Maybe not all of these things at once, but any of them can be annoying. The advantage of being a tank is that I can run with anyone, including my friends who I know will work well and get the content done.

If I'm tanking in the queue, it's mostly for entertainment value and I have zero expectations of actually finishing harder content.

I may queue on a dps with sword and board back bar so I can taunt things for random normals, but I bring enough damage that if the dps is poor, I can guarantee a smooth completion anyway. Essentially, I don't queue unless I can pretty much solo it anyway.

Where's the option for "I'm a tank and I always use the Group Finder"...?

If your'e going to make a poll, at least make it so that tanks who DO use the group finder have an option. Otherwise it implies that no tanks ever use the Group Finder, which is completely false.

I still pug on my healer sometimes (normal only) but I refuse to pug on my tank. categorically. I will say this much, super low dps doesn't bother me that much as long as people are actualy trying and following mechanics/listen to when you explain mechanics. but everything else is just... nope. tanking in best circumstances can be stressful as it is.

All off above but more as its more fun to run with guild.

CaffeinatedMayhem wrote: »

Miszou wrote: »

Where's the option for "I'm a tank and I always use the Group Finder"...?

If your'e going to make a poll, at least make it so that tanks who DO use the group finder have an option. Otherwise it implies that no tanks ever use the Group Finder, which is completely false.

Ah because this poll is not for tanks that do use the group finder! I see so many complaints about fake tanks, I thought I might highlight why real tanks don't use group finder.

I obviously do use group finder, but the reasons here are why I generally don't run pledges, and try to avoid pugs if possible.

How about at least put a "I ask in guild first and the group fills."

But seriously, I'm not afraid of the group finder, either on my tank or on my healers, though usually at least one guildie will come with me for pledges.

This seems like an obvious answer. I stopped PUGging ages ago because I was tired of being blamed for everything, especially since I was new and still learning.

So yeah, my big issue is being blamed for everything going wrong, but I usually see things go wrong because of any of the above options. I've seen too many times where the healer or DPS sprint ahead and leave me in the dust, but I'm only running since I want to use my stamina to, you know...taunt and block?

Or when someone has a 'pro strat' where they just pull every bit of trash to the first boss, but they don't mention it to anyone, so they end up solo at the boss while the rest of the team is stuck in all of the adds that were pulled along?

Or when I'm in a vet dungeon and claw all the trash down, but the DPS can't kill it before my claws expire because they have low DPS or no AoEs and then make me regroup the whole thing (then complain "Someone in the group was only doing 2k DPS!" Yeah, that's about what a tank can do...)

Or when we get to a boss and one of the DPS runs around the room aggroing all of the adds, and then just spends the fight kiting everything instead of running everything to me. And then complains since I can only chain one thing off them at a time, which also means I don't have the mag to sustain the stack I did manage to make?

Or when there is a special mechanic to focus on that requires them to do something other than their role. I just found out yesterday that being trapped and stunned by the first boss in MHK is unbreakable and requires someone else to interrupt. I always thought it was just because I sucked as a tank that I got trapped and one shot by him, but it's really that nobody ever interrupted him since 'it's the tank's job'

The one thing I never really had an issue with is fake healers. I did get a pug once where the healer announced he was actually a DPS so I just focused more on my self-heal and it went fine. I think he queued with someone else, so there was no issue there. But then there was also a time I was in a group where the heals were'nt really coming so I focused more on my self-heal stuff, and then our healer complained in /g "ugh ur heals suck" or something like that. And then one of the DPS pointed out "uh, you're the healer...". Dude, if you're going in as a fake role, at least make the effort not to complain that that role isn't being filled...

Miszou wrote: »

Where's the option for "I'm a tank and I always use the Group Finder"...?

If your'e going to make a poll, at least make it so that tanks who DO use the group finder have an option. Otherwise it implies that no tanks ever use the Group Finder, which is completely false.

I do use the group finder. If I'm alone, I queue as either healer or tank, and I'm ready to play that role.

Yeah there are some silly peeps out there, but I can always leave.

Any time that I've ever pugged a dungeon on any support role, the dps are usually just terrible.

You've got one guy spamming light attacks with a bow and occasionally cloaking/ambushing in on the boss. Another time, one was running a 2h and an ice staff that kept pulling aggro, so we just left him dead. Not to mention the time where I had to tank around 13 (literally) daedroths on banished 2, and eventually just left the group after dying from zero resources.

I stick with running with guildies. I haven't pugged in a year at least. There's just so many people who don't know how to play the game/fulfill their role, and I low-key don't have the patience anymore.

Super low dps on a damage dealer is quite frustrating for me when im tanking, i mean like less than 10k dps. After a dungeon with 2 super low dps i generally swap off my tank toon for a few weeks.

Having a fake healer used to annoy me a lot when I was first starting out as a new tank.
It was really frustrating learning to crowd control, taunt uptime, chaining, turn bosses and watch for mechs/interrupts while also keeping an eye on my healthbar.
At that time my setups was far from ideal and I thought more health = better tank so couldn't keep my healing up due to lack of ressources.

While it was extremely frustrating experience, in the long run in taught me to set up my tanks to a point where I wouldn't need a healer in most dungeons. I expected people to que up fake so I learned to keep myself alive.

Now I actually prefer 1t 3dd for most content, as the higher damage (for the most part lol) let you burn through certain mechs.

I do hope people who que fake up will mind new Tanks who qued up expecting a healer. If your tank struggles maybe slot the bird healer as sorc or breath of life as Templar etc and help your tank a little bit. It can be overwhelming when starting out as a tank learning all your obligations. Don't discourage them we need more tanks not less.

When it comes to people being bad mannered though I just leave.
I can't be bothered cleaning people's mess up again and again when they pull bosses, scatter the adds and run around like headless chickens. These people are usually also very rude..

actually yeah All of the above is what I should of voted.

I voted "all of the above," and I suppose it's kind of true, but I do use the group finder. The kicker is that I don't generally use it for pledges - purely because unless I've been asked to tank or heal by friends, I don't run pledges! Aside from new content, I usually have all the helms I need, and I rarely need more keys to get shoulders. Sometimes I'll want a few to pick up something from the Undaunted quest givers, but usually the occasional ones I've picked up when friends have asked me to run as support for them keep me well enough stocked to take care of that.

If I'm in the mood to run something, I'll hop into a vet queue as a healer or tank, or a normal queue as a DPS (anyone who knows me knows that I am not a good DPS), or hit up guild chat to see if anyone is in the mood to run something or needs to farm any gear and needs a hand. But no, I don't use the dungeon finder to run pledges.