There's no excuse for crashing anymore, it's been more than a month

CleymenZero · December 2020

Really though, if you take more than a month to fix something that makes your product useless and ruin the endgame community you do not deserve any sympathy and really should explain yourself.

I don't know if today's patch actually fixed anything just like last patch had supposedly fixed some crashes but last night (before today's patch) was the worst raid night I had seen since week 1 of the Markarth patch.

I hadn't been crashing that much during the week, had those stupid iddle crashes where your character stands still for 2-3 minutes and you just crash but was otherwise not suffering from too many crashes.

Last night though... What the hell!!! I crashed 6 times at least, tanks crashed other players crashed. At one point 7 of us crashed at the same time.

All I'm saying is, I've sent at least 50 crash reports and many more with the ones that at one point didn't prompt crash reports and that's your last chance. Raid teams disbanded over this, players left the game, we're 38+ days after the patch you have absolutely no excuse. There's isn't a shred of decency on how the team has been dealing with this, Gina's been good at communicating but one person's good job doesn't makes up for the poor work that's been done fixing something that wasn't broken pre-Markarth.

All this and I still see threads about WW skills and/or skill points being messed up. That seems like a straightforward fix and that's not done.

I've played other games way more than ESO the past weeks, please fix your game I don't want to only play other games going forward.

Please, for Gawd's sake and for the love of ***, fix your game.

caperb · December 2020

It doesn't exist when you don't talk about it, PvP has been treated like this for years.

I don't think you can qualify the standard "we're aware and looking into it" as communication.

TineaCruris · December 2020

A month? Did you just start playing ESO a month ago?

It's been two years of things getting worse and worse, on average, with some glimmers of hope, that rarely hold up over time.

Supposedly today's update addresses some of these issues, but time will tell.

jaws343 · December 2020

CleymenZero wrote: »

I don't know if today's patch actually fixed anything just like last patch had supposedly fixed some crashes but last night (before today's patch) was the worst raid night I had seen since week 1 of the Markarth patch.

Then why are you speaking. Wait a few hours and actually try the patch that is attempting to fix things before getting up on a soap box.

CleymenZero · December 2020

TineaCruris wrote: »

A month? Did you just start playing ESO a month ago?

It's been two years of things getting worse and worse, on average, with some glimmers of hope, that rarely hold up over time.

Supposedly today's update addresses some of these issues, but time will tell.

There's been some bad stuff happening over the years sure but this one stands out. I crashed occasionally before, which was already too much, but I don't know... You think crashing 8 times a night doesn't stand out enough?

People were crashing this summer and they managed to fix it but this really is on another level.

CleymenZero · December 2020

jaws343 wrote: »

CleymenZero wrote: »

I don't know if today's patch actually fixed anything just like last patch had supposedly fixed some crashes but last night (before today's patch) was the worst raid night I had seen since week 1 of the Markarth patch.

Then why are you speaking. Wait a few hours and actually try the patch that is attempting to fix things before getting up on a soap box.

*Facepalm*

Yeah... They said last incremental that they fixed crashes...

To answer you, soap box boy, you'd need a week to be able to test it properly. If you actually read my post, you'd see that I didn't really crash all week only to crash 7 times last night so, instead of waiting all week and then posting about how bad of a job they're doing, I make my statement pre-emptively: they have no excuses

IF, something that should've been fixed day 1 or at least week 1, isn't fixed, the already inexcusable should be for them a great source of shame.

So my statement doesn't require any testing, they said they had fixed things last incremental, turns out it was BS, this time around, it better be good.

jaws343 · December 2020

CleymenZero wrote: »

jaws343 wrote: »

CleymenZero wrote: »

I don't know if today's patch actually fixed anything just like last patch had supposedly fixed some crashes but last night (before today's patch) was the worst raid night I had seen since week 1 of the Markarth patch.

Then why are you speaking. Wait a few hours and actually try the patch that is attempting to fix things before getting up on a soap box.

*Facepalm*

Yeah... They said last incremental that they fixed crashes...

To answer you, soap box boy, you'd need a week to be able to test it properly. If you actually read my post, you'd see that I didn't really crash all week only to crash 7 times last night so, instead of waiting all week and then posting about how bad of a job they're doing, I make my statement pre-emptively: they have no excuses

IF, something that should've been fixed day 1 or at least week 1, isn't fixed, the already inexcusable should be for them a great source of shame.

