If someone is harassing you, then it's harassment. You don't need a special subset of rules to cater to roleplaying set to some specific desires of you and your friends IMO.

In the end, you are in a "public" space and should have to deal with being disturbed as long as it doesn't cross the line into ongoing harassment, just like your roleplaying (maybe not you specifically, but some roleplayers) often disturbs others around you trying to explore, quest, trade, network, etc.

ESO also offers a wide variety of housing that you and your friends can set up for a variety of needs like creating an Inn or even a town setting if you want to go truly private. Now they are even adding NPCs you can put in the homes to flesh it out more.

Trust me, as someone that does a variety of things in the game, in a public space of an MMO there will always be players that disturb what you are doing: I like questing in games like Skyrim (single player) more than MMOs b/c of how busy, especially if a zone is new, the area is. I think it ruins the experience. But on top of that, you will see players just farming zombies or whatever in some random spot and screwing up the ability to quest there in any real fashion. There are players spamming abilities at crafting stations so you cannot see your outfit sometimes. There are duels going on in the middle of crowded towns on top of players or other prime spots. There are players with combat pets like bears and twilights blocking access to crafting stations or turn ins. There are players spamming zone chat with stupid stuff. There are people in PvP that want nothing more than a cheap fight like ganking a pver there for something or that won't fight you unless they outnumber you. There are players standing around doing dumb stuff to entertain themselves all the time that can be weird. There are roleplayers sometimes doing some pretty weird stuff at random locations. You have players farming chests or mats and racing you to anything you see, or players that charge through a dungeon messing up every pull (whether instanced dungeons like a pug group, or a delve) and rush to boss and kill it and you have to wait for it to resapwn when they could have waited five seconds for you. Etc. Etc.

My point is, there are million things that annoy all of us about each other when we all have to deal with each other in a public space. If someone is harassing you, report them. But if its not harassment, then you just have to deal like the rest of us.

It amuses me that with the example of a "dumb" name, it took me a good ten seconds to figure out what was up with "Hugh Mungus." I mean, Hugh is a good Breton-sounding name, right?

Clearly, I am ill-suited to determining what is and isn't a "lore-ish" name.


Then I decided to look at canon TES names.
Upon reading through some of the Arena/Daggerfall names, I am deeply amused to see again the abiding influence that Tolkien has on modern fantasy. Turns out that Gandalf, Sauron, Saruman, Mithril, Gondore, and Aragorn are all canon TES names.

Hilariously, early Argonian names were all Roman/Greek sounding stuff like Caligula, Claudius, Germanius, and Heracles.

Other "loreish" names that are actually canon:
"Loviman Highor" (Altmer male)
"Mordyctor Gaerhart" (Breton male)
"Bedyn Wicking" (Breton Male)
"Bedyn Ashsley" (Breton male, look, Bedyn works as a bad pun with a lot of canon surnames.)
Admiral "Ak'bar" (khajiit male)
"Omgh" (Khajiit male)
"Moar" (khajiit male)
"Fa'kir" (khajiit male)
"Kjis Erarsen" (Nord male)
"Sorer" (Nord male)

In female names, we've got:
Cruelle Davel (Dunmer)
Shaginia Gaewatch (high elf)
Meta (Nord)

Its hard to proper judge Khajiit, Argonian, or nord names and surnames when you can pretty much come up with anything. I mean, we've got "Basement-Dweller" as a Khajiit surname, "Angbjar the New Guy" hanging out in the fighters guild, and "Makes-No-Soup", it's hard to tell what's serious.

So, once we get beyond the narrow bounds of canon names, there's a lot - like, seriously, A LOT - of scope for names that a hardcore RPer might not like, but are plausibly "lore-ish".

And now I'm tempted to make a female Nord named "Meta the Build-Breaker."

volkeswagon wrote: »

How do you know they are disrupting you on purpose. You can't have rules that penalizes unintentional behaviour. I know guilds that have events called tavern brawls where they go to taverns and duel. They could argue your roleplaying is disrupting them. Honestly i have never bumped into someone who I knew was roleplaying. I'm not sure what to look for. I have often thought that zos should change the game so emotes and momentos don't get canceled out by combat. I don't see a reason for it to be. That would solve your problem and appease many. Sometimes I just wanna dance without being interupted

it's pretty obvious when someone is harrassin RPers, he keeps on doing flashy skills around them for a long time. it's not a normal behaviour. and how would RPers disrupt others? it's just people talking in a place.

volkeswagon wrote: »

I guess I like to roleplay then. I love walking up to randoms and spamming emotes and then typing stuff that draws parallels to the real world. For example. I would use my eat turkey emote then type "Um. Something seems off. I'm only sensing 10 of the Colonels 11 herbs and spices"

Hahaha! If I were in the middle of an actual roleplay session, that would be super annoying. I'd definitely pretend you weren't there, maybe even put you on ignore if I was feeling grumpy that day.

