They just need to add a group queue back as cohesion in those game types is king. They screwed the pooch by removing groups.

I played BG alot for two years and felt DM was whack Ifni want a scrap I go Cyro. All other modes way better but you need comms

WastedJoker wrote: »

[snip] Unless it is a DM then 90% of matches are about trying to tell your group what they need to do.

There needs to be a comprehensive questline covering all BG match types before anyone can join a BG match.

This would require the palyers to play and understand them. The reality is that the questline will tell players to stay there and tehy will stay there, it doesnt mean that they will end up staying there in reality too.

newtinmpls wrote: »

Can you queue for "Deathmatch Only?"

Seems like lots of folks seem to have that as their goal, regardless of the "official" nature of the particular match.

You can, but the queue times are long as it is. Waiting for a specific thing like this is just as bad as queuing for a dungeon as solo DPS.

It seems like relatively few players actually enjoy BGs, they just do it for the rewards. Trying to incentivize people to do unpopular content with rewards leads to people just wanting to get through it with as little effort/pain as possible to move on to content they actually do like.

Huh. It's almost like throwing a bunch of random solos of unknown motivation and background together isn't the best way to run a team sport. Gee whiz.

I hope they add group queues again... Battlegrounds are a mess right now.

P.T.F.O.

WastedJoker wrote: »

[snip] Unless it is a DM then 90% of matches are about trying to tell your group what they need to do.

There needs to be a comprehensive questline covering all BG match types before anyone can join a BG match.

In fairness to the “idiots” there seems to be an assumption with online PVP that you already know what the various game types are, and the strategies needed to play them well. It’s one thing being told the basic premise of the game, it’s another to know the strategies involved in being successful. Even if you ask/look for help, you more often than not get referred back to previous games (“Oh it’s like such and such mode from Call of Duty”). Which is absolutely no help to anyone who hasn’t played such games.

So yes, some more info provided to those that aren’t familiar with online PVP would be extremely helpful.

Canned_Apples wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

They just need to add a group queue back as cohesion in those game types is king. They screwed the pooch by removing groups.

I played BG alot for two years and felt DM was whack Ifni want a scrap I go Cyro. All other modes way better but you need comms

Yeah, cause that’s what premades did... they played the objective and never spawn camped.

Good post.

Because in my experience it was premade teams that ignored the objectives more than randoms did.

Waffennacht wrote: »

Im a fan of BGs.

Never was a fan of facing the same pre made over and over

I prefer it this way, however I get why groups wanna play together

Yeah TBF you are bang on, I'd just like to see both I think, so we had a choice

Solo queue left as is, and a group queue seperatly maybe with registered teams for a leaderboard and stuff but I know that's very unlikely lol!

But having people with no idea what they are doing means my teams usually finish first, despite the fact I can't pvp to save my life.

Keep them thick, I say. I've got to get my AP somehow 😎

I just want my 1v1 and 2v2 arena on a que.
I don't want to spam guild chat like a moron everyday with this request until they kick me.
Should be able to que for it.

I could care less about running around with a ball in PVP.

[snip] Unless it is a DM then 90% of matches are about trying to tell your group what they need to do.

There needs to be a comprehensive questline covering all BG match types before anyone can join a BG match

This is not ignorance. This is quite intentional. It seems to be a big thing for people to enter the battleground and attempt to achieve X kills with 0 deaths. Which leads to one (or more) players focusing on playing death match while the rest of the team is trying to achieve the objective. By preying on the weak and unaware, they rack up their kill count to 0 deaths then brag about it alone. I think one person was claiming 68 kills with 0 deaths at one point.

I agree that it takes the fun out of playing battlegrounds. That is why I rarely play bg any more. But it is within the rules of the game, so no much you can do about it. I suppose I could try to rally the team into ganging up and killing the one trying to play death match. I find that usually after a death, they quit the bg (because they no longer have their perfect score). Usually I just warn the other team members about the ganker, wish them luck, and say goodbye.

I have seen some suggest an option to vote to kick like in dungeons. Since they already have the basic concept worked out in dungeons, they would have to adapt it for the battleground groups. It would give teams a way of getting rid of problems on their team, but what about when your team is the victim? You will obviously not be able to kick someone from another team (but would be nice sometimes). So some other type of objective system has to be developed.

I would think that this can be cut out of the game by making a few simple rules changes in the battleground system. There is already a system in place where if a player remains idle (not moving) for a certain amount to time, they get kicked from the battleground. Maybe if that were expanded to include if a player has not assisted in achieving the objective for X amount of time, they are also kicked. For example if a player is just ganking to get a high kill rate, but not going into dangerous places like taking objectives, they are automatically kicked for not be a team participant.

We know they keep track of every player's location every moment in the game. The ganker who mows down individual players on their way to chasing the chaos ball, but never getting close enough to engage themselves (and is not actively healing), gets booted for not being a team player. The ganker who tries to roam around to get kills but never help capture a flag objective gets booted after X amount of time, again for not being a team player. The person not near the relic (defending), and has not attempted to get close to an enemy relic would get removed. This would at least force everyone on the team to participate to some degree.

wait wait wait. i dont understand. help for what? even to a "non pro mlg player" rules are simple. i dont understand what else need to be explained.

same with the rest of the game. i dont understand why people ask " how do i play this game" . imo most of the stuff very simplistic and understandable.

For OP, i think people are there for rewards so they dont care. they just do the dailies