So my statement doesn't require any testing, they said they had fixed things last incremental, turns out it was BS, this time around, it better be good.

Any complaints about performance since they announced today's patch, which was a week ago, are nonconstructive nonsense. We get it, it is running poorly. They announced a fix. They are implementing said fix today. You are complaining about something they have already addressed and taken steps to correct.

Rehdaun · December 2020

Lowly ps4 player here. Hoping to hear more from those who got today's patch too since we won't get ours for two more days. Good news I hope.

Husan · December 2020

jaws343 wrote: »

Any complaints about performance since they announced today's patch, which was a week ago, are nonconstructive nonsense. We get it, it is running poorly. They announced a fix. They are implementing said fix today. You are complaining about something they have already addressed and taken steps to correct.

I disagree with this. Until something is actually fixed we "get" to complain about it. I am still out a skill point from WW ulti bug that was recognized, for which a fix was announced and supposedly implemented. Many steps have also been taken to adress group finder bugs and Cyro lag, but they are both not fixed yet. There are many more examples of this. And I'll bet you people will keep complaining about it until it is fixed. Rightly so. We are past the point where an acknowledgement calms us down, as throughout the years of playing this game it means a proper fix is still months away in many cases.

edit: an acknowledgement is still a step in the right direction, don't get me wrong. It just has to be followed by a proper resolution to the issue, and not a bandaid fix with a bandaid that falls off the next major update.

mobicera · December 2020

jaws343 wrote: »

CleymenZero wrote: »

jaws343 wrote: »

CleymenZero wrote: »

I don't know if today's patch actually fixed anything just like last patch had supposedly fixed some crashes but last night (before today's patch) was the worst raid night I had seen since week 1 of the Markarth patch.

Then why are you speaking. Wait a few hours and actually try the patch that is attempting to fix things before getting up on a soap box.

*Facepalm*

Yeah... They said last incremental that they fixed crashes...

To answer you, soap box boy, you'd need a week to be able to test it properly. If you actually read my post, you'd see that I didn't really crash all week only to crash 7 times last night so, instead of waiting all week and then posting about how bad of a job they're doing, I make my statement pre-emptively: they have no excuses

IF, something that should've been fixed day 1 or at least week 1, isn't fixed, the already inexcusable should be for them a great source of shame.

So my statement doesn't require any testing, they said they had fixed things last incremental, turns out it was BS, this time around, it better be good.

Any complaints about performance since they announced today's patch, which was a week ago, are nonconstructive nonsense. We get it, it is running poorly. They announced a fix. They are implementing said fix today. You are complaining about something they have already addressed and taken steps to correct.

Its really not nonsense though.
I honestly can't even understand what goes through people's heads when they stand here and defend Zos for letting this happen.
This patch was just a disrespectful slap in the face.
The fact that on ps4 we couldn't do trials for basically a month almost killed the end game.
A guild I was I that was running trials daily now has been cancelling runs due to lack of sign up.
1/3 of the time spent in progression now if they even happen are just waiting on people dcing
Please just stop defending this garbage.
The more you allow this kind of thing the more crap people feed you.
Enough is Enough, fix it before a large portion of the community leaves.
Zos knew of all this crap on pts, yet nothing and they still pushed the release.
It shows you that you are considered nothing but a freaking dollar sign.
Now go buy crates from the only working thing the damb crown store

Katheriah · December 2020

jaws343 wrote: »

CleymenZero wrote: »

I don't know if today's patch actually fixed anything just like last patch had supposedly fixed some crashes but last night (before today's patch) was the worst raid night I had seen since week 1 of the Markarth patch.

Then why are you speaking. Wait a few hours and actually try the patch that is attempting to fix things before getting up on a soap box.

Let him back on the soap box. I'm still crashing and anyone who expexted otherwise is naive.

jaws343 · December 2020

mobicera wrote: »

jaws343 wrote: »

CleymenZero wrote: »

jaws343 wrote: »

CleymenZero wrote: »

I don't know if today's patch actually fixed anything just like last patch had supposedly fixed some crashes but last night (before today's patch) was the worst raid night I had seen since week 1 of the Markarth patch.

Then why are you speaking. Wait a few hours and actually try the patch that is attempting to fix things before getting up on a soap box.

*Facepalm*

Yeah... They said last incremental that they fixed crashes...

