Thanks for ruinning sorc healer zos.

Beardimus · September 2020

Katboy333 wrote: »

I used to be able to heal 21k with my full healer's twilight, now only 14k. The healing twilight was the only advantage you had as a sorcerer healer. Might aswell slot combat prayer instead of the twilight and get an extra skill, but if Im gonna do that why even play a sorcerer healer in the first place.
FYI yes I can heal engame content as a sorc healer just fine, so no I dont want to heal with another class. Just stop with these *** nerfs in response to crybabies. If your gonna kill pets just get rid of them alltogether and replace the summon tree with somethingelse already. As someone who played this game since 2014 and seen all the changes to pets over the years Im getting real tired of this ***...

@Katboy333 Look at what's needed, it was the balance of needing Spell Damage as well as max Magika. Twilight didn't take a direct nerf unless I'm mistake?

Also twilight should only be your burst heal. You should be slamming down Restro skills and the twilight as a panic

universal_wrath · September 2020

vectoraz22 wrote: »

If you're not using and reapplying combat prayer everytime it comes up then your really giving your group a huge disservice. The damage buff from cbp needs to be up at times for the extra dps you get from the buff. And If your not doing your job as a healer by applying buff's then your not really a good healer at all.

Calling out someone to be a bad healer because they don't heal like you? Combat prayer is nice in both heals and buffs, but I never bothered to use it because there is a skill called comufpaged hunter both magicka and stamina DDs can use and have better uptime on minor berserk than I do with combat. You guys just making healer overwork for no reason. I already wear buffing sets and help with sustain, survivabilty and crowd control. What't next? You only qualify as a healer if you can do atleast 60 mil on raid dummy? What is wrong with being full healer with out any buffs/debuffs? If dps can't pull there wieght without healer support, why is it healer fault? Healers and tanks supports only meant to increase what is already a good dps.

Beardimus · September 2020

universal_wrath wrote: »

vectoraz22 wrote: »

If you're not using and reapplying combat prayer everytime it comes up then your really giving your group a huge disservice. The damage buff from cbp needs to be up at times for the extra dps you get from the buff. And If your not doing your job as a healer by applying buff's then your not really a good healer at all.

Calling out someone to be a bad healer because they don't heal like you? Combat prayer is nice in both heals and buffs, but I never bothered to use it because there is a skill called comufpaged hunter both magicka and stamina DDs can use and have better uptime on minor berserk than I do with combat. You guys just making healer overwork for no reason. I already wear buffing sets and help with sustain, survivabilty and crowd control. What't next? You only qualify as a healer if you can do atleast 60 mil on raid dummy? What is wrong with being full healer with out any buffs/debuffs? If dps can't pull there wieght without healer support, why is it healer fault? Healers and tanks supports only meant to increase what is already a good dps.

Better group DPS helps everyone.
Things dead quicker = less healing you need to do, less risk and less sustain needed..

As a healer the biggest thing that causes dungeon wipes is bad DPS. Thus I love Pet sorc as generally I can add a fair chunk of damage whilst doing the rest of my job.

Folks think healers cause the wipes, in bad PUGs it's generally bad DDs / bow light attack champions that are the issue.

Thus buff and support is very much part of the job..

Katboy333 · September 2020

Beardimus wrote: »

Katboy333 wrote: »

I used to be able to heal 21k with my full healer's twilight, now only 14k. The healing twilight was the only advantage you had as a sorcerer healer. Might aswell slot combat prayer instead of the twilight and get an extra skill, but if Im gonna do that why even play a sorcerer healer in the first place.
FYI yes I can heal engame content as a sorc healer just fine, so no I dont want to heal with another class. Just stop with these *** nerfs in response to crybabies. If your gonna kill pets just get rid of them alltogether and replace the summon tree with somethingelse already. As someone who played this game since 2014 and seen all the changes to pets over the years Im getting real tired of this ***...

