Richest Players In The Game

Rezdayn · October 2020

Hello forums,

I am making a video on the top 5 or 10 richest players in the game. I will link my channel below. If you know/are one of the richest players in the game please leave a photo below and I will contact you.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6SOmhq9-k5C5b4y6Pbf3vA?view_as=subscriber

I will need to see a photo/video and ask you a few questions for the video.

Thanks.

Edaphon · October 2020

That's basically just saying "please hack my account".

Rezdayn · October 2020

Edaphon wrote: »

That's basically just saying "please hack my account".

Nah.

If people could hack as easy as some people think the main channels and big trade guilds would never be up and running. Believe me if people could hack as easy as that I would of had my account stolen many times after the videos I have made and how salty some people get in the comments.

Honestly 99.99% of "hacking" isnt even hacking. Its people clicking on silly email links and wondering why they got a key log.

So linking a photo and being in a video is not a worry...

BleedMe_AnOcean · October 2020

This will be a fun video! Definitely subbing.

Edit: I'm already subbed! I watch your channel regularly. Good stuff!

Will they give tips, too? (Aside from buying gold, that is. Haha.)

I'm relatively new to the game (played in 2018 for a while and then came back about a month ago, currently CP193) and gold is one of those things I never seem to have enough of. Between pack merchants and bank upgrades and crafting materials, I'm always broke. 😂😂

Rezdayn · October 2020

BleedMe_AnOcean wrote: »

This will be a fun video! Definitely subbing.

Edit: I'm already subbed! I watch your channel regularly. Good stuff!

Will they give tips, too? (Aside from buying gold, that is. Haha.)

I'm relatively new to the game (played in 2018 for a while and then came back about a month ago, currently CP193) and gold is one of those things I never seem to have enough of. Between pack merchants and bank upgrades and crafting materials, I'm always broke. 😂😂

The plan was to make a top 5 or 10 video on the "richest" players who participate. As stated by people above the richest players will be people who bot to sell gold but I would of only selected legit looking players. Plus bot accounts wouldnt want to be in the video and draw attention to themselves anyways. I was going to ask each person who got into the video basic questions like how long they have played, how they made the majority of their gold etc.

However this community is pure salt... so people are having a cry... already... I swear you can put a video of a kitten on youtube and people will still have a cry about something...

Apparently hackers who could make good money hacking something worth hacking are busy lurking in the shadows of ESO trying to steal accounts and gold... yawn...

In reality its a bunch of hypochondriacs with 100k overreacting...

Stinkyremy · October 2020

BleedMe_AnOcean wrote: »

This will be a fun video! Definitely subbing.

Edit: I'm already subbed! I watch your channel regularly. Good stuff!

Will they give tips, too? (Aside from buying gold, that is. Haha.)

I'm relatively new to the game (played in 2018 for a while and then came back about a month ago, currently CP193) and gold is one of those things I never seem to have enough of. Between pack merchants and bank upgrades and crafting materials, I'm always broke. 😂😂

Don't buy crafting material, farm them. You should have been deconning every green/blue/purple up to 160 and beyond until you have a stash of improvement mats. Farming and refining all your way while questing to max CP will line your pockets full of mats to rarely ever have to buy them again (including doing daily writs)
Don't sell glyphs, decon them, sell all trash gear.
These are all future proofing your pockets by never having to buy runes or mats.

Gold comes naturally without applying effort, it's more about future proofing your mat reserves while not wasting cash on trash. The initial first time playing is tough because you don't know what you are doing and have a lot to spend on inv space and mount.

Doing your daily writs, doing daily pledges and quests and selling all the trash loot nets you a lot of gold. Do this on multiple toons and you are set. 40k daily easy on 8 toons just doing daily writs which take 10-20 mins, but you needed to do that initial farming first to have the mats to do writs on 8 chars daily. That's why you do it while questing.
Sell all the gear you find while questing and you will soon be making millions passively just by playing.
If you are fortunate (like me recently) you can find a one off furniture plan or something that goes for 300k.

As for the bag space, this is a well worth investment. The last 1 or 2 bank space is a big gold sink, may not be worth it for a while until you actually need it. Use alts as mules, which will become easier in November. Also you can do the maths, it might be cheaper to buy crowns from another player to buy those last bank spaces than buying from in game (I can't remember the cost, been many years)

Sergykid · October 2020

Stinkyremy wrote: »

40k daily easy on 8 toons just doing daily writs which take 10-20 mins

it's 600 gold per quest. 7 quests = 4200 gold. 8 chars = 33600, where is 40k from?
and it's not entirely 10-20 mins. Your materials will end at some point and you have to go use the surveys which take hours.

Lysette · October 2020

Sergykid wrote: »

Stinkyremy wrote: »

40k daily easy on 8 toons just doing daily writs which take 10-20 mins

it's 600 gold per quest. 7 quests = 4200 gold. 8 chars = 33600, where is 40k from?
and it's not entirely 10-20 mins. Your materials will end at some point and you have to go use the surveys which take hours.

It's still roughly 40k because you occasionally get gold tempers and stuff which worth has to be added to the normal payout. The 10-20 minutes figure though is void - I guess he has never really done it - it takes more than an hour to get it done.