To answer you, soap box boy, you'd need a week to be able to test it properly. If you actually read my post, you'd see that I didn't really crash all week only to crash 7 times last night so, instead of waiting all week and then posting about how bad of a job they're doing, I make my statement pre-emptively: they have no excuses

IF, something that should've been fixed day 1 or at least week 1, isn't fixed, the already inexcusable should be for them a great source of shame.

So my statement doesn't require any testing, they said they had fixed things last incremental, turns out it was BS, this time around, it better be good.

Any complaints about performance since they announced today's patch, which was a week ago, are nonconstructive nonsense. We get it, it is running poorly. They announced a fix. They are implementing said fix today. You are complaining about something they have already addressed and taken steps to correct.

Its really not nonsense though.
I honestly can't even understand what goes through people's heads when they stand here and defend Zos for letting this happen.
This patch was just a disrespectful slap in the face.
The fact that on ps4 we couldn't do trials for basically a month almost killed the end game.
A guild I was I that was running trials daily now has been cancelling runs due to lack of sign up.
1/3 of the time spent in progression now if they even happen are just waiting on people dcing
Please just stop defending this garbage.
The more you allow this kind of thing the more crap people feed you.
Enough is Enough, fix it before a large portion of the community leaves.
Zos knew of all this crap on pts, yet nothing and they still pushed the release.
It shows you that you are considered nothing but a freaking dollar sign.
Now go buy crates from the only working thing the damb crown store

Not once have I defended the problems. I am however saying that complaining about something that literally has a fix scheduled is not doing any good. They implemented a problem, we complained, they scheduled a patch to fix the problem, and yet people keep complaining about the problem. What exactly is Zos supposed to do in this situation? They are fixing the problem, they have already done work on the patch to do so and are literally releasing it for PC this morning, and already released it for Xbox. PC players complaining about something that is literally already being fixed does nothing in this situation. Now, if Xbox players are still experiencing issues after Friday's patch, by all means complain away. But the complaining after a fix is already in the pipeline does nobody any good. It drowns out legitimate issues in the forums that people are experiencing.

And no, crashing 7 times last night is not a legitimate issue any more, because the fix is being implemented today and we were told that was going to be the case a week ago. Now, after the patch, if the crashing is still happening, then it is a legitimate issue again, until then, wait for the fix they said was coming, and that they are implementing right now.

AyaDark · December 2020

I just play WoW 70% of the time, so ... . 30% is TESO.

Why do people play ?

No good games in 2020.

But 4-5 very good projects in 2021.

So all good players will go there.

Bugs are not fixed and they will not fix it, we can not play normally, so ... . A lot of people who like skiled play will go away. May be they fix it one day after 2-3 years ... then may be some players try TESO again. I will wait for that time.

And all other will fill that game starts play better, becouse 50% will go away and game will be half empty or half full.

Only true fans and some low skilles stay may be, so forget about high end content

People who can solo vDLC, do trials with low level group will go fight for new grounds, where SKILLS work and DO PRESS.

Game will get new meta - some liw brain will post some new setsfor tank like: Olorim + Spell power cure, no normal players will like to play it, and players will try to pass normal HRC "META right" for years, and may be even some day pass.

Like game DEVs, who run normals on Twitch, that we watch for drops only.

New 2 days tank search in random Queue and 100500 topics on forum about fake rolls and dragon crush arenas and bug layers and etc.

May be some body get fun.

For funs, quest playets, house makers game is pretty good.

For others it is not, they just go away.

mobicera · December 2020

jaws343 wrote: »

mobicera wrote: »

jaws343 wrote: »

CleymenZero wrote: »

jaws343 wrote: »

CleymenZero wrote: »

I don't know if today's patch actually fixed anything just like last patch had supposedly fixed some crashes but last night (before today's patch) was the worst raid night I had seen since week 1 of the Markarth patch.

Then why are you speaking. Wait a few hours and actually try the patch that is attempting to fix things before getting up on a soap box.

*Facepalm*

Yeah... They said last incremental that they fixed crashes...

To answer you, soap box boy, you'd need a week to be able to test it properly. If you actually read my post, you'd see that I didn't really crash all week only to crash 7 times last night so, instead of waiting all week and then posting about how bad of a job they're doing, I make my statement pre-emptively: they have no excuses

IF, something that should've been fixed day 1 or at least week 1, isn't fixed, the already inexcusable should be for them a great source of shame.