@Katboy333 Look at what's needed, it was the balance of needing Spell Damage as well as max Magika. Twilight didn't take a direct nerf unless I'm mistake?

Also twilight should only be your burst heal. You should be slamming down Restro skills and the twilight as a panic

Like I have already said I was using the twilight as burst heal. Healers go max magicka, the twilight doesnt buff from max magicka only anymore so yes there is a nerf for sorc healers. Im not a dps so I shouldnt have to get spell damage to rebuff it and loose max magicka in the process.

Beardimus · September 2020

Katboy333 wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

Katboy333 wrote: »

I used to be able to heal 21k with my full healer's twilight, now only 14k. The healing twilight was the only advantage you had as a sorcerer healer. Might aswell slot combat prayer instead of the twilight and get an extra skill, but if Im gonna do that why even play a sorcerer healer in the first place.
FYI yes I can heal engame content as a sorc healer just fine, so no I dont want to heal with another class. Just stop with these *** nerfs in response to crybabies. If your gonna kill pets just get rid of them alltogether and replace the summon tree with somethingelse already. As someone who played this game since 2014 and seen all the changes to pets over the years Im getting real tired of this ***...

@Katboy333 Look at what's needed, it was the balance of needing Spell Damage as well as max Magika. Twilight didn't take a direct nerf unless I'm mistake?

Also twilight should only be your burst heal. You should be slamming down Restro skills and the twilight as a panic

Like I have already said I was using the twilight as burst heal. Healers go max magicka, the twilight doesnt buff from max magicka only anymore so yes there is a nerf for sorc healers. Im not a dps so I shouldnt have to get spell damage to rebuff it and loose max magicka in the process.

You are looking at it wrong, spell damage has always buffed heals. Hence some DDs run Nirn up front instead of sharpened, not for the damage (as ~230 SD is negligible) but for the side buff to Heals.

They have just changed how pets work. You haven't been nerfed you just need to adjust your setup that's all..

What's your setup then, sets, CP, skills. Would help folks help..

mobicera · September 2020

universal_wrath wrote: »

vectoraz22 wrote: »

If you're not using and reapplying combat prayer everytime it comes up then your really giving your group a huge disservice. The damage buff from cbp needs to be up at times for the extra dps you get from the buff. And If your not doing your job as a healer by applying buff's then your not really a good healer at all.

Calling out someone to be a bad healer because they don't heal like you? Combat prayer is nice in both heals and buffs, but I never bothered to use it because there is a skill called comufpaged hunter both magicka and stamina DDs can use and have better uptime on minor berserk than I do with combat. You guys just making healer overwork for no reason. I already wear buffing sets and help with sustain, survivabilty and crowd control. What't next? You only qualify as a healer if you can do atleast 60 mil on raid dummy? What is wrong with being full healer with out any buffs/debuffs? If dps can't pull there wieght without healer support, why is it healer fault? Healers and tanks supports only meant to increase what is already a good dps.

No use combat prayer, it's the healers responsibility.
Expecting mag to equip camo hunter is a joke.
Most would just use slimecraw and run without a healer that refused to fulfill the role or in the case of a trial, find one that will.
Healer is a support role, so support to the full extent you are able to.

Katboy333 · September 2020

Beardimus wrote: »

Katboy333 wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

Katboy333 wrote: »

I used to be able to heal 21k with my full healer's twilight, now only 14k. The healing twilight was the only advantage you had as a sorcerer healer. Might aswell slot combat prayer instead of the twilight and get an extra skill, but if Im gonna do that why even play a sorcerer healer in the first place.
FYI yes I can heal engame content as a sorc healer just fine, so no I dont want to heal with another class. Just stop with these *** nerfs in response to crybabies. If your gonna kill pets just get rid of them alltogether and replace the summon tree with somethingelse already. As someone who played this game since 2014 and seen all the changes to pets over the years Im getting real tired of this ***...

