to such details, but as a girl, I pay attention to strong female characters in eso. In Skyrim however, it is like there are nothing but strong women, and no men, and it starts to feel unnatural.
Most game developers and players are still men. They have more female NPCs because there’s an assumption the consumer/buyer is cisgender, straight blokes who want to see pixelated girls.
Personally, the more intelligent, strong female characters the better! This khajit wouldn’t play the game if it’s all blokes NPC yammering about ‘honour’, meaty manliness and “Skyrim belongs to the Nords!” 🥱
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spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes, I would like to see this chapterspartaxoxo wrote: »I' not hyped for this chapter. We fought big bad blue Molag Bal in his dimension, now we will fight big bad red Merunes Dagon in his dimension most likely. And hopefully, there will be no more mary sue princesses, each sex getting equal representation ingame, characters actually wearing armor when fighting army of enemies, and react properly when things are happening all around. But that would be too good to be true.
@Lintashi
Princess Svana, Fennorian, Lyris, High King Svagrim were the major players....and that is equal representation. The main side characters were Old Mjolen, Jarl Reddharn, and Maugh. Which brings the total to 3 women and 4 males. I guess it can be argued that Old Mjolen is a major player instead of a side hero, even if her impact was less than the other 4 because it was clearly more than Reddharn or Maugh. Still though, not really what one would call unequal representation.
If you do side quests first, and see the gathering in the final quest of Western Skyrim storyline, you will see my point of view. If you take all of the questgivers, we have men: Neramo, Fennorian, rather dumb high king's captain of the guard, coward in Karthwatch, cowards in Chillwind, who rather see their sister dead than attempt to find a cure, comedy reliefs of Rigurt and Narsis Dren, coward at Shadowgreen, that asks us to do his job, and stranded traders in Silver Cormorant, who would rather die of hunger, than step 5 feet from their ship to get food. As woma
En, we have: Titanborn, Svana, brave captain of Dragon Bridge, priestess of Meridia, possibly first woman chief of Mor Khazgur, wise adviser of Jarl inKarthwatch, warrior princess of the Reach, wife and daughter of Jarl of Morthal, 2 bandit girls of Frozen Coast, 2 ghostbusters of Dusktown, good female werewolf fighting against bad male werewolf in Dark moon, wise wife asking to save not overly cautious husband at Lightless hollow, and only comic relief researcher in Dragonhome. There is not a single prominent male character, that could be both strong and smart, most of them are either stupid, or cowards, or dead. This could not be said about female characters. I normally pay less attention to such details, but as a girl, I pay attention to strong female characters in eso. In Skyrim however, it is like there are nothing but strong women, and no men, and it starts to feel unnatural.
Jarl Reddharn is a strong man. Most of the dudes you cast aside as cowardly aren't. The stranded guys, for example, have done their best to survive but need aid. They didn't not go out because they are cowards. They didn't go out because they are survivors of a ship wreck and were weakened. That's actually extremely normal for someone in a serious accident and it only reflects badly on their character if you are looking for slights imo.
Then we have Raynor and that time travelling dude. We have Viggol, who was a strong elderly adventurer. He may no longer be physically strong, but he's still a very brave man who wants to help others. He's the one that sees people in need. And he risks himself to protect you even knowing that he's in not in his old physical shape. And yet, he doesn't die because he's still strong enough to kick some butt on his own.
Like even in the side characters it's false to say there weren't good and strong dudes, unless you find reasons to dismiss rhe male characters. Hell the cowardly male in Karthwasten that you're sent to find...it's his very strong uncle who has his hands full saving a village that asks you to go looking for. And after that quest is said done, it's him that leads his people and continues to protect and guide them while they make their way to Solitude.
Heck, the most prominent of all the new characters is Fennorian. Who is highly intelligent and very strong. He gimps himself constantly because he doesn't like how monstrous he can be, but he actually unleashes the beast and turns a battle around that freaking Lyris was worried about losing when his back is against the wall and Solitude is in danger.Edited by spartaxoxo on December 12, 2020 7:45PM2 -
Faulgor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I normally pay less attention to such details, but as a girl, I pay attention to strong female characters in eso. In Skyrim however, it is like there are nothing but strong women, and no men, and it starts to feel unnatural.
