Mindcr0w wrote: »

The game does a terrible job in teaching you how to play your class during leveling, I will grant you that, but a path for progressing through end game content is pretty well presented if you pay attention.

I do agree that there needs to be a little more information available, but "how to play your class" changes between roles, content, and meta. At some point, people just need to read all the passive and active skill descriptions and put the pieces together themselves for whatever it is that they're doing.

Though, it would be a huge help if - in the skill screen - skills someone purchased would highlight passive and other skills that buff them. Or even just being able to see an entire skill tree with all the morphs so you can actually plan ahead. That's the kind of newb-friendly stuff we need.

You *can* train yourself: you can train in the game's combat and your class, by doing solo content: vMA is excellent for this. You can train in your role and in the mechanics of group content by doing PUGs: they might be frustrating, but if you emerge victorious with PUGs, then it will be a breeze with organized groups. For harder content, you will need an organized group, but you can still train by yourself beforehand by reading guides on HM mechanics, and what build works well for each fight. ESO logs is another good resource, as you can check up which gear people wear in given fights. I agree that the game does not prepare you adequately for anything, but I desagree that there isn't a natural progression; it's just that people jump to trials, or DLC dungeons, without ever having researched mechanics, without even knowing how basic things like interrupting works. Nowadays there's a wealth of information available, if you want to improve by yourself, you absolutely can. Plus, 'egocentric guilds' is an inaccurate overgeneralisation: there's a great number of new player-centric guilds, which are friendly and train players slowly with no pressure.

Guilds go out of their way to train people at all levels of the game and it's a good thing. It encourages group play, socialising, rewards ambitious people. If everything was available to everyone, this game would have been boring and lacked challenge. If you want to clear the hardest content in the game you need to be able to make contacts. If you want to be the best, you have to join the best - and that is true at all levels. What is the best for you is going to change as you gain more and more experience.

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I believe games should and could be fairer to those who invest their money into them.
I would have easy mode, intermediate leading almost seamlessly into vet ...each stage with lots of opportunity for training so by the time players reach vet they know their class, combat and different types of fight mechanics.

Rather than this huge abyss from normal to hm vet vma vet trials etc ....no possability for a natural enjoyable progression...its a jolting stop after normal trials
You become completely dependant on big guilds to train you and they insist you do it their way....every guild looks the same. Wear this, do this, play this , parse this

Why cant we train ourselves? Why must we be forced to join egoccentric guilds in order for us to progress in our play? If we could move through different stages more fluidly then we could be confident in our own ability to master our class...we could pug vets more confidently too ...here is where normals and vet trial finder and vdsa group finder would fit in nicely. We could have a solo instance where we could test our parses and get some badge as we progress so we could use vet dungeon finder .

My dream is for everyone to feel that their dream to progress is possible if they want it.

Who exactly is forcing you to join egocentric guilds? If a guild isn't suited to how you want to play, drop it and find another. If you can't find a non-egocentric guild, why not start one so you make the rules and set the standards for behavior?