No change to normal Pledge Transmute Crystal drops

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So because it's next to impossible to get a pug in the PTS and practically no one I know has the PTS downloaded, I ran a quick Pledge (FG) by myself just now, because I've been curious about how much PvE sources for Crystals have been increased. Unfortunately, after doing the Pledge and getting the Geode, it still drops only one Crystal. I can't really test random dailies or vet/HM Pledge drops atm since, like I mentioned, it's next to impossible to get an actual group together in the PTS, for me at least.

Has the increase for PvE drops (or at least normal Pledges) not been implemented yet, or is this a bug? From how I understood it, every PvE source that already dropped Crystals was going to get an increase of some amount.

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Edited by Arunei on September 27, 2020 3:57PM
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  • VaxtinTheWolf
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    If it isn't bugged, then they didn't adjust the minimum and you happened to get the usual 75% ratio on that 'reward'. Personally, I have not done any testing with that since dungeons were non existent on PTS, however I believe random queue should give a minimum of 10, and pledges should be a minimum of 4.
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  • redspecter23
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    If it isn't bugged, then they didn't adjust the minimum and you happened to get the usual 75% ratio on that 'reward'. Personally, I have not done any testing with that since dungeons were non existent on PTS, however I believe random queue should give a minimum of 10, and pledges should be a minimum of 4.

    Random normal is 10 crystals minimum? Sounds like 180+ crystals each day for people that are dedicated. If that's true, you'll likely see the random queues filled with the people that would typically go out to Cyrodill just for the crystals
  • Nepenthe
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    I soloed vetHM Fungal I, and got a blue geode with 5 transmute crystals in it.
  • Arunei
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    If random dailies give that many it could certaintly incentivize people to use the lfg tool more.
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    Kiju Veran: Ex-Fighters Guild Suthay who likes to punch things and is also a spy and ALSO a Werewolf
    Niralae Elsinal: Young Altmeri woman with way too much Magicka and Vampire husbando
    Slondor: TESified Slenderman, except lazier and has more of a thing for deals than Clavicus Vile does
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  • MincVinyl
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    They did state the they wanted pve to have many more sources since pvp once a month is really the only way to farm currently
  • Xebov
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    MincVinyl wrote: »
    They did state the they wanted pve to have many more sources since pvp once a month is really the only way to farm currently

    Thats not what they said. They said they want to add some sources and improve existing ones. Existing ones could mean that the lower value of geods gets increased.
  • Arunei
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    MincVinyl wrote: »
    They did state the they wanted pve to have many more sources since pvp once a month is really the only way to farm currently
    During the stream Rob mentioned 'minor' tweaks, if we really do get 10 Crystals per random daily that would be over triple what you can get from PvP in just one day, if someone really set their mind to it (as someone else said, 180 Crystals from 18 characters). That doesn't seem 'minor', and don't get me wrong I'm not complaining. I personally would be glad for more accessible ways of getting Crystals. But someone else above us said they did vFG on HM for the Pledge and only got 5 Crystals from the Geode. I don't see it that doing harder content like vHM dungeons would get less than a normal daily random dungeon. While 10 would be really nice, I wouldn't expect that value to go live if that's what it's at now. Sure, it would be an incentive to get people into the LFG tool like I mentioned, but it would also really render PvP moot as a way of getting them. Though...you could argue people who do PvP regularly anyway will still get their 50 at the end of every campaign and could also get a decent number from PvE on top of that, while the people who strictly PvE like me wouldn't get getting those extra 50 Crystals every month. I guess you could also argue that the people doing random daily dungeons on 18 characters every day would be probably the minority of players, too.

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    Niralae Elsinal: Young Altmeri woman with way too much Magicka and Vampire husbando
    Slondor: TESified Slenderman, except lazier and has more of a thing for deals than Clavicus Vile does
    Marius Vastino: Sarah's Imperial apathetic sire who likes to monologue
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  • FrancisCrawford
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    If it isn't bugged, then they didn't adjust the minimum and you happened to get the usual 75% ratio on that 'reward'. Personally, I have not done any testing with that since dungeons were non existent on PTS, however I believe random queue should give a minimum of 10, and pledges should be a minimum of 4.

    To be clear: Did you mean your words in the ordinary English-language sense?

    Or are people really correct to think that you meant that random queues WOULD give 10 crystals??
  • MashmalloMan
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    If it isn't bugged, then they didn't adjust the minimum and you happened to get the usual 75% ratio on that 'reward'. Personally, I have not done any testing with that since dungeons were non existent on PTS, however I believe random queue should give a minimum of 10, and pledges should be a minimum of 4.

    To be clear: Did you mean your words in the ordinary English-language sense?

    Or are people really correct to think that you meant that random queues WOULD give 10 crystals??

    Pretty sure they're just stating their opinion on what they should reward because they said "I have not done any testing with that since dungeons were non existent on PTS, however I believe.."
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  • VaxtinTheWolf
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    Misunderstanding apparently.

    I was talking about the first Random Daily dungeon you do a day, the one with bonus rewards and stuff? That one for 10 crystals minimum. The repeats would be lower of course.
    Edited by VaxtinTheWolf on September 27, 2020 10:57PM
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  • Firstmep
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    Misunderstanding apparently.