Stinkyremy · October 2020

Sergykid wrote: »

Stinkyremy wrote: »

40k daily easy on 8 toons just doing daily writs which take 10-20 mins

it's 600 gold per quest. 7 quests = 4200 gold. 8 chars = 33600, where is 40k from?
and it's not entirely 10-20 mins. Your materials will end at some point and you have to go use the surveys which take hours.

The loot you get from the quest. Ornates ect. Also I get 4.6k per set of daily writs. ESO +10%
My materials will never end. They are self sustainable and surveys don't take hours. You just stack them all, wait for a 10 stack in 1 location and go grab that.
Obviously I was farming from level 1 to max CP which was 520 when I go to it. Still farm when I want mainly only jewellery nodes now plus columbine and cornflower if I see them.
I also don't use all alts doing max cloth writs as I don't want to waste the hardest to gather of the 3 base materials on a slim chance to get master writs or wax while I have 1000s of CP 80-15 mats I will never use or be able to sell.

Damn I even "have to" sell my rubedite or and ash wood or I sit on 20-30k each that I will never use.

All the noob game farming makes you end up with so many mats it sets you for the rest of the game, end game.

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tmbrinks · October 2020

Stinkyremy wrote: »

Sergykid wrote: »

Stinkyremy wrote: »

40k daily easy on 8 toons just doing daily writs which take 10-20 mins

it's 600 gold per quest. 7 quests = 4200 gold. 8 chars = 33600, where is 40k from?
and it's not entirely 10-20 mins. Your materials will end at some point and you have to go use the surveys which take hours.

The loot you get from the quest. Ornates ect. Also I get 4.6k per set of daily writs. ESO +10%
My materials will never end. They are self sustainable and surveys don't take hours. You just stack them all, wait for a 10 stack in 1 location and go grab that.
Obviously I was farming from level 1 to max CP which was 520 when I go to it. Still farm when I want mainly only jewellery nodes now plus columbine and cornflower if I see them.
I also don't use all alts doing max cloth writs as I don't want to waste the hardest to gather of the 3 base materials on a slim chance to get master writs or wax while I have 1000s of CP 80-15 mats I will never use or be able to sell.

Damn I even "have to" sell my rubedite or and ash wood or I sit on 20-30k each that I will never use.

All the noob game farming makes you end up with so many mats it sets you for the rest of the game, end game.

The profit in daily writs is not from the paltry amount of "quest" gold that you get.

It's from the gold improvement materials that drop, which have the highest chance of dropping doing them at maximum level.

Doing writs at anything other than the maximum level is leaving gold and profit on the table. (the only exception is for provisioning, it's about the same regardless of level, but it doesn't drop any gold materials)

Avoranti · October 2020

This is interesting to me. I‘ll assume the owners of the bot accounts are the richest in game.

As for guild traders being “hacked” or whatever... no, but they have to be getting manipulated some how, at least on ps4. Lots of guilds who normally have traders haven’t been able to obtain them lately for some reason and keep losing out to guilds no ones heard of. When you look in their traders they have nothing of value. So it brings into question how are they out bidding known trade guilds?

Lastly, a question, what’s the gold cap? I assumed from watching pts streams that it’s 999,999,999 but someone shared an image via Facebook of a player with 7 billion gold. How is that even possible?

zaria · October 2020

tmbrinks wrote: »

Stinkyremy wrote: »

Sergykid wrote: »

Stinkyremy wrote: »

40k daily easy on 8 toons just doing daily writs which take 10-20 mins

it's 600 gold per quest. 7 quests = 4200 gold. 8 chars = 33600, where is 40k from?
and it's not entirely 10-20 mins. Your materials will end at some point and you have to go use the surveys which take hours.

The loot you get from the quest. Ornates ect. Also I get 4.6k per set of daily writs. ESO +10%
My materials will never end. They are self sustainable and surveys don't take hours. You just stack them all, wait for a 10 stack in 1 location and go grab that.
Obviously I was farming from level 1 to max CP which was 520 when I go to it. Still farm when I want mainly only jewellery nodes now plus columbine and cornflower if I see them.
I also don't use all alts doing max cloth writs as I don't want to waste the hardest to gather of the 3 base materials on a slim chance to get master writs or wax while I have 1000s of CP 80-15 mats I will never use or be able to sell.

Damn I even "have to" sell my rubedite or and ash wood or I sit on 20-30k each that I will never use.

All the noob game farming makes you end up with so many mats it sets you for the rest of the game, end game.

The profit in daily writs is not from the paltry amount of "quest" gold that you get.

It's from the gold improvement materials that drop, which have the highest chance of dropping doing them at maximum level.

Doing writs at anything other than the maximum level is leaving gold and profit on the table. (the only exception is for provisioning, it's about the same regardless of level, but it doesn't drop any gold materials)

Doing especially clothing writs on alts with crafting level 1is an way to get cheap surveys.
But yes you are better off doing max level for the gold tempers and master writs although the master writ marked is very slow now. For some reason I'm a bit low on jewelry and ancestor silk. The other materials I have thousands of.

Rezdayn · October 2020

Avoranti wrote: »

This is interesting to me. I‘ll assume the owners of the bot accounts are the richest in game.

As for guild traders being “hacked” or whatever... no, but they have to be getting manipulated some how, at least on ps4. Lots of guilds who normally have traders haven’t been able to obtain them lately for some reason and keep losing out to guilds no ones heard of. When you look in their traders they have nothing of value. So it brings into question how are they out bidding known trade guilds?

