Suna_Ye_Sunnabe wrote: »

....Lol. You may want to brush up on what an exploit is defined as by zos.

doing something unintended to gain something


GF was not made to skip everything but lass boss to get free award , so by doing so you are doing something unintended to get the award

Don't you need to kill at least some other bosses to get to the last one?

Def not an exploit here bud. The devs designed the dungeons in a way that makes it so some bosses can be skipped, and some cannot. If a player somehow figured out there was a crack in a wall somewhere that allowed them to get off map/out of bounds and make it to the final boss, that would be an exploit, but just running past things you dont actually need to kill isn't. I'd argue this is WAI as there are some clear examples of bosses you simply cannot skip because the game won't actually open an area up in a dungeon without killing them, and some obvious examples of optional bosses that you would miss if you didn't look for them a little bit, so any boss that doesn't physically bar you from progressing would fall under the flag of optional. I can empathize that it is a pain when they do this, but you can't exactly fault them for doing their thing. If you really want to squeeze every last drop out of a dungeon, then form a group with like minded players, or ask in group at the beginning if you guys can do all of them. Just don't be too surprised if someone doesnt go for it.

this aint about running vet this aint about running solo , this is about what it says TOXIC EXPLOIT that is being done to the GF system , AS THE SYSTEM WASNT PUT INTO THE GAME TO SKIP AREAS OF AN DUNGEON ,SOMETIMES 98% OF DUNGEON ALL THE WHILE BEING TOXIC TO 1-3 OTHERS TRYING TO PLAY THE GAME,TO GET AN AWARD FOR DOING AN ACTIVITY WITH AN GROUP OF 1-3 OTHERS THUS MAKING IT AN EXPLOIT THAT HURMS OTHERS OVER 1S ACTIONS TO GET AWARD IN AN UNINTENDED WHY

ZOS HAS KNOWN OF THESE ACTS AND HASNT PUT AN STOP TO IT , WITH THEIR NEW STICKER BOOK BEING OUT TOXIC PLAYERS WITH-IN GAME SYSTEMS LIKE GROUP FINDER THAT PLAYER HAS AN REASON EVEN IF THEY DO PLAY SOLO( 2MAN 3MAN OR 4 )TO USE AN IN GAME SYSTEM NOW MORE THEN EVER AS SET S ARE AB BIG PART OF THIS GAME


i could right an book here as to why its bad for in games systems to be let run wide with toxic , exploit actives and how it hurts other players in more whys then the activity the toxic acts are happening in

THEN THE FACT THAT ZOS PUNISHES THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS TYPE OF ACTIVE BY SAYING STAY IN THAT GROUP OR GET AN 15 MIN. TIME OUT BASEICLY PORMOTING TOXIC EXPLOIT LIKE BEHAVIOR WITH-IN THE GAME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

If they are running, they are doing it wong. You should always sprint and have a speed buff active, when doing normal dungeons

Seriously though: It was zos decision to add that many transmutation stones to random normals while keeping the amount much lower on every other activity. So obviously every experienced player who needs transmutation stones will run normal dungeons. And since normal dungeons are quite boring when you have enough damage to kill a boss in 10s while the enemies only scratch you, the obvious result is to just get done with it as fast as possible.
I'm sure, if they changed it so we could get a similar amount of stones per hour from vet dungeon hardmodes or raids, much less people would be speedrunning normal dungeons.

THIS SOUNDS LIKE ONE WAY TO EASY THE ACTIONS YET ZOS WONT TRY WHEN IT MEANS THE ENJOYMENT OF THE GAME FOR MORE THEN AN FEW PLAYERS AS I HAVE SEEN IT BE ASKED OTHER TIMES THIS TYPE OF TALK STARTS

BUT THIS ONES MORE ABOUT SHOULD THEY DO MORE TO STOP THE ACTIVE FROM HAPPING OR JUST KEEP PUTTING AN BLIND EYE TO IT NOW THAT ITS HURTTING PLAYERS IN MORE WHY THAT HAVE IMPACT TO THE GAME WITH THE STICKER BOOK / NEW AWARDS COUNT GIVEN FOR ( BEING NICE AND DOING AN ACTIVITY WITH OTHERS , YOU COULD EVEN GAIN AN FRIEND ) AN GROUP ACTIVITY (ONE THEY LET YOU CHOOSE TO BRING 1-3 OTHERS WITH YOU OR PLAY SOLO) THAT WAS MENT TO BE DONE FROM START TO FINISH TO GET , NOT GET 98% SKIPPED TO GET

Yes I've been doing that a lot lately!

Not because the xp, couldn't care less.

But because of all the lag and recent AoE tests in Cyrodiil me and my friends have been doing a bit more dungeons, no random normals though since they are useless.

Until latest patch, you now get 10 transmutates for a RND, and because got some new builds to make need extra transmutates. 1+1 =2.

Oh, and I will continue doing it. Yesterday even the tank and the heal of the RND I appeared in were DD's. Apparently we all had the same goal.

Oh also, do you care to explain why this is toxic?
I find your behaviour a bit toxic, all in caps, didn't read;)

Kaenos wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

GF was not made to skip everything but lass boss to get free award , so by doing so you are doing something unintended to get the award

Rubbish. Do not presume to put more into GF than it is; A tool to assemble a group for specific content. How you approach said content is irrelevant - GF's job is done when you're delivered to the dungeon.

What happens from then on is up to the assembled group. "Do we skip optional bosses?", "Do we use shortcuts?", "Are we trying for achievements?" etc. etc. None of which is the least bit relevant to the group finder.

You are interacting with human beings; Try speaking to them - and accept the fact that not everyone wants to do things exactly as you like - or otherwise create a group the old-fashioned way in zone/guild chat.

if you didnt get an award for doing activity it could be said gf is only to place you with others but giving its an activity (activity being what ever dungeon you get) that gives an award , skipping 98% of the activity in the dungeon (activity being killing stuff) was unintended when ZOS made all dungeons ( im sure they didnt say add all this good stuff to be ran pass!!!! its just money,time for nothing ) thus making doing so an exploit (no different then VAS at release was when standing outside the gate to kill everything ) to the group finder system that ESO has in it

Raideen wrote: »

The word "toxic" is so over used these days, it's lost it's meaning.

Indeed. It is now used to mean "players that dont play the way I like"