Seems like its a win/win to ban these bots then. Every bot they ban they get $60 when they buy a new copy. They should just employ me, ill investigate dungeons all day banning bots if they give me $30 a ban

Yes, they got banned, but are magically back in the dungeon, instantly leveled up.

Brilliant deduction. I personally love it when I send a tell to a bot I saw and reported 3 days earlier. Quick turn around on those bans, let me tell you.

Because there aren't any hired. It's classified.

I think a lot used hacked accounts and not all are bots but players farming the bosses which isn't cheating or exploiting. Zenimax need to change how these bosses drop loot and give xp. Just remember that a lot are innocent players so be careful who you report.

Loxy37 wrote: »

I think a lot used hacked accounts and not all are bots but players farming the bosses which isn't cheating or exploiting. Zenimax need to change how these bosses drop loot and give xp. Just remember that a lot are innocent players so be careful who you report.

Remember last week, when some of us were unjustly banned?
What happened on the forums?

If they were hacking accounts, you'd see the same outcry - but from players who had their accounts hacked/stolen.

They are buying the accounts - and rumor has it, they may be getting a discount.


As to reporting innocent players - we can't get them to ban the Guilty players we report, so how is that going to matter?

If I can watch someone Teleport from node to node for 30 minutes, reporting her and recording the whole thing, then sending that with a Support request on the issue - and then see her (Same Name, same appearance, same Account ID) 5 days later......

It is obvious that the Only place our reports are reaching is the Canned Response generator.

If Zenimax has in-game GMs, it would be useful for them to frequently visit these dungeons. You can find these bots in most dungeons at the boss spawns.

I think it has become entirely evident that the games supposed support staff for in game issues is entirely fictitious. I genuinely doubt they troubled themselves to hire a staff to police their servers. That is actually quite disheartening to see in a subscription based game. You would expect to see some quality control. As it stands now cheaters, exploiters, and spammers are relatively unmolested, and if you do hear of someone getting banned.

That is typically a automated process. The server detected some behavior that it deemed to be unacceptable. Rather then a support service specialist taking a action to prevent in game harassment, cheating, exploitation, or other various bad acts.

Anyway it doesn't bode well for the game in the long term. If they are angling to go free to play in short order. Then they are going about it in the right way. The thing is people will pay for a service, but the service has to be there. They can't just let anarchy run rampant, because it will chase customers away in droves. If they don't start to nip this problem in the bud. Then repairing the game will be the least of their issues.

I am somewhat torn. I would love for them to fix my broken quests, and to fix all of the server stability issues, but bots are making the game unrewarding in the extreme. I don't even care about the achievements. I don't know what good they are to be honest, or even the loot I end up deleting, or using it up in short order, but I really want the reward of a good hard boss fight at the end of any dungeon I take the time to play through.

That is what the bots are really taking away from the game. What little fun there is to be had. They jam up the dungeons, inflate the economy, and worse they make it harder to enjoy a free flow group dynamic. I am even getting frustrated now, and I just want to grind through most of the solo content first before even turning to things like group content. Farming shouldn't even be a issue for me at this point, but it is making my adventuring less fun, and more terribly tedious.

Loxy37 wrote: »

I think a lot used hacked accounts and not all are bots but players farming the bosses which isn't cheating or exploiting. Zenimax need to change how these bosses drop loot and give xp. Just remember that a lot are innocent players so be careful who you report.

I dunno even if it have a sense, reporting those bots.
I report them by makin' videos. FRAPS + XviD4PSP (first one capturing video, secont one convert it in same but less weight: 10 sec in FRAPS is about 900-1100mb, after conversation is 50-60mb), both are freeware, simple and dont need any skills. Press F9 to capture video, press F9 to stop recording (autosave in file), open XviD4PSP, open saved video, press Coding. Profit.

Nice way to provocate bots is Scatter Shot in Bow skill line.
You can see it in one of my today videos (made it less than 30 min ago):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6PIwF7j97TRSGhlSzRuREkxWlU

In close combat its hard to prove bots, people can stand that close (not same direction, but still have a chance). But if you replace boss, bots will move after him and then return to bot place (another mine today video, same as prevous, but DK chain and not two, but dozen on them):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6PIwF7j97TRSl9SNmpGMW5DQTQ

Quality isnt great, but cmon, they was 975mb and 1,01gb before converting and 50,7mb and 55,3mb after.


I farm in dungeons because of lots and lots of loot from bosses to improve my crafting skills) I dont really mind about bots, but they may be really annoying.

I'm agree with Dodece. But c'mon, they already got bunch of moneys from us Lots of people in game have Imperial edition (about $100), others are Standart (~ $60), someone bought additional horse from Store (~$15)... $$$

I dont think that this game suits f2p model, it should be like GW2 b2p with some cosmetic store, and option to buy gold from zenimax directly. Maybe then it would be better.