Lastly, a question, what’s the gold cap? I assumed from watching pts streams that it’s 999,999,999 but someone shared an image via Facebook of a player with 7 billion gold. How is that even possible?

Yea I dont know for sure but would also assume the bots are the richest.

I am just curious and thought it would be a interesting video.

Turns out the community doesnt want content made.

Bucky_13 · October 2020

Lysette wrote: »

Sergykid wrote: »

Stinkyremy wrote: »

40k daily easy on 8 toons just doing daily writs which take 10-20 mins

it's 600 gold per quest. 7 quests = 4200 gold. 8 chars = 33600, where is 40k from?
and it's not entirely 10-20 mins. Your materials will end at some point and you have to go use the surveys which take hours.

It's still roughly 40k because you occasionally get gold tempers and stuff which worth has to be added to the normal payout. The 10-20 minutes figure though is void - I guess he has never really done it - it takes more than an hour to get it done.

I do daily writs on 12 characters, it takes me roughly 40 minutes, but I don't rush or use all the time savers in the addon so it can be done in 30 minutes if I wanted to. 8 toons in 20 minutes is very realistic, it will boil down to how long the load screens take. Without addons it does take far longer.

Sarousse · October 2020

It's easy to get rich in this game.

Make several toons, but equip only one. There goes the money.

If you start equiping several chars... It's an endless sink of gold

Stinkyremy · October 2020

tmbrinks wrote: »

Stinkyremy wrote: »

Sergykid wrote: »

Stinkyremy wrote: »

40k daily easy on 8 toons just doing daily writs which take 10-20 mins

it's 600 gold per quest. 7 quests = 4200 gold. 8 chars = 33600, where is 40k from?
and it's not entirely 10-20 mins. Your materials will end at some point and you have to go use the surveys which take hours.

The loot you get from the quest. Ornates ect. Also I get 4.6k per set of daily writs. ESO +10%
My materials will never end. They are self sustainable and surveys don't take hours. You just stack them all, wait for a 10 stack in 1 location and go grab that.
Obviously I was farming from level 1 to max CP which was 520 when I go to it. Still farm when I want mainly only jewellery nodes now plus columbine and cornflower if I see them.
I also don't use all alts doing max cloth writs as I don't want to waste the hardest to gather of the 3 base materials on a slim chance to get master writs or wax while I have 1000s of CP 80-15 mats I will never use or be able to sell.

Damn I even "have to" sell my rubedite or and ash wood or I sit on 20-30k each that I will never use.

All the noob game farming makes you end up with so many mats it sets you for the rest of the game, end game.

The profit in daily writs is not from the paltry amount of "quest" gold that you get.

It's from the gold improvement materials that drop, which have the highest chance of dropping doing them at maximum level.

Doing writs at anything other than the maximum level is leaving gold and profit on the table. (the only exception is for provisioning, it's about the same regardless of level, but it doesn't drop any gold materials)

Actually no you have it completely backwards, the profit from daily writs comes from never having to ever farm again!
A measly 1 wax drop from RNG a week (Idk average RNG drop rate I'm just making a point) is not worth the time or mats to do it but what is worth the time is managing to turn 40 void cloth you will never use but keep getting dumped with into a possible chance to get a survey you can turn into 200 raw ancestor silk. Obviously the raw silk has the chance to be refined for wax too. Surveys and gold mats still drop on lower levels too!
From my experience, though I have not especially been monitoring it, the drop rate of surveys and gold improvement mats are no more or less than on a max writ level. The only thing that makes a difference on max writ level is dropping master writs.
So with that knowledge it is a smart move to have alts doing writs on multiple levels of mats to turn the "trash mats" into top mats via surveys.
On the other side of that too, provisioning drops recipes from the level they are done, so I have and do get recipes drop from levels below max that my main crafter is literally unable to find in game (as low level recipes don't drop), including purple recipes that will cost you big cash in store. You can sell the excess purple recipes too.

tmbrinks · October 2020

zaria wrote: »

tmbrinks wrote: »

Stinkyremy wrote: »

Sergykid wrote: »

Stinkyremy wrote: »

40k daily easy on 8 toons just doing daily writs which take 10-20 mins

it's 600 gold per quest. 7 quests = 4200 gold. 8 chars = 33600, where is 40k from?
and it's not entirely 10-20 mins. Your materials will end at some point and you have to go use the surveys which take hours.

The loot you get from the quest. Ornates ect. Also I get 4.6k per set of daily writs. ESO +10%
My materials will never end. They are self sustainable and surveys don't take hours. You just stack them all, wait for a 10 stack in 1 location and go grab that.
Obviously I was farming from level 1 to max CP which was 520 when I go to it. Still farm when I want mainly only jewellery nodes now plus columbine and cornflower if I see them.
I also don't use all alts doing max cloth writs as I don't want to waste the hardest to gather of the 3 base materials on a slim chance to get master writs or wax while I have 1000s of CP 80-15 mats I will never use or be able to sell.

Damn I even "have to" sell my rubedite or and ash wood or I sit on 20-30k each that I will never use.

All the noob game farming makes you end up with so many mats it sets you for the rest of the game, end game.

The profit in daily writs is not from the paltry amount of "quest" gold that you get.