@Katboy333 Look at what's needed, it was the balance of needing Spell Damage as well as max Magika. Twilight didn't take a direct nerf unless I'm mistake?

Also twilight should only be your burst heal. You should be slamming down Restro skills and the twilight as a panic

Like I have already said I was using the twilight as burst heal. Healers go max magicka, the twilight doesnt buff from max magicka only anymore so yes there is a nerf for sorc healers. Im not a dps so I shouldnt have to get spell damage to rebuff it and loose max magicka in the process.

You are looking at it wrong, spell damage has always buffed heals. Hence some DDs run Nirn up front instead of sharpened, not for the damage (as ~230 SD is negligible) but for the side buff to Heals.

They have just changed how pets work. You haven't been nerfed you just need to adjust your setup that's all..

What's your setup then, sets, CP, skills. Would help folks help..

Thats the thing though Im just so sick of zos changing everything forcing me to remake my pve build all the *** time because they want to "balance" pvp.

idk · September 2020

Scarletblaze wrote: »

spc was buffed lol it's insanely good in trials atm. and healers have never been about full healing...its ALWAYS been about buffs/debuffs to maximize group dmg output. healers and tanks share basically the same gear set pools now too...its all about supporting the group, not healing.

Pretty much this and it has been this way since the game went live. Heck, DSA was added back in 2014 and a 50/50 healer quickly became the standard for clearing it vet. I equipped two heals, BoL and Repentance, and rarely used BoL. My damage was not far off from the full DDs.

This is not a game where group builds and composition are on rails like FF14 and WoW and that is part of what makes this game so much better.

Astrid · September 2020

Katboy333 wrote: »

Might aswell slot combat prayer instead of the twilight and get an extra skill

I’ve never facepalmed so hard in all my life. Combat prayer is a must. You're right, healers do benefit from a large magicka pool but thing is spell damage nowadays is more important. Infused spell damage jewels especially on sorc as you can just dark conversion yourself more magicka from your stamina pool for literally endless resource whilst applying minor prophecy. Your matriarch will still hit like a train if you have enough spell damage, regen nowadays is essentially pointless. Plus! You contribute to damage moreso if you’re specced for it, more damage > less need to panic smash your matriarch to death.

Astrid · September 2020

universal_wrath wrote: »

vectoraz22 wrote: »

If you're not using and reapplying combat prayer everytime it comes up then your really giving your group a huge disservice. The damage buff from cbp needs to be up at times for the extra dps you get from the buff. And If your not doing your job as a healer by applying buff's then your not really a good healer at all.

Calling out someone to be a bad healer because they don't heal like you? Combat prayer is nice in both heals and buffs, but I never bothered to use it because there is a skill called comufpaged hunter both magicka and stamina DDs can use and have better uptime on minor berserk than I do with combat. You guys just making healer overwork for no reason. I already wear buffing sets and help with sustain, survivabilty and crowd control. What't next? You only qualify as a healer if you can do atleast 60 mil on raid dummy? What is wrong with being full healer with out any buffs/debuffs? If dps can't pull there wieght without healer support, why is it healer fault? Healers and tanks supports only meant to increase what is already a good dps.

Are you just standing there heavy attacking by any chance bc honestly i’m a healer main and it literally bores me to tears half the time outside of raids, imagine giving yourself less to do than you are already on the most undervalued role and expecting a dd who is doing a full rotation to kill the thing you’re just stood basically looking at overhealing and contributing nothing to buff themselves. I would probably uninstall if that were a healers real job.

Zodiarkslayer · September 2020

Katboy333 wrote: »

I used to be able to heal 21k with my full healer's twilight, now only 14k. The healing twilight was the only advantage you had as a sorcerer healer. Might aswell slot combat prayer instead of the twilight and get an extra skill, but if Im gonna do that why even play a sorcerer healer in the first place.
FYI yes I can heal engame content as a sorc healer just fine, so no I dont want to heal with another class. Just stop with these *** nerfs in response to crybabies. If your gonna kill pets just get rid of them alltogether and replace the summon tree with somethingelse already. As someone who played this game since 2014 and seen all the changes to pets over the years Im getting real tired of this ***...