    I was talking about the first Random Daily dungeon you do a day, the one with bonus rewards and stuff? That one for 10 crystals minimum. The repeats would be lower of course.

    I really wish the patch notes detailed exactly how many crystals we can get from each source.
    @ZOS_GinaBruno any chance you could ask the team for a quick list?
    Much appreciated
  • Xebov
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    Firstmep wrote: »
    Misunderstanding apparently.

    I was talking about the first Random Daily dungeon you do a day, the one with bonus rewards and stuff? That one for 10 crystals minimum. The repeats would be lower of course.

    I really wish the patch notes detailed exactly how many crystals we can get from each source.
    @ZOS_GinaBruno any chance you could ask the team for a quick list?
    Much appreciated

    This would realy help alot.
  • richo262
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    I'm not too phased with the crystals, sure more is great, but we get crystals refunded.

    I suspect people are going to farm a set to completion so it only costs 25 to make. Then make items from that set to store those crystals within those items, to be decon'd later when needed. I've been hording the event sets and have a full set of Winters, Venom and Eternal, for this reason.

    When you need transmutes it hurts, when you don't you end up at cap... then there are people that have a mule character full of reconstructed Eternal Underpants :).
  • Nairinhe
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    richo262 wrote: »
    I'm not too phased with the crystals, sure more is great, but we get crystals refunded.

    I suspect people are going to farm a set to completion so it only costs 25 to make. Then make items from that set to store those crystals within those items, to be decon'd later when needed. I've been hording the event sets and have a full set of Winters, Venom and Eternal, for this reason.

    When you need transmutes it hurts, when you don't you end up at cap... then there are people that have a mule character full of reconstructed Eternal Underpants :).

    I suspect that Underpants of Eternal Vigor may be related to... ahem... different kind of "battles" :|
  • Xebov
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    richo262 wrote: »
    I'm not too phased with the crystals, sure more is great, but we get crystals refunded.

    I suspect people are going to farm a set to completion so it only costs 25 to make. Then make items from that set to store those crystals within those items, to be decon'd later when needed. I've been hording the event sets and have a full set of Winters, Venom and Eternal, for this reason.

    When you need transmutes it hurts, when you don't you end up at cap... then there are people that have a mule character full of reconstructed Eternal Underpants :).

    I think its better to have some more crystals. Veterans will all reach the cap at some point, but for newer players that get them less efficient a better flow is important.
  • Env_t
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    richo262 wrote: »
    I'm not too phased with the crystals, sure more is great, but we get crystals refunded.

    I suspect people are going to farm a set to completion so it only costs 25 to make. Then make items from that set to store those crystals within those items, to be decon'd later when needed. I've been hording the event sets and have a full set of Winters, Venom and Eternal, for this reason.

    When you need transmutes it hurts, when you don't you end up at cap... then there are people that have a mule character full of reconstructed Eternal Underpants :).

    event sets? there is no such thing like event sets
  • richo262
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    Env_t wrote: »
    richo262 wrote: »
    I'm not too phased with the crystals, sure more is great, but we get crystals refunded.

    I suspect people are going to farm a set to completion so it only costs 25 to make. Then make items from that set to store those crystals within those items, to be decon'd later when needed. I've been hording the event sets and have a full set of Winters, Venom and Eternal, for this reason.

    When you need transmutes it hurts, when you don't you end up at cap... then there are people that have a mule character full of reconstructed Eternal Underpants :).

    event sets? there is no such thing like event sets

    [snip] Besides, yes, those sets I described are coming out of event boxes. They, and KA sets are double dropping. They are the only sets related to this event.

    [Edit for Bait]
    Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on September 28, 2020 7:05PM
  • Xebov
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    Env_t wrote: »
    richo262 wrote: »
    I'm not too phased with the crystals, sure more is great, but we get crystals refunded.

    I suspect people are going to farm a set to completion so it only costs 25 to make. Then make items from that set to store those crystals within those items, to be decon'd later when needed. I've been hording the event sets and have a full set of Winters, Venom and Eternal, for this reason.

    When you need transmutes it hurts, when you don't you end up at cap... then there are people that have a mule character full of reconstructed Eternal Underpants :).

    event sets? there is no such thing like event sets

    He likely means the greymoore overland sets. They currently have better drop chances due to extra loot boxes and chance for double drops. They should be cheap to aquire and thus easy to have a complete set.
  • Xebov
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    richo262 wrote: »
    Env_t wrote: »
    richo262 wrote: »
    I'm not too phased with the crystals, sure more is great, but we get crystals refunded.

    I suspect people are going to farm a set to completion so it only costs 25 to make. Then make items from that set to store those crystals within those items, to be decon'd later when needed. I've been hording the event sets and have a full set of Winters, Venom and Eternal, for this reason.

    When you need transmutes it hurts, when you don't you end up at cap... then there are people that have a mule character full of reconstructed Eternal Underpants :).

    event sets? there is no such thing like event sets

    [snip] Besides, yes, those sets I described are coming out of event boxes. They, and KA sets are double dropping. They are the only sets related to this event.

    [Edit for Bait]

    Just use any arena bow you like. Its a one piece set ;)
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