It's from the gold improvement materials that drop, which have the highest chance of dropping doing them at maximum level.

Doing writs at anything other than the maximum level is leaving gold and profit on the table. (the only exception is for provisioning, it's about the same regardless of level, but it doesn't drop any gold materials)

Doing especially clothing writs on alts with crafting level 1is an way to get cheap surveys.
But yes you are better off doing max level for the gold tempers and master writs although the master writ marked is very slow now. For some reason I'm a bit low on jewelry and ancestor silk. The other materials I have thousands of.

Not arguing that. (I didn't even mention master writs)

Yes, low level writs are self-replenishing, you can get surveys (for higher level materials).

But a weeks worth of clothing writs gives you 7 x 662 gold = 4.6k gold. One single Dreugh Wax is worth nearly 9k on PC NA, almost twice as much as the gold from doing the writ. At max level you have a 30% chance of getting a Wax to drop, so you can expect about 2 a week per character. That's 18k gold you're giving up. And you have the same chance of getting the surveys. You can easily buy the extra materials, and still end up way ahead.

Jewelry does not replenish at nearly the same rate as the other crafts WW/Cloth/BS return 15 materials (or a survey) on ~40 used, or about 37% return. Jewelry returns 7 (or a survey) on ~28 used or 25% You also have a WW/Cloth/BS hireling while there isn't one for Jewelry.

VaranisArano · October 2020

Rezdayn wrote: »

Avoranti wrote: »

This is interesting to me. I‘ll assume the owners of the bot accounts are the richest in game.

As for guild traders being “hacked” or whatever... no, but they have to be getting manipulated some how, at least on ps4. Lots of guilds who normally have traders haven’t been able to obtain them lately for some reason and keep losing out to guilds no ones heard of. When you look in their traders they have nothing of value. So it brings into question how are they out bidding known trade guilds?

Lastly, a question, what’s the gold cap? I assumed from watching pts streams that it’s 999,999,999 but someone shared an image via Facebook of a player with 7 billion gold. How is that even possible?

Yea I dont know for sure but would also assume the bots are the richest.

I am just curious and thought it would be a interesting video.

Turns out the community doesnt want content made.

I couldn't even begin to guess who the richest players are on PC/NA, much less the whole game. At best, I could maybe figure out the top sellers in my trading guilds - which isn't saying much. And who knows if they are active on the forums?

You might have better luck just setting a benchmark gold amount and asking people over that amount to contact you if they want to be interviewed. Or you could try making a poll about how much gold we have, then PMing the richer folks to ask if they'd like to be interviewed.

tmbrinks · October 2020

Stinkyremy wrote: »

tmbrinks wrote: »

Stinkyremy wrote: »

Sergykid wrote: »

Stinkyremy wrote: »

40k daily easy on 8 toons just doing daily writs which take 10-20 mins

it's 600 gold per quest. 7 quests = 4200 gold. 8 chars = 33600, where is 40k from?
and it's not entirely 10-20 mins. Your materials will end at some point and you have to go use the surveys which take hours.

The loot you get from the quest. Ornates ect. Also I get 4.6k per set of daily writs. ESO +10%
My materials will never end. They are self sustainable and surveys don't take hours. You just stack them all, wait for a 10 stack in 1 location and go grab that.
Obviously I was farming from level 1 to max CP which was 520 when I go to it. Still farm when I want mainly only jewellery nodes now plus columbine and cornflower if I see them.
I also don't use all alts doing max cloth writs as I don't want to waste the hardest to gather of the 3 base materials on a slim chance to get master writs or wax while I have 1000s of CP 80-15 mats I will never use or be able to sell.

Damn I even "have to" sell my rubedite or and ash wood or I sit on 20-30k each that I will never use.

All the noob game farming makes you end up with so many mats it sets you for the rest of the game, end game.

The profit in daily writs is not from the paltry amount of "quest" gold that you get.

It's from the gold improvement materials that drop, which have the highest chance of dropping doing them at maximum level.

Doing writs at anything other than the maximum level is leaving gold and profit on the table. (the only exception is for provisioning, it's about the same regardless of level, but it doesn't drop any gold materials)

Actually no you have it completely backwards, the profit from daily writs comes from never having to ever farm again!
A measly 1 wax drop from RNG a week (Idk average RNG drop rate I'm just making a point) is not worth the time or mats to do it but what is worth the time is managing to turn 40 void cloth you will never use but keep getting dumped with into a possible chance to get a survey you can turn into 200 raw ancestor silk. Obviously the raw silk has the chance to be refined for wax too. Surveys and gold mats still drop on lower levels too!
From my experience, though I have not especially been monitoring it, the drop rate of surveys and gold improvement mats are no more or less than on a max writ level. The only thing that makes a difference on max writ level is dropping master writs.
So with that knowledge it is a smart move to have alts doing writs on multiple levels of mats to turn the "trash mats" into top mats via surveys.
On the other side of that too, provisioning drops recipes from the level they are done, so I have and do get recipes drop from levels below max that my main crafter is literally unable to find in game (as low level recipes don't drop), including purple recipes that will cost you big cash in store. You can sell the excess purple recipes too.

Please read the link in my signature. I have done over 150,000 daily writs, and have tracked all the data! I know EXACTLY what I'm talking about

The drop rates are established and well known. I have evaluated the costs based on the input cost and value of rewards to calculate profit margins. They are most effective at maximum level.

