Dalsinthus wrote: »Atherakhia wrote: »They are hardly the weakest
With respect, what stamina spec is actually worse?
techyeshic wrote: »Um a little speed and they are practically impossible to chase down when combined with cloak and shade. even with detect pots and can still hit like a truck.
give us more damage.
this patch nightblade damage is lowered, it's true.
SavageChain wrote: »give us more damage.
this patch nightblade damage is lowered, it's true.
Just because you say it, doesnt mean it is true. Actually the opposite happened, since grim focus provides additional crit damage. Therefore damage of nightblades went up and is by far not bad. Decent stamnb builds hit pretty hard already with only surprise attack and tend to land 10k incaps and 15k bow procs. Pls stop posting false information, thx.
pauld1_ESO wrote: »10k ultimate? OMG nerf!! This just amazes me that people actually complain that an ultimate can hit for 10k. And what is a 15k bow proc and how is this NB specific?
The_Camper wrote: »pauld1_ESO wrote: »In my experience, playing both with and against Stamblades, Shadow Image is a NB's best defense.
I mainly play Stamsorc which has a pretty easy time against a lot of Nightblades. But there are still some Nightblades I simply can't kill because of good Shadow Image use.
And the damage seems more than sufficient to me.
Other classes can do just as much damage but don't have to rely on running away (shadow-image) or hiding (cloak). I have to glass cannon to do the damage I do, other classes like Stamden do not. In fact....they can run in no cp with 30k+ health and still burst the *** out of things. no hiding or running required.....
But let's keep crying about NBs.....
you just talk and talk in every single thread and judging by loads of crap you post, you have no idea what you're talking about. yet here, you don't know what a nb bow proc is and yet you comment on how nbs are performing. Take some time looking into some stuff.
pauld1_ESO wrote: »In my experience, playing both with and against Stamblades, Shadow Image is a NB's best defense.
I mainly play Stamsorc which has a pretty easy time against a lot of Nightblades. But there are still some Nightblades I simply can't kill because of good Shadow Image use.
And the damage seems more than sufficient to me.
Other classes can do just as much damage but don't have to rely on running away (shadow-image) or hiding (cloak). I have to glass cannon to do the damage I do, other classes like Stamden do not. In fact....they can run in no cp with 30k+ health and still burst the *** out of things. no hiding or running required.....
But let's keep crying about NBs.....
pauld1_ESO wrote: »The_Camper wrote: »pauld1_ESO wrote: »In my experience, playing both with and against Stamblades, Shadow Image is a NB's best defense.
I mainly play Stamsorc which has a pretty easy time against a lot of Nightblades. But there are still some Nightblades I simply can't kill because of good Shadow Image use.
And the damage seems more than sufficient to me.
Other classes can do just as much damage but don't have to rely on running away (shadow-image) or hiding (cloak). I have to glass cannon to do the damage I do, other classes like Stamden do not. In fact....they can run in no cp with 30k+ health and still burst the *** out of things. no hiding or running required.....
But let's keep crying about NBs.....
you just talk and talk in every single thread and judging by loads of crap you post, you have no idea what you're talking about. yet here, you don't know what a nb bow proc is and yet you comment on how nbs are performing. Take some time looking into some stuff.
If you have arguments against anything I say present them. Saying I post "loads of crap" is not an argument. Saying I don't know what I am talking about is not an argument. Present your case or don't say anything at all.
And I did not realize he meant relentless proc since he over-exaggerated the damage it does. 15k lol....
Damage on the class is really high it's burst is just predictable and avoidable, if you aren't doing damage your build is just bad, only gripe with the class is everything outside of AoE and gapclosers breaking stealth such as single target abilities and light/heavy attacks. Would still like to see a self cast major sorcery/brutality on leeching strikes/siphoning attacks and moved off of sap essence/power extraction opening more builds viable outside just 2h one and slotting degen on magblade which isn't a good skill for the class and makes them detectable
pauld1_ESO wrote: »SavageChain wrote: »give us more damage.
this patch nightblade damage is lowered, it's true.