In response I can only say this: After a good nights sleep the tiredness is usually gone.

But seriously:
Twilight Matriarch is not the ONLY advantage a sorc healer has over other classes. There are dark deal, crystal weapon, surge, the Atronach ults, the suppression field ult and literally all the passives are either unique or standalone good, .....

I mean: If you play it right, the MagSorc Healer can be a very versatile contributer to all types of group compositions.

Olupajmibanan · September 2020

Grandchamp1989 wrote: »

Antis3n1l wrote: »

Grandchamp1989 wrote: »

Scarletblaze wrote: »

spc was buffed lol it's insanely good in trials atm. and healers have never been about full healing...its ALWAYS been about buffs/debuffs to maximize group dmg output. healers and tanks share basically the same gear set pools now too...its all about supporting the group, not healing.

"Spell Power Cure: Reduced the duration of the Major Courage granted from this set to 5 seconds, down from 10"

Its effect was literally cut in half. The 50% proc chance it had before did nothing because it would always apply due to HOTS - IF you overhealed. Now when you overheal the effect is literally halfed lol.

You seem to forget that SPC has no cooldown so you can proc it as soon as it runs out. an uptime of 90%+ is realy easy to get with it

Proc'ing spell power cure was never an issue. With multiple HOTS the 50% proc was instant to begin with. Even one HOT would provice enough tics to make it instant.

Keeping major courage up during combat when people are not at full health is much harder as it require overheal. So it was much safer to have 10 seconds to heal your team than having 5 seconds to re-proc it.

It was a huge nerf to uptime, they literally cut the effect in half and buffed something that wasn't a problem to begin with.

It's still one of the better choices for healers which isn't saying much these days.

SPC got huge buff and it's much better than before.

Before:
6 target cap
10 second duration
50% chance to proc from overheals

Now:
12 target cap
5 second duration
100% chance to proc from overheals

How can you even consider this as a nerf? To use SPC effectively, two healers had to run it at the same time. Now, one group set is freed up thanks to this change, which is absolutely great.

Katboy333 · September 2020

Astrid wrote: »

Katboy333 wrote: »

Might aswell slot combat prayer instead of the twilight and get an extra skill

I’ve never facepalmed so hard in all my life. Combat prayer is a must. You're right, healers do benefit from a large magicka pool but thing is spell damage nowadays is more important. Infused spell damage jewels especially on sorc as you can just dark conversion yourself more magicka from your stamina pool for literally endless resource whilst applying minor prophecy. Your matriarch will still hit like a train if you have enough spell damage, regen nowadays is essentially pointless. Plus! You contribute to damage moreso if you’re specced for it, more damage > less need to panic smash your matriarch to death.

Good way to remake my build yes, I do use conversion already to buff too. Like I already said I use prayer in trials or when needed. I just cant be bothered with pugs who cant stack and all I play is pugs. Though all Im gonna say about prayer is if they need it to have good dps they just *** suck simple as that.

Zodiarkslayer wrote: »

Katboy333 wrote: »

I used to be able to heal 21k with my full healer's twilight, now only 14k. The healing twilight was the only advantage you had as a sorcerer healer. Might aswell slot combat prayer instead of the twilight and get an extra skill, but if Im gonna do that why even play a sorcerer healer in the first place.
FYI yes I can heal engame content as a sorc healer just fine, so no I dont want to heal with another class. Just stop with these *** nerfs in response to crybabies. If your gonna kill pets just get rid of them alltogether and replace the summon tree with somethingelse already. As someone who played this game since 2014 and seen all the changes to pets over the years Im getting real tired of this ***...

In response I can only say this: After a good nights sleep the tiredness is usually gone.