Gold mat drop rate is about 3% at minumum level. 30% at maximum level. This means you can expect 2 gold mats per week, per craft, per character. If you're only getting 1, it's because you're doing them at lower levels.

Rezdayn · October 2020

tmbrinks wrote: »

Stinkyremy wrote: »

tmbrinks wrote: »

Stinkyremy wrote: »

Sergykid wrote: »

Stinkyremy wrote: »

40k daily easy on 8 toons just doing daily writs which take 10-20 mins

it's 600 gold per quest. 7 quests = 4200 gold. 8 chars = 33600, where is 40k from?
and it's not entirely 10-20 mins. Your materials will end at some point and you have to go use the surveys which take hours.

The loot you get from the quest. Ornates ect. Also I get 4.6k per set of daily writs. ESO +10%
My materials will never end. They are self sustainable and surveys don't take hours. You just stack them all, wait for a 10 stack in 1 location and go grab that.
Obviously I was farming from level 1 to max CP which was 520 when I go to it. Still farm when I want mainly only jewellery nodes now plus columbine and cornflower if I see them.
I also don't use all alts doing max cloth writs as I don't want to waste the hardest to gather of the 3 base materials on a slim chance to get master writs or wax while I have 1000s of CP 80-15 mats I will never use or be able to sell.

Damn I even "have to" sell my rubedite or and ash wood or I sit on 20-30k each that I will never use.

All the noob game farming makes you end up with so many mats it sets you for the rest of the game, end game.

The profit in daily writs is not from the paltry amount of "quest" gold that you get.

It's from the gold improvement materials that drop, which have the highest chance of dropping doing them at maximum level.

Doing writs at anything other than the maximum level is leaving gold and profit on the table. (the only exception is for provisioning, it's about the same regardless of level, but it doesn't drop any gold materials)

Actually no you have it completely backwards, the profit from daily writs comes from never having to ever farm again!
A measly 1 wax drop from RNG a week (Idk average RNG drop rate I'm just making a point) is not worth the time or mats to do it but what is worth the time is managing to turn 40 void cloth you will never use but keep getting dumped with into a possible chance to get a survey you can turn into 200 raw ancestor silk. Obviously the raw silk has the chance to be refined for wax too. Surveys and gold mats still drop on lower levels too!
From my experience, though I have not especially been monitoring it, the drop rate of surveys and gold improvement mats are no more or less than on a max writ level. The only thing that makes a difference on max writ level is dropping master writs.
So with that knowledge it is a smart move to have alts doing writs on multiple levels of mats to turn the "trash mats" into top mats via surveys.
On the other side of that too, provisioning drops recipes from the level they are done, so I have and do get recipes drop from levels below max that my main crafter is literally unable to find in game (as low level recipes don't drop), including purple recipes that will cost you big cash in store. You can sell the excess purple recipes too.

Please read the link in my signature. I have done over 150,000 daily writs, and have tracked all the data! I know EXACTLY what I'm talking about The drop rates are established and well known. I have evaluated the costs based on the input cost and value of rewards to calculate profit margins. They are most effective at maximum level.

Gold mat drop rate is about 3% at minumum level. 30% at maximum level. This means you can expect 2 gold mats per week, per craft, per character. If you're only getting 1, it's because you're doing them at lower levels.

Dont bother explaining it to them... They came in hot to this topic and everything they say is dripping with "I know everything". He doesnt even realize he is talking to one of the richest players in the game who is pretty much if not the pinnacle of writ knowledge...

and even if he did know... he would still always be right.

geonsocal · October 2020

VaranisArano wrote: »

Rezdayn wrote: »

Avoranti wrote: »

This is interesting to me. I‘ll assume the owners of the bot accounts are the richest in game.

As for guild traders being “hacked” or whatever... no, but they have to be getting manipulated some how, at least on ps4. Lots of guilds who normally have traders haven’t been able to obtain them lately for some reason and keep losing out to guilds no ones heard of. When you look in their traders they have nothing of value. So it brings into question how are they out bidding known trade guilds?

Lastly, a question, what’s the gold cap? I assumed from watching pts streams that it’s 999,999,999 but someone shared an image via Facebook of a player with 7 billion gold. How is that even possible?

Yea I dont know for sure but would also assume the bots are the richest.

I am just curious and thought it would be a interesting video.

Turns out the community doesnt want content made.

You might have better luck just setting a benchmark gold amount and asking people over that amount to contact you if they want to be interviewed. Or you could try making a poll about how much gold we have, then PMing the richer folks to ask if they'd like to be interviewed.

that makes really good sense...your brain is simply OP at times varanis

hope you'e back where you belong and teaching others...

rezdayn, don't get so discouraged so easily by some strangers, it ain't personal - it's the internet...sounds like you have a great idea...

Urvoth · October 2020

A lot of the richest players in game don't just horde gold, so going only off a gold amount is likely to be deceptive. It's quite common for "rich" players to load up on materials, motifs, furnishing plans, etc., essentially holding certain items that are likely to appreciate in value over time since the ESO economy is in a state of constant inflation due to easy access to gold. On top of that, you have "rich" players that have spent tens of millions on gold to crown trading since after a certain point, holding gold becomes more and more pointless.

markulrich1966 · October 2020

the richest I know wrote me about a year ago that he has 300 mio gold.
He achieves this by using 11 accounts for trading, so he has has trading accounts in every guild, in some more than one. He runs an own guild so that he can give the furniture he crafted to his other accounts avoiding the ban that guildmasters experienced sending items using mail.