I said this around Greymoor's release, but a female-centric Skyrim chapter could have actually been awesome, given the standing of female gods in the Nords' pantheon and whatnot. But they didn't do anything with that either, aside from a tiny mention of Mother Wolf by Old Mjolen.
Instead, Greymoor just weirdly stands out in ESO's content that usually has been really equal in terms of representation.
I haven't kept count for Markarth, although it seemed improved in that respect. Not just representation, but also the writing quality of the characters. Arana was much more interesting to me than Svana, for example.Alandrol Sul: He's making another Numidium?!?
Vivec: Worse, buddy. They're buying it.3 -
What if they present this chapter a little differently than we think? (Unlikely scenario)C'mon Planemeld 2.0? Oblivion Crisis 3.0? They wouldn't right?1 -
evvelito✭✭✭Yes, I would like to see this chapterThe only thing I'm tired of is this same kind of complaining every year..
Morrowind Chapter - "not good enough, fan service, uncreative, lore-breaking"
Elsweyr - "not good enough, fan service, why dragons there and not skyrim, lore-breaking"
Greymoor - "not good enough, fan service, uncreative, lore-breaking"
and oh look now…
"not good enough, fan service, uncreative, lore-breaking"
Most people here on the forum seem to forget that ESO is in fact a game dedicated to the World of Tamriel and is from the beginning so called "fan service". If ZOS make content from previous games or comes up with something new, it's either lore-breaking or trying to please the crowd with nostalgia. They can never win. They are just a company making content about The Elder Scrolls. Why can't we just play (or don't bother) the content and then decide if we enjoyed it or not? At the end of the day it is an MMO, not a single player game that the setting revovles around one story.
I'm excited to play the new Chapter, even though I know my love for TES: Oblivion is always going to be bigger and just because Dagon appears now in ESO, it's not going to ruin my experience either way. I love getting the chance to explore Tamriel.
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Pixiepumpkin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭i was not excited at all when i watched the gaming awards the other night and the eso trailer came on. it looks really boring to me. oblivion stuff is depressing"Class identity isn’t just about power or efficiency. It’s about symbolic clarity, mechanical cohesion, and a shared visual and tactical language between players." - sans-culottes1 -
VoxAdActa✭✭✭✭✭Yes, I would like to see this chapterThe only thing I'm tired of is this same kind of complaining every year..
Morrowind Chapter - "not good enough, fan service, uncreative, lore-breaking"
Elsweyr - "not good enough, fan service, why dragons there and not skyrim, lore-breaking"
Greymoor - "not good enough, fan service, uncreative, lore-breaking"
and oh look now…
"not good enough, fan service, uncreative, lore-breaking"
Most people here on the forum seem to forget that ESO is in fact a game dedicated to the World of Tamriel and is from the beginning so called "fan service". If ZOS make content from previous games or comes up with something new, it's either lore-breaking or trying to please the crowd with nostalgia. They can never win. They are just a company making content about The Elder Scrolls. Why can't we just play (or don't bother) the content and then decide if we enjoyed it or not? At the end of the day it is an MMO, not a single player game that the setting revovles around one story.
I'm excited to play the new Chapter, even though I know my love for TES: Oblivion is always going to be bigger and just because Dagon appears now in ESO, it's not going to ruin my experience either way. I love getting the chance to explore Tamriel.
Right? It's like there's a huge portion of this forum that ONLY comes here to complain about how they hate literally everything. Especially chicks in the storylines, but I digress.
ZOS can't give us "never before seen" TES content because there's a new TES single-player game in the works right now. Bethesda let us see some new places in the base game, because they couldn't exactly release a global TES game in which all the Bosmer, Kahjiit, Altmer, and Argonians were refugees or something. But after they cleared out a little bit of homeland for the races that haven't been represented in the single-player TES games yet, they started doing the remakes of older TES games. That frees up Bethesda from having to spend time on "Morrowind: Remastered" (etc) and lets them move forward with new content.
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FLuFFyxMuFFiN✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭What if they present this chapter a little differently than we think? (Unlikely scenario)VampireLordLover99 wrote: »Can't wait to spend another year helping another lost princess WOOOOOO
So is it safe to assume the Eveli Sharp-Arrow is a bosmer princess who ran away from her responsibilities to chase her dreams of becoming an adventurer and that's when we meet her in Wrothgar but now her past is catching up to her and she must return to her old life to save those she holds dear and she enlists our help to do it?0