But seriously:
Twilight Matriarch is not the ONLY advantage a sorc healer has over other classes. There are dark deal, crystal weapon, surge, the Atronach ults, the suppression field ult and literally all the passives are either unique or standalone good, .....

I mean: If you play it right, the MagSorc Healer can be a very versatile contributer to all types of group compositions.

Its basically the strongest advantage as a HEALER sorc, I was talking about skills and I wasnt talking about other roles, the healing on the field is garbage.

Starlight_Whisper · September 2020

They got crystal weapon now. It's a unquie penetration debuff that no set or other class gets.

Narvuntien · September 2020

Yeah, I rerolled my Sorc healer after the nerfs... I play a nerco healer now.

Zodiarkslayer · September 2020

@Katboy333 Oh Boy!
I will say this again: There are MORE class skills that a Magicka Sorcerer can utilize in the role of a healer than just the Matriarch Twilight!

Just as one example: Dark deal combines both a burst heal and a super sustain in one cheap package. And it costs stamina, which is not even the primary ressource on a healer. No other class has that! Hence it is a comparative advantage of the sorcerer class!

Reducing a whole class to one skill (however good or outstanding it is) is equivalent to stating a football team is only good because its one world class forward. Or an American Football team is only good because of its outstanding Quaterback. Both disregard the rest of the team.

And personally I would like to add, that I still regard the sorcerer class to be the BEST suited for healing 4 man group dungeons. NOT trials, but Dungeons.

holden_caulfield · September 2020

vectoraz22 wrote: »

If you're not using and reapplying combat prayer everytime it comes up then your really giving your group a huge disservice. The damage buff from cbp needs to be up at times for the extra dps you get from the buff. And If your not doing your job as a healer by applying buff's then your not really a good healer at all.

I dont understand the fact that DDs have a say on how me, an healer, should play my role.
I don't do trials for this same reason. [snip]

I show more skill as an healer making pugs finish dlc vet dungeons hm in this game than playing a buff bot in trials

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Aznarb · September 2020

No problem in my Healsorc this patch..
I barely use Matri burst and it's still strong enough to made a Tank full hp in one touch.

Sorc and Templar was and are still the easiest healer toplay in the game with very forgiving set-up and extremely easy access to hybrid dmg.
They are the 2 best healer for DG where heal is useless 80% of the time, pretty easy to do 30k+ dmg with them and still healing like crazy.

Sound more like a player problem.

holden_caulfield wrote: »

vectoraz22 wrote: »

If you're not using and reapplying combat prayer everytime it comes up then your really giving your group a huge disservice. The damage buff from cbp needs to be up at times for the extra dps you get from the buff. And If your not doing your job as a healer by applying buff's then your not really a good healer at all.

I dont understand the fact that DDs have a say on how me, an healer, should play my role.
I don't do trials for this same reason. I would have to use a standard setup just to make your epeens grow bigger.

I show more skill as an healer making pugs finish dlc vet dungeons hm in this game than playing a buff bot in trials

That because to much people have no clue about what meta is and where it's needed.
Meta is not to made thing easier is to made thing faster in ESO, that why every Meta are heavy DDs focused.
Now, how much of people in this forum run for GS/GH/TTT/Leaderboard ? 5 %, less ? Even their many uptime are not perfect (gl to find a group with perfect horn rotation).

The vast majority of the game population will do better with build adapted to their own group class, build and skill level.
What the point of slapping Alkosh-Yolna on a Tank if this one is not good enough to sustain and staying alive ? Or if his team don't give him enough ressource / synergy ? Yup, useless. Better use set to help him staying alive.

People blindly follow video where they saw the mighty 90k+ Dps. Funny enough with 40k dps from everyone in the group you'll complete pretty much every vtrial hm. Gonna be longer, yeah, but who care if you apply strat and tank don't die ?

To much people think they're better than their really are and put themself barrier preventing them to succeed.