Meanwhile he dominates the market prices on that server. While I honor his hard work and success he has, I see the problematic implications, that such a strategy can destroy the chance for other players using only 1 account, as they have no chance to compete with him.

Rezdayn · October 2020

Urvoth wrote: »

A lot of the richest players in game don't just horde gold, so going only off an inventory value is likely to be deceptive. It's quite common for "rich" players to load up on materials, motifs, furnishing plans, etc., essentially holding certain items that are likely to appreciate in value over time since the ESO economy is in a state of constant inflation due to easy access to gold. On top of that, you have "rich" players that have spent tens of millions on gold to crown trading since after a certain point, holding gold becomes more and more pointless.

Thats a good point and I will need to account for that. Thanks.

CaffeinatedMayhem · October 2020

Urvoth wrote: »

A lot of the richest players in game don't just horde gold, so going only off an inventory value is likely to be deceptive. It's quite common for "rich" players to load up on materials, motifs, furnishing plans, etc., essentially holding certain items that are likely to appreciate in value over time since the ESO economy is in a state of constant inflation due to easy access to gold. On top of that, you have "rich" players that have spent tens of millions on gold to crown trading since after a certain point, holding gold becomes more and more pointless.

This plus.... I do know some very wealthy players. I've shared as many as 3 guilds with them, so I know their weekly sales. Extrapolating to the other 2 trade guilds give 75-100 million each week in income. I have no idea how much of that is profit, definitely not the full amount.

That being said...

Some of these same people also consistently buy crowns at a steep discount, in guild chat; 100:1 when PC/NA is at 200:1. Nothing illegal about that, but looks a lot different if you know they are raking in upwards of 20 mil a week. Some of them are GMs of trade guilds, and I know their guilds would look skeptically on the "we need more money!" weekly mails if they knew what their GM was really making. Disclaimer: I do know a LOT of GMs put their personal wealth into their guilds. I also know some who do NOT.

Even if some players do agree to a feature, you're not going to get the absolute richest players on PC/NA.

Elvenheart · October 2020

tmbrinks wrote: »

Stinkyremy wrote: »

tmbrinks wrote: »

Stinkyremy wrote: »

Sergykid wrote: »

Stinkyremy wrote: »

40k daily easy on 8 toons just doing daily writs which take 10-20 mins

it's 600 gold per quest. 7 quests = 4200 gold. 8 chars = 33600, where is 40k from?
and it's not entirely 10-20 mins. Your materials will end at some point and you have to go use the surveys which take hours.

The loot you get from the quest. Ornates ect. Also I get 4.6k per set of daily writs. ESO +10%
My materials will never end. They are self sustainable and surveys don't take hours. You just stack them all, wait for a 10 stack in 1 location and go grab that.
Obviously I was farming from level 1 to max CP which was 520 when I go to it. Still farm when I want mainly only jewellery nodes now plus columbine and cornflower if I see them.
I also don't use all alts doing max cloth writs as I don't want to waste the hardest to gather of the 3 base materials on a slim chance to get master writs or wax while I have 1000s of CP 80-15 mats I will never use or be able to sell.

Damn I even "have to" sell my rubedite or and ash wood or I sit on 20-30k each that I will never use.

All the noob game farming makes you end up with so many mats it sets you for the rest of the game, end game.

The profit in daily writs is not from the paltry amount of "quest" gold that you get.

It's from the gold improvement materials that drop, which have the highest chance of dropping doing them at maximum level.

Doing writs at anything other than the maximum level is leaving gold and profit on the table. (the only exception is for provisioning, it's about the same regardless of level, but it doesn't drop any gold materials)

Actually no you have it completely backwards, the profit from daily writs comes from never having to ever farm again!
A measly 1 wax drop from RNG a week (Idk average RNG drop rate I'm just making a point) is not worth the time or mats to do it but what is worth the time is managing to turn 40 void cloth you will never use but keep getting dumped with into a possible chance to get a survey you can turn into 200 raw ancestor silk. Obviously the raw silk has the chance to be refined for wax too. Surveys and gold mats still drop on lower levels too!
From my experience, though I have not especially been monitoring it, the drop rate of surveys and gold improvement mats are no more or less than on a max writ level. The only thing that makes a difference on max writ level is dropping master writs.
So with that knowledge it is a smart move to have alts doing writs on multiple levels of mats to turn the "trash mats" into top mats via surveys.
On the other side of that too, provisioning drops recipes from the level they are done, so I have and do get recipes drop from levels below max that my main crafter is literally unable to find in game (as low level recipes don't drop), including purple recipes that will cost you big cash in store. You can sell the excess purple recipes too.

Please read the link in my signature. I have done over 150,000 daily writs, and have tracked all the data! I know EXACTLY what I'm talking about The drop rates are established and well known. I have evaluated the costs based on the input cost and value of rewards to calculate profit margins. They are most effective at maximum level.

Gold mat drop rate is about 3% at minumum level. 30% at maximum level. This means you can expect 2 gold mats per week, per craft, per character. If you're only getting 1, it's because you're doing them at lower levels.