Just because you say it, doesnt mean it is true. Actually the opposite happened, since grim focus provides additional crit damage. Therefore damage of nightblades went up and is by far not bad. Decent stamnb builds hit pretty hard already with only surprise attack and tend to land 10k incaps and 15k bow procs. Pls stop posting false information, thx.
10k ultimate? OMG nerf!! This just amazes me that people actually complain that an ultimate can hit for 10k. And what is a 15k bow proc and how is this NB specific?
pauld1_ESO wrote: »techyeshic wrote: »Um a little speed and they are practically impossible to chase down when combined with cloak and shade. even with detect pots and can still hit like a truck.
You see the one that gets away, try playing one and see how impossible it is.
PhoenixGrey wrote: »Damage on the class is really high it's burst is just predictable and avoidable, if you aren't doing damage your build is just bad, only gripe with the class is everything outside of AoE and gapclosers breaking stealth such as single target abilities and light/heavy attacks. Would still like to see a self cast major sorcery/brutality on leeching strikes/siphoning attacks and moved off of sap essence/power extraction opening more builds viable outside just 2h one and slotting degen on magblade which isn't a good skill for the class and makes them detectable
Stamina nightblade is the best solo PVP class right now.pauld1_ESO wrote: »SavageChain wrote: »give us more damage.
this patch nightblade damage is lowered, it's true.
Just because you say it, doesnt mean it is true. Actually the opposite happened, since grim focus provides additional crit damage. Therefore damage of nightblades went up and is by far not bad. Decent stamnb builds hit pretty hard already with only surprise attack and tend to land 10k incaps and 15k bow procs. Pls stop posting false information, thx.
10k ultimate? OMG nerf!! This just amazes me that people actually complain that an ultimate can hit for 10k. And what is a 15k bow proc and how is this NB specific?
An almost spammable ultimate which hits or 10k + along with surprise attack which hits for 10k + along with bow proc which can hit for 17k+. Enough to delete the tankiest player IMO and that is on a build with enough sustain and decent defense
This is possible only on a stamina nightblade
The problem there is so many really bad nightblades who have no idea how to put together a build or play the class.
give us more damage.
this patch nightblade damage is lowered, it's true.
xI_The_Owl_Ix wrote: »PhoenixGrey wrote: »Damage on the class is really high it's burst is just predictable and avoidable, if you aren't doing damage your build is just bad, only gripe with the class is everything outside of AoE and gapclosers breaking stealth such as single target abilities and light/heavy attacks. Would still like to see a self cast major sorcery/brutality on leeching strikes/siphoning attacks and moved off of sap essence/power extraction opening more builds viable outside just 2h one and slotting degen on magblade which isn't a good skill for the class and makes them detectable
Stamina nightblade is the best solo PVP class right now.pauld1_ESO wrote: »SavageChain wrote: »give us more damage.
this patch nightblade damage is lowered, it's true.
Just because you say it, doesnt mean it is true. Actually the opposite happened, since grim focus provides additional crit damage. Therefore damage of nightblades went up and is by far not bad. Decent stamnb builds hit pretty hard already with only surprise attack and tend to land 10k incaps and 15k bow procs. Pls stop posting false information, thx.
10k ultimate? OMG nerf!! This just amazes me that people actually complain that an ultimate can hit for 10k. And what is a 15k bow proc and how is this NB specific?
An almost spammable ultimate which hits or 10k + along with surprise attack which hits for 10k + along with bow proc which can hit for 17k+. Enough to delete the tankiest player IMO and that is on a build with enough sustain and decent defense
This is possible only on a stamina nightblade
The problem there is so many really bad nightblades who have no idea how to put together a build or play the class.
Not agreeing with the OP but incap has a sound cue when cast and can be dodged because of that. Same goes for the bow proc which plays a very loud sound cue when its fired, making it easy dodgable. While other skills like shalks or leap dont play a sound at all.
Its especially bad because of the cast time of incap and the very slow travel speed of bow proc, which with the addition of the sound cues make them easily dodgable and therefore the burst combo very clunky. Its the worst burst combo on any class, imo that is.