As a healer, or Tank, your main role is to stay alive to keep other alive. Then give them ressources, then buff / debuff, then DPS. In that order.
If you can't do the 1st step, their is no point to try the other.

I've complete many vtrial and hm with good player and meta build, but with progress/casual guild I use a totally different set-up to give them more chance to succeed.

Stop thinking meta is useful for everyone and everywhere, it's not, meta are for good player, and from what I see in game most of player are not good enough to made meta work.
And last, meta change for every group, their is no magical recipe, look closer at all esolog done by very good player, you'll be surprise.

Scarletblaze · September 2020

Healer's Haven discord would help you

Join us!
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josiahva · September 2020

scorpius2k1 wrote: »

vectoraz22 wrote: »

If you're not using and reapplying combat prayer everytime it comes up then your really giving your group a huge disservice. The damage buff from cbp needs to be up at times for the extra dps you get from the buff. And If your not doing your job as a healer by applying buff's then your not really a good healer at all.

I use CBP all the time but man, sometimes when the group keeps dancing all over the place it becomes quite the task to keep the buff up and I'm having to use 2-3x the magic just to keep it applied. Any ideas on a better strategy to combat that?

Also me: I should stop running pugs as much as I do.

Yep....you can have the tank help with that. I run resto staff and combat prayer on my back bar as a tank for most 4-man content that doesn't require me to run an ice staff. I will occasionally swap to lightning staff if I know the healer is taking care of combat prayer...but I play a lot of 3DD stuff these days where there is no healer so combat prayer is a mainstay for me....the burst heal may only be good for 5-6k on my tank...but of course that's not why I run it. My backbar as a tank looks like this:

With Resto staff:

1. Healing ward(an emergency save for struggling DDs is always handy)
2. Combat Prayer
3. Green Dragon Blood(yes, my main self heal is back-bar since I have 2 shields front bar)
4. Orbs(I run the damage morph since healer usually runs healing morph and I am pretty sure the diff morphs stack)
5. Blood Altar...minor lifesteal and a emergency self-heal for the DDs...all for a minuscule health cost and a long duration.

With Lightning staff:

1.Elemental Drain
2. Wall of Elements
3. Green Dragon Blood
4. Orbs
5. Circle of Protection

With Ice Staff:

1. Meditate
2. Wall of Elements(sometimes Time Stop instead)
3. Greed Dragon Blood
4. Charging Manuever
5. Circle of Protection

I find that as a tank I am often positioned just as well or better than healer to apply combat prayer and orbs(unless its one of those DDs that love to hang way back out of range of my buffs and shields)

BeamsForDemacia · September 2020

sorcheal is actually used in mst optimized groups atm for roaring and crit buff but yeah it must be totally useless

Katboy333 · September 2020

Zodiarkslayer wrote: »

@Katboy333 Oh Boy!
I will say this again: There are MORE class skills that a Magicka Sorcerer can utilize in the role of a healer than just the Matriarch Twilight!

Just as one example: Dark deal combines both a burst heal and a super sustain in one cheap package. And it costs stamina, which is not even the primary ressource on a healer. No other class has that! Hence it is a comparative advantage of the sorcerer class!

Reducing a whole class to one skill (however good or outstanding it is) is equivalent to stating a football team is only good because its one world class forward. Or an American Football team is only good because of its outstanding Quaterback. Both disregard the rest of the team.

And personally I would like to add, that I still regard the sorcerer class to be the BEST suited for healing 4 man group dungeons. NOT trials, but Dungeons.

@Zodiarkslayer Oh boy! someone who doesnt read again.
I will say this again: I already said I was using the conversion skill.

Astrid · September 2020

BeamsForDemacia wrote: »

sorcheal is actually used in mst optimized groups atm for roaring and crit buff but yeah it must be totally useless

True for the crit, RO suits a DK healer with Z’ens moreso now. Sorcs just as nice as they can achieve high max mag and spell damage though.

