I haven't heard about any plans to accommodate players in Belgium or other countries with similar restrictions.
I think they'll have to do something sooner or later because these bans are going to get more common as more countries realise their current gambling legislation is out of date and needs to catch up to the realities of the modern world. But I suspect at the moment a lot of games studios see it as being in their best interest to make the ban seem as restrictive and impractical for players as possible in the hope that they can shift public opinion back to seeing loot boxes as the lesser of two evils.
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Yes, it's considered gambling, but NO government of ANY country should decide what people spend their OWN money on.
etchedpixels wrote: »I
Yes, it's considered gambling, but NO government of ANY country should decide what people spend their OWN money on.
So I should be allowed to buy [snip] ?
For many people with gambling problems it's as bad or worse than [snip] and like drug addicts they tend not to just spend their own money.
Now whether they ought to offer people in such countries (and there will soon be far more - the UK proposals have gotten bunged up in Covid19 as have other nations) something like the ability to just buy crown gems and price the stuff at the actual cost for trying to get it from crates, that is another question IMHO.
etchedpixels wrote: »I
Yes, it's considered gambling, but NO government of ANY country should decide what people spend their OWN money on.
So I should be allowed to buy [snip] ?
For many people with gambling problems it's as bad or worse than [snip] and like drug addicts they tend not to just spend their own money.
Now whether they ought to offer people in such countries (and there will soon be far more - the UK proposals have gotten bunged up in Covid19 as have other nations) something like the ability to just buy crown gems and price the stuff at the actual cost for trying to get it from crates, that is another question IMHO.
I of course meant of things that aren't meant to be harmful, and call me overly optimist, but I don't think crown crates were designed to be harmful
etchedpixels wrote: »I
Yes, it's considered gambling, but NO government of ANY country should decide what people spend their OWN money on.
So I should be allowed to buy [snip] ?
For many people with gambling problems it's as bad or worse than [snip] and like drug addicts they tend not to just spend their own money.
Now whether they ought to offer people in such countries (and there will soon be far more - the UK proposals have gotten bunged up in Covid19 as have other nations) something like the ability to just buy crown gems and price the stuff at the actual cost for trying to get it from crates, that is another question IMHO.
I of course meant of things that aren't meant to be harmful, and call me overly optimist, but I don't think crown crates were designed to be harmful
And yeah there are people who have a serious problem with gambling, and they SHOULD be helped, but still denying EVERYBODY to gamble is 4th grade teacher mentality.
Like imagine you are in some place in Tamriel, and you think to yourself "Man, I've traveled far, I could really use a beverage" So you go to the nearest inn, only to learn that because some people drank a little to much, the innkeeper has decided to ban all drinking
I'm generally against that sort of mob punishment
But of course I agree that if people have an actual problem with gambling, drinking, whatever, then they should be helped before they play/drink all the money away
etchedpixels wrote: »I
Yes, it's considered gambling, but NO government of ANY country should decide what people spend their OWN money on.
So I should be allowed to buy [snip] ?
For many people with gambling problems it's as bad or worse than [snip] and like drug addicts they tend not to just spend their own money.
Now whether they ought to offer people in such countries (and there will soon be far more - the UK proposals have gotten bunged up in Covid19 as have other nations) something like the ability to just buy crown gems and price the stuff at the actual cost for trying to get it from crates, that is another question IMHO.
I of course meant of things that aren't meant to be harmful, and call me overly optimist, but I don't think crown crates were designed to be harmful
And yeah there are people who have a serious problem with gambling, and they SHOULD be helped, but still denying EVERYBODY to gamble is 4th grade teacher mentality.
Like imagine you are in some place in Tamriel, and you think to yourself "Man, I've traveled far, I could really use a beverage" So you go to the nearest inn, only to learn that because some people drank a little to much, the innkeeper has decided to ban all drinking
I'm generally against that sort of mob punishment
But of course I agree that if people have an actual problem with gambling, drinking, whatever, then they should be helped before they play/drink all the money away
How about the inkeeper giving you a completely random beverage instead of what you want?
etchedpixels wrote: »I
Yes, it's considered gambling, but NO government of ANY country should decide what people spend their OWN money on.
