It is interesting to see how VET10 endgame players get always so pumped up, screaming their wants and needs and spitting fire at anyone else - exactly the same things they do in a lot PvE instances. The other players are much more tame, talking like normal people, using logical argument instead of condescension and disdain. Veins-popping VET 10 drama queens are in need, lo and behold, all tremble for THEIR is the only right way to PLAY!

butterfly442 wrote: »

We DO need it. If only to have a high level area to hide from the botters/gold sellers. That is until they start leveling characters to VR10 in 5 minutes from hacks and bugs.

People are VR10 within the 30 day free trial already. And compared to the old MMOs, lvling is foolishly quick anyways... Well within the reach of bots.

I'm turning vet soon keep the content coming.

Audigy wrote: »

The question should better be, do we need a whole zone only for large groups - is it worth it, or will it be a waste of resources where only 5-10% of the player base will be able to go.

We do need this kind of zone in game, it will keep folks interacting with each other.

Wow is running that type of content since many years, WOTLK to be precise. The only stuff they add are those large scale raids, the subs are bleeding heavily and without the Asian market, they might not even scratch 2 million now - down from 10 million at the end of TBC.

The game was actually far more difficult before WoTLK, something like 5% of players got Hand of A'dal and far fewer saw the original lvl 60 Naxx and SWP.

I think it depends on the type of player. I recently returned after nearly a 3 year hiatus and I am finding plenty to do in game and most importantly, multiple ways to get to end game content, whether it is via PvP, Solo-PvE or Group-PvE. You don't even need to be part of a guild to kill the current final boss anymore, just prep your gear, know a basic rotation and hop into LFR. People who enjoy a classic raiding experience can still join a guild and down the content the old way, albeit at a much higher difficulty level.

Honestly, MoP is the most fun that I have had with an expansion since BC.

WoW always "bleeds" subs a few months after the last major content patch of an expansion comes out, most of those return for the launch of the next expansion. The only way that game is going to die is when Blizz stops developing new content and permanently shuts down their own realms.

I personally hope that ZO will do better and not only go for the large scale content. We still don't have a crime system and lack some important NPC guilds. It might also be wise to add housing soon, its an essential part of the ESO world.

Agreed, hopefully Zenimax will develop content with a broader range of play styles in mind. I am disappointed that the Dark Brotherhood was not added in with launch.

Unless Craglorn is hopelessly broken it is great PR for the game. A (relatively) good launch plus new content within a few weeks will attract good press. Plus, adding Craglorn shows they are intent on giving fresh content over time. Just because it will be quite a while before I ever touch it doesn't make it a bad thing. I will never touch much of the PvP system, but I don't begrudge the folks who want it any time they give it either. It takes development of new content for all play styles that will keep this game going.

Yes, there are only 3 instance dungeons (level 1-50 & optional) that are mandatory grouping.

I am tired of playing a bad online single player game.

TassenAruhn wrote: »

I mean we still have bugs in first locations, and after Craglorn (with hundreds new bugs) they will never be finished.

They're fixing bugs, slowly but surely. & I've never heard somebody cry about an MMO adding content, dear lord. Guaranteed if they didn't add the content you'd be complaining about them not putting it in game.

Never ending.