Hi, I’ve seen you mention the link in your signature in other posts but I’ve never been able to find your signature. Maybe because I’m on the mobile version of the forums? But it sounds really interesting and I hope I can figure out how to get to it soon!

SidraWillowsky · October 2020

Elvenheart wrote: »

tmbrinks wrote: »

Stinkyremy wrote: »

tmbrinks wrote: »

Stinkyremy wrote: »

Sergykid wrote: »

Stinkyremy wrote: »

40k daily easy on 8 toons just doing daily writs which take 10-20 mins

it's 600 gold per quest. 7 quests = 4200 gold. 8 chars = 33600, where is 40k from?
and it's not entirely 10-20 mins. Your materials will end at some point and you have to go use the surveys which take hours.

The loot you get from the quest. Ornates ect. Also I get 4.6k per set of daily writs. ESO +10%
My materials will never end. They are self sustainable and surveys don't take hours. You just stack them all, wait for a 10 stack in 1 location and go grab that.
Obviously I was farming from level 1 to max CP which was 520 when I go to it. Still farm when I want mainly only jewellery nodes now plus columbine and cornflower if I see them.
I also don't use all alts doing max cloth writs as I don't want to waste the hardest to gather of the 3 base materials on a slim chance to get master writs or wax while I have 1000s of CP 80-15 mats I will never use or be able to sell.

Damn I even "have to" sell my rubedite or and ash wood or I sit on 20-30k each that I will never use.

All the noob game farming makes you end up with so many mats it sets you for the rest of the game, end game.

The profit in daily writs is not from the paltry amount of "quest" gold that you get.

It's from the gold improvement materials that drop, which have the highest chance of dropping doing them at maximum level.

Doing writs at anything other than the maximum level is leaving gold and profit on the table. (the only exception is for provisioning, it's about the same regardless of level, but it doesn't drop any gold materials)

Actually no you have it completely backwards, the profit from daily writs comes from never having to ever farm again!
A measly 1 wax drop from RNG a week (Idk average RNG drop rate I'm just making a point) is not worth the time or mats to do it but what is worth the time is managing to turn 40 void cloth you will never use but keep getting dumped with into a possible chance to get a survey you can turn into 200 raw ancestor silk. Obviously the raw silk has the chance to be refined for wax too. Surveys and gold mats still drop on lower levels too!
From my experience, though I have not especially been monitoring it, the drop rate of surveys and gold improvement mats are no more or less than on a max writ level. The only thing that makes a difference on max writ level is dropping master writs.
So with that knowledge it is a smart move to have alts doing writs on multiple levels of mats to turn the "trash mats" into top mats via surveys.
On the other side of that too, provisioning drops recipes from the level they are done, so I have and do get recipes drop from levels below max that my main crafter is literally unable to find in game (as low level recipes don't drop), including purple recipes that will cost you big cash in store. You can sell the excess purple recipes too.

Please read the link in my signature. I have done over 150,000 daily writs, and have tracked all the data! I know EXACTLY what I'm talking about The drop rates are established and well known. I have evaluated the costs based on the input cost and value of rewards to calculate profit margins. They are most effective at maximum level.

Gold mat drop rate is about 3% at minumum level. 30% at maximum level. This means you can expect 2 gold mats per week, per craft, per character. If you're only getting 1, it's because you're doing them at lower levels.

Hi, I’ve seen you mention the link in your signature in other posts but I’ve never been able to find your signature. Maybe because I’m on the mobile version of the forums? But it sounds really interesting and I hope I can figure out how to get to it soon!

Thread: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/459690/tracking-daily-writ-reward-drop-rates-refining-rates

Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yQDUjYNQVsIFl0ktkbkSlfYPkzP6pgCOTMQ-qCuzfaI/edit#gid=1019946123

I'm sure this is possible in other mobile web browsers, but on mobile Chrome, if you click on the three dots in the upper righthand corner, you can check "view desktop site" and can view in desktop mode. It's unwieldy, but you can check signatures that way and then change right back to mobile.

idk · October 2020

Stinkyremy wrote: »

tmbrinks wrote: »

Stinkyremy wrote: »

Sergykid wrote: »

Stinkyremy wrote: »

40k daily easy on 8 toons just doing daily writs which take 10-20 mins

it's 600 gold per quest. 7 quests = 4200 gold. 8 chars = 33600, where is 40k from?
and it's not entirely 10-20 mins. Your materials will end at some point and you have to go use the surveys which take hours.

The loot you get from the quest. Ornates ect. Also I get 4.6k per set of daily writs. ESO +10%
My materials will never end. They are self sustainable and surveys don't take hours. You just stack them all, wait for a 10 stack in 1 location and go grab that.
Obviously I was farming from level 1 to max CP which was 520 when I go to it. Still farm when I want mainly only jewellery nodes now plus columbine and cornflower if I see them.
I also don't use all alts doing max cloth writs as I don't want to waste the hardest to gather of the 3 base materials on a slim chance to get master writs or wax while I have 1000s of CP 80-15 mats I will never use or be able to sell.

Damn I even "have to" sell my rubedite or and ash wood or I sit on 20-30k each that I will never use.

All the noob game farming makes you end up with so many mats it sets you for the rest of the game, end game.