I wouldn't report you, though, since you'd just be making a silly joke. However, some roleplayers--let's call them the Super Extra Very Sovereign Council of Roleplayers With Digits Within Bowels--probably would. Those roleplayers are grumps and I try not to play with them.

I think it would be easier and much better for the RP community to just use housing for their RPing no way to get trolled and they control the area so it’s way more detailed. But that’s just my two cents.

Role-playing=immersion and realism.

When you're on a crowded map in Tamriel, it's completely natural that some bonkers elves or men will be duelling like crazy, trying to prove their melt... This is how medieval worlds worked. People would get into nonsensical arguments and then beat each other to death over nothing. Instead of moaning about it and ruining your own RP, make it part of realism. If you want a quiet world where nothing happens then don't do it on MMORPGs with that many players.

Just my 2c.

Can confirm that there's a handful of individuals organized in Discord and in-game Guilds with the express purpose of targeting roleplayers and harassing them out of public spaces through harassment using duels, mudballs, mementos, and other disruptive behaviours that makes it hard to focus.

Ignoring them has not worked. I, myself, watched one of them /sit3 on the bar for 4 hours. I left to do some stuff, and 3 hours later, they were still there. /All/ day. /Trolling/ people, mud balling, harassing.

@ZOS_GinaBruno - It's getting ridiculous. The RP Hub in ESO has had to move /twice/ due to targeted, disruptive harassment. They keep finding the new place and it's a vicious cycle. They spend all day, every single day, trolling roleplayers. We just want to have our fun in peace.

starkerealm wrote: »

idk wrote: »

How do they find you?

They have spies everywhere.

Though, legitimately, the behavior they're targeting is open world RPing. As a result, they'll wander around until they encounter it, and then harassing the living **** out of anyone there.

The RP community prefers to operate out of taverns and inns as their main meeting locations, and further tends to stick to non-DLC zones. The result is that there are a finite number of places to go, and a limited number of places to check.

This. While yes, ESO is a big game, it's also not exactly hard to find RPers in Tamriel. I can usually find a group RPing in less than 15 minutes because I can follow the pattern on what venues they use and trolls use this as well as the public listings to crash events. It's why some of the RP is in player housing only--which in my opinion isn't an adequate compromise as there's only so much you can do with them and only so many people you can fit into those instances. It may work for small tavern RP, but for major RP events they can have sometimes over 20-30 people involved. I remember one event back in 2015 that had over 40 people stacked in the Temple of the Divines in Wayrest with about half of them reconvening at Cloudy Dregs Inn.

Honestly with most of my ESO RP experiences, I've mostly given up--especially when it comes to necromancers, vampires, and werewolves.

I personally think that it would be nice for rplayers to have peace but the world in Eso is open and other players might feel it infringes on their freedom to do what they want in the game if they have to limit themselves in the presence of rplayers.

I think housing is a great place for role play because it can be setup, the scene however suits the style of the role play and you can make the home inaccessible except for the people participating. You also guarantee that you won't be disturbed that way.

Sephyr wrote: »

mrsrobot wrote: »

I personally think that it would be nice for rplayers to have peace but the world in Eso is open and other players might feel it infringes on their freedom to do what they want in the game if they have to limit themselves in the presence of rplayers.

I think housing is a great place for role play because it can be setup, the scene however suits the style of the role play and you can make the home inaccessible except for the people participating. You also guarantee that you won't be disturbed that way.

But there's a massive caveat with the housing system. At most, 24 people can enter (the largest home) and some of those events can have upwards of 30 to even 60 people depending on the size of the guild running and who all attends, then other outside guilds that interact with just that guild--it's a lot to take in sometimes. Those instance caps aren't something you can easily circumvent as you can out in just your normal areas. Sure, small RP sessions work there and they often already do, however it's not a cure-all.

Yeah that's one of the drawbacks of doing it that way.