So my statement doesn't require any testing, they said they had fixed things last incremental, turns out it was BS, this time around, it better be good.

Any complaints about performance since they announced today's patch, which was a week ago, are nonconstructive nonsense. We get it, it is running poorly. They announced a fix. They are implementing said fix today. You are complaining about something they have already addressed and taken steps to correct.

Its really not nonsense though.
I honestly can't even understand what goes through people's heads when they stand here and defend Zos for letting this happen.
This patch was just a disrespectful slap in the face.
The fact that on ps4 we couldn't do trials for basically a month almost killed the end game.
A guild I was I that was running trials daily now has been cancelling runs due to lack of sign up.
1/3 of the time spent in progression now if they even happen are just waiting on people dcing
Please just stop defending this garbage.
The more you allow this kind of thing the more crap people feed you.
Enough is Enough, fix it before a large portion of the community leaves.
Zos knew of all this crap on pts, yet nothing and they still pushed the release.
It shows you that you are considered nothing but a freaking dollar sign.
Now go buy crates from the only working thing the damb crown store

Not once have I defended the problems. I am however saying that complaining about something that literally has a fix scheduled is not doing any good. They implemented a problem, we complained, they scheduled a patch to fix the problem, and yet people keep complaining about the problem. What exactly is Zos supposed to do in this situation? They are fixing the problem, they have already done work on the patch to do so and are literally releasing it for PC this morning, and already released it for Xbox. PC players complaining about something that is literally already being fixed does nothing in this situation. Now, if Xbox players are still experiencing issues after Friday's patch, by all means complain away. But the complaining after a fix is already in the pipeline does nobody any good. It drowns out legitimate issues in the forums that people are experiencing.

And no, crashing 7 times last night is not a legitimate issue any more, because the fix is being implemented today and we were told that was going to be the case a week ago. Now, after the patch, if the crashing is still happening, then it is a legitimate issue again, until then, wait for the fix they said was coming, and that they are implementing right now.

How many times can I hear we are looking at a fix then get nothing but more broken crap, before I just doubt everything they say.
Lip service does nothing.
Until I see legitimate results I will keep saying the same thing.
And the fact that the first thing I saw on discord this morning was pc players still crashing really doesn't bode well.

CleymenZero · December 2020

jaws343 wrote: »

CleymenZero wrote: »

jaws343 wrote: »

CleymenZero wrote: »

I don't know if today's patch actually fixed anything just like last patch had supposedly fixed some crashes but last night (before today's patch) was the worst raid night I had seen since week 1 of the Markarth patch.

Then why are you speaking. Wait a few hours and actually try the patch that is attempting to fix things before getting up on a soap box.

*Facepalm*

Yeah... They said last incremental that they fixed crashes...

To answer you, soap box boy, you'd need a week to be able to test it properly. If you actually read my post, you'd see that I didn't really crash all week only to crash 7 times last night so, instead of waiting all week and then posting about how bad of a job they're doing, I make my statement pre-emptively: they have no excuses

IF, something that should've been fixed day 1 or at least week 1, isn't fixed, the already inexcusable should be for them a great source of shame.

So my statement doesn't require any testing, they said they had fixed things last incremental, turns out it was BS, this time around, it better be good.

Any complaints about performance since they announced today's patch, which was a week ago, are nonconstructive nonsense. We get it, it is running poorly. They announced a fix. They are implementing said fix today. You are complaining about something they have already addressed and taken steps to correct.

I get it, you can't get into the "they've said they fixed it before and I really really hope they did but they said they fixed it last week but then I crashed 7 times last night" bandwagon. That's fine, it's a discussion forum and you're of the ones that ... honestly nobody cares, just saw my ESO bot in discord post a thread about a crash before even loading into the game.

[snip]

[Edited to remove Baiting]

Muttsmutt · December 2020

CleymenZero wrote: »

really should explain yourself

this is the bottomline, i fully agree with it.
it's about due time we hear an official statement regarding the crashes.
to hell with corporate stoicism. this is an exceptional(ly bad) situation, which warrants exceptional behaviour.

HappyElephant · December 2020

ZOS stinks.
Just saying.

Khajiitihaswares · December 2020

CleymenZero wrote: »

Really though, if you take more than a month to fix something that makes your product useless and ruin the endgame community you do not deserve any sympathy and really should explain yourself.