The profit in daily writs is not from the paltry amount of "quest" gold that you get.

It's from the gold improvement materials that drop, which have the highest chance of dropping doing them at maximum level.

Doing writs at anything other than the maximum level is leaving gold and profit on the table. (the only exception is for provisioning, it's about the same regardless of level, but it doesn't drop any gold materials)

Actually no you have it completely backwards, the profit from daily writs comes from never having to ever farm again!
A measly 1 wax drop from RNG a week (Idk average RNG drop rate I'm just making a point) is not worth the time or mats to do it but what is worth the time is managing to turn 40 void cloth you will never use but keep getting dumped with into a possible chance to get a survey you can turn into 200 raw ancestor silk. Obviously the raw silk has the chance to be refined for wax too. Surveys and gold mats still drop on lower levels too!
From my experience, though I have not especially been monitoring it, the drop rate of surveys and gold improvement mats are no more or less than on a max writ level. The only thing that makes a difference on max writ level is dropping master writs.
So with that knowledge it is a smart move to have alts doing writs on multiple levels of mats to turn the "trash mats" into top mats via surveys.
On the other side of that too, provisioning drops recipes from the level they are done, so I have and do get recipes drop from levels below max that my main crafter is literally unable to find in game (as low level recipes don't drop), including purple recipes that will cost you big cash in store. You can sell the excess purple recipes too.

@Stinkyremy

You are arguing this point with the one person in the forums, in the entire game, that when they speak of such things they have been tracking this specific information like this for years. Pretty much most that request the forums knows tmbrinks is the expert on such information.

idk · October 2020

Edaphon wrote: »

That's basically just saying "please hack my account".

True.

And how would anyone know if they are one of the richest players in the game? As such the video would be of those who would like to think they are one of the richest players in the game and are arrogant enough over something so unimportant that they would come forward for such a project.

idk · October 2020

Elvenheart wrote: »

tmbrinks wrote: »

Stinkyremy wrote: »

tmbrinks wrote: »

Stinkyremy wrote: »

Sergykid wrote: »

Stinkyremy wrote: »

40k daily easy on 8 toons just doing daily writs which take 10-20 mins

it's 600 gold per quest. 7 quests = 4200 gold. 8 chars = 33600, where is 40k from?
and it's not entirely 10-20 mins. Your materials will end at some point and you have to go use the surveys which take hours.

The loot you get from the quest. Ornates ect. Also I get 4.6k per set of daily writs. ESO +10%
My materials will never end. They are self sustainable and surveys don't take hours. You just stack them all, wait for a 10 stack in 1 location and go grab that.
Obviously I was farming from level 1 to max CP which was 520 when I go to it. Still farm when I want mainly only jewellery nodes now plus columbine and cornflower if I see them.
I also don't use all alts doing max cloth writs as I don't want to waste the hardest to gather of the 3 base materials on a slim chance to get master writs or wax while I have 1000s of CP 80-15 mats I will never use or be able to sell.

Damn I even "have to" sell my rubedite or and ash wood or I sit on 20-30k each that I will never use.

All the noob game farming makes you end up with so many mats it sets you for the rest of the game, end game.

The profit in daily writs is not from the paltry amount of "quest" gold that you get.

It's from the gold improvement materials that drop, which have the highest chance of dropping doing them at maximum level.

Doing writs at anything other than the maximum level is leaving gold and profit on the table. (the only exception is for provisioning, it's about the same regardless of level, but it doesn't drop any gold materials)

Actually no you have it completely backwards, the profit from daily writs comes from never having to ever farm again!
A measly 1 wax drop from RNG a week (Idk average RNG drop rate I'm just making a point) is not worth the time or mats to do it but what is worth the time is managing to turn 40 void cloth you will never use but keep getting dumped with into a possible chance to get a survey you can turn into 200 raw ancestor silk. Obviously the raw silk has the chance to be refined for wax too. Surveys and gold mats still drop on lower levels too!
From my experience, though I have not especially been monitoring it, the drop rate of surveys and gold improvement mats are no more or less than on a max writ level. The only thing that makes a difference on max writ level is dropping master writs.
So with that knowledge it is a smart move to have alts doing writs on multiple levels of mats to turn the "trash mats" into top mats via surveys.
On the other side of that too, provisioning drops recipes from the level they are done, so I have and do get recipes drop from levels below max that my main crafter is literally unable to find in game (as low level recipes don't drop), including purple recipes that will cost you big cash in store. You can sell the excess purple recipes too.

Please read the link in my signature. I have done over 150,000 daily writs, and have tracked all the data! I know EXACTLY what I'm talking about The drop rates are established and well known. I have evaluated the costs based on the input cost and value of rewards to calculate profit margins. They are most effective at maximum level.

Gold mat drop rate is about 3% at minumum level. 30% at maximum level. This means you can expect 2 gold mats per week, per craft, per character. If you're only getting 1, it's because you're doing them at lower levels.

Hi, I’ve seen you mention the link in your signature in other posts but I’ve never been able to find your signature. Maybe because I’m on the mobile version of the forums? But it sounds really interesting and I hope I can figure out how to get to it soon!

@Elvenheart Yea, when I look at the forums on my phone I do not see signatures. Even on the PC some may not see signatures because there is a profile setting where they can hide sigs, but that is not the default.