So I should be allowed to buy [snip] ?
For many people with gambling problems it's as bad or worse than [snip] and like drug addicts they tend not to just spend their own money.
Now whether they ought to offer people in such countries (and there will soon be far more - the UK proposals have gotten bunged up in Covid19 as have other nations) something like the ability to just buy crown gems and price the stuff at the actual cost for trying to get it from crates, that is another question IMHO.
I of course meant of things that aren't meant to be harmful, and call me overly optimist, but I don't think crown crates were designed to be harmful
And yeah there are people who have a serious problem with gambling, and they SHOULD be helped, but still denying EVERYBODY to gamble is 4th grade teacher mentality.
Like imagine you are in some place in Tamriel, and you think to yourself "Man, I've traveled far, I could really use a beverage" So you go to the nearest inn, only to learn that because some people drank a little to much, the innkeeper has decided to ban all drinking
I'm generally against that sort of mob punishment
But of course I agree that if people have an actual problem with gambling, drinking, whatever, then they should be helped before they play/drink all the money away
How about the inkeeper giving you a completely random beverage instead of what you want?
Hmm you have a point there
Still I'd hate it if all what's considered gambling or drinking got banned in my country, I don't think banning the stuff is the way to go, I'd go more for a sort of informative approach (which I know can be hard in some cases)
Hi all
I'm from Belgium and the last couple weeks I'm unable to buy crown crates because Belgium lootboxes ban... Are there any other solutions that I can give a try to buy crown crates or is bethesda or Zos working on something so that we Belgium players or other countries with the same ban could buy again crates? Hope so 😁
etchedpixels wrote: »I
Yes, it's considered gambling, but NO government of ANY country should decide what people spend their OWN money on.
So I should be allowed to buy [snip] ?
For many people with gambling problems it's as bad or worse than [snip] and like drug addicts they tend not to just spend their own money.
Now whether they ought to offer people in such countries (and there will soon be far more - the UK proposals have gotten bunged up in Covid19 as have other nations) something like the ability to just buy crown gems and price the stuff at the actual cost for trying to get it from crates, that is another question IMHO.
etchedpixels wrote: »I
Yes, it's considered gambling, but NO government of ANY country should decide what people spend their OWN money on.
So I should be allowed to buy [snip] ?
For many people with gambling problems it's as bad or worse than [snip] and like drug addicts they tend not to just spend their own money.
Now whether they ought to offer people in such countries (and there will soon be far more - the UK proposals have gotten bunged up in Covid19 as have other nations) something like the ability to just buy crown gems and price the stuff at the actual cost for trying to get it from crates, that is another question IMHO.
call me overly optimist, but I don't think crown crates were designed to be harmful
call me overly optimist, but I don't think crown crates were designed to be harmful
[snip] Loot crates, multi-tiered currency, solution selling, time-limited exclusives and many other tactics plaguing the game industry are thoroughly researched to become as addictive as possible and generate as many impulse sales as possible. There are no good microtransactions, only some that aren't quite as outrageous as others.
I know I'm probably alone in this, but I feel sorry for Belgium on that part
Yes, it's considered gambling, but NO government of ANY country should decide what people spend their OWN money on.
And if someone has a problem with buying too many? (I'm close to that point, because I LOVE crown crates) then there are ways they can be helped, and I guess the reason Belgium has decided to ban them, is to help those with problem gambling But punishing/denying EVERYBODY really is nothing but 4th grade teacher mentality.
call me overly optimist, but I don't think crown crates were designed to be harmful
[snip] Loot crates, multi-tiered currency, solution selling, time-limited exclusives and many other tactics plaguing the game industry are thoroughly researched to become as addictive as possible and generate as many impulse sales as possible. There are no good microtransactions, only some that aren't quite as outrageous as others.
So the industry WANTS people to become addicted to loot boxes and other gambling effects? That's messed up. I've only ever seen crown crates as things to open, and if you're lucky you're lucky, and if you're not, well better luck next time.
.... so it would be wise for ZOS to come up with some sort of new way to incorporate crowncrate stuff into the game. While still making money ofcourse.