I don't know if today's patch actually fixed anything just like last patch had supposedly fixed some crashes but last night (before today's patch) was the worst raid night I had seen since week 1 of the Markarth patch.

I hadn't been crashing that much during the week, had those stupid iddle crashes where your character stands still for 2-3 minutes and you just crash but was otherwise not suffering from too many crashes.

Last night though... What the hell!!! I crashed 6 times at least, tanks crashed other players crashed. At one point 7 of us crashed at the same time.

All I'm saying is, I've sent at least 50 crash reports and many more with the ones that at one point didn't prompt crash reports and that's your last chance. Raid teams disbanded over this, players left the game, we're 38+ days after the patch you have absolutely no excuse. There's isn't a shred of decency on how the team has been dealing with this, Gina's been good at communicating but one person's good job doesn't makes up for the poor work that's been done fixing something that wasn't broken pre-Markarth.

All this and I still see threads about WW skills and/or skill points being messed up. That seems like a straightforward fix and that's not done.

I've played other games way more than ESO the past weeks, please fix your game I don't want to only play other games going forward.

Please, for Gawd's sake and for the love of ***, fix your game.

This been an issue for people for a very long time than a month. Reason we see these topics coming up because it is effecting a larger part of the player base... But we will get standard It is being looked into post.

. Communication is not something this company does well sadly or communications of ETA's for fixes or repairs.

Bergzorn · December 2020

I just crashed. In Cyrodiil. Dissapointing.

zvavi · December 2020

Bergzorn wrote: »

I just crashed. In Cyrodiil. Dissapointing.

Lol. I mean, did you ever expect them fixing crashes in cyrodil? I didn't.

GetAgrippa · December 2020

Anyone BG yet? Ps4 user here. I'm really hoping the freezes and crashes in BGs will be fixed or at least become more infrequent.

Tigertron · December 2020

Crashing? That was not the real issue.

Fixed an issue where Indriks around the paddocks had gone MIA.

Relax. The worry is over now.

DebaZapelo · December 2020

And what kind of forum is this.....

1. Once posted you can not edit your post
2. You can however report your own post .... go figure

Khajiitihaswares · December 2020

DebaZapelo wrote: »

And what kind of forum is this.....

1. Once posted you can not edit your post
2. You can however report your own post .... go figure

You refresh the page to open the cog by the #24... If you didn't know.

Also self scrolling up may want look at your pc... My mobile device, Laptop, Desktop do not do this with chrome or safari on this site.

But besides the

Bergzorn wrote: »

I just crashed. In Cyrodiil. Dissapointing.

Cyrodill always crashing. I am more hoping PVE side things get fixed for the crashing. We will see when I get home or just open it my laptop during lunch whichever comes first.

NightSky · December 2020

Have you try maybe Resetting your ROUTER? :O Or updating your computer? XD

DebaZapelo · December 2020

Khajiitihaswares wrote: »

DebaZapelo wrote: »

And what kind of forum is this.....

1. Once posted you can not edit your post
2. You can however report your own post .... go figure

You refresh the page to open the cog by the #24... If you didn't know.

Also self scrolling up may want look at your pc... My mobile device, Laptop, Desktop do not do this with chrome or safari on this site.

But besides the

Bergzorn wrote: »

I just crashed. In Cyrodiil. Dissapointing.

Cyrodill always crashing. I am more hoping PVE side things get fixed for the crashing. We will see when I get home or just open it my laptop during lunch whichever comes first.

I saw the cog when I refreshed ...... bad design
As for "look at your PC" If no other web-page does that on the same PC and same browsers what do you think is the problem? My PC or their web-page?

Katheriah · December 2020

jaws343 wrote: »

What exactly is Zos supposed to do in this situation?

Fix it, which by the way, they didn't. Crashes are still there, in PvP and PvE.

It's just frustrating.

Wolfpaw · December 2020

1. Blue Screen Crash
2. Game Freeze/locked force close
3. Comms/voice "Unable to Connect to Server"
4. Join Party in Cyrodiil crash
5. Voice channel count down continuous loop bug
6. LA broke & skill delay
7. Login/load screen "Timed Out of Server" disconnect
8. No event ticket & weapon skin bug

Keep releasing content the same way and expect different results? No excuses.