Katboy333 wrote: »

Astrid wrote: »

Katboy333 wrote: »

Might aswell slot combat prayer instead of the twilight and get an extra skill

I’ve never facepalmed so hard in all my life. Combat prayer is a must. You're right, healers do benefit from a large magicka pool but thing is spell damage nowadays is more important. Infused spell damage jewels especially on sorc as you can just dark conversion yourself more magicka from your stamina pool for literally endless resource whilst applying minor prophecy. Your matriarch will still hit like a train if you have enough spell damage, regen nowadays is essentially pointless. Plus! You contribute to damage moreso if you’re specced for it, more damage > less need to panic smash your matriarch to death.

Good way to remake my build yes, I do use conversion already to buff too. Like I already said I use prayer in trials or when needed. I just cant be bothered with pugs who cant stack and all I play is pugs. Though all Im gonna say about prayer is if they need it to have good dps they just *** suck simple as that.

One thing i’ve learnt in all my time healing over these years - stack where you’re meant to. 9/10 behind the boss facing the tank with enough space for the dds to slot infront of you. If they choose to stand behind you - don’t heal them. It’s called learning. Don’t babysit idiots with matriarch and radiant regen when you could be dealing damage yourself. It’s such a waste. If they say anything, kindly point them to the spot infront of you. Not the same for all fights with high mobility, but for stack and burns they shouldn’t be away from you whatsoever. Don’t cater to them. Rightfully in those scenarios you only need combat prayer and orb healing wise, maybe power surge bc it grants you spell damage which in turn is bigger healing and more damage.

universal_wrath · September 2020

mobicera wrote: »

universal_wrath wrote: »

vectoraz22 wrote: »

If you're not using and reapplying combat prayer everytime it comes up then your really giving your group a huge disservice. The damage buff from cbp needs to be up at times for the extra dps you get from the buff. And If your not doing your job as a healer by applying buff's then your not really a good healer at all.

Calling out someone to be a bad healer because they don't heal like you? Combat prayer is nice in both heals and buffs, but I never bothered to use it because there is a skill called comufpaged hunter both magicka and stamina DDs can use and have better uptime on minor berserk than I do with combat. You guys just making healer overwork for no reason. I already wear buffing sets and help with sustain, survivabilty and crowd control. What't next? You only qualify as a healer if you can do atleast 60 mil on raid dummy? What is wrong with being full healer with out any buffs/debuffs? If dps can't pull there wieght without healer support, why is it healer fault? Healers and tanks supports only meant to increase what is already a good dps.

No use combat prayer, it's the healers responsibility.
Expecting mag to equip camo hunter is a joke.
Most would just use slimecraw and run without a healer that refused to fulfill the role or in the case of a trial, find one that will.
Healer is a support role, so support to the full extent you are able to.

Why using camo is a joke?

universal_wrath · September 2020

Astrid wrote: »

universal_wrath wrote: »

vectoraz22 wrote: »

If you're not using and reapplying combat prayer everytime it comes up then your really giving your group a huge disservice. The damage buff from cbp needs to be up at times for the extra dps you get from the buff. And If your not doing your job as a healer by applying buff's then your not really a good healer at all.

Calling out someone to be a bad healer because they don't heal like you? Combat prayer is nice in both heals and buffs, but I never bothered to use it because there is a skill called comufpaged hunter both magicka and stamina DDs can use and have better uptime on minor berserk than I do with combat. You guys just making healer overwork for no reason. I already wear buffing sets and help with sustain, survivabilty and crowd control. What't next? You only qualify as a healer if you can do atleast 60 mil on raid dummy? What is wrong with being full healer with out any buffs/debuffs? If dps can't pull there wieght without healer support, why is it healer fault? Healers and tanks supports only meant to increase what is already a good dps.

Are you just standing there heavy attacking by any chance bc honestly i’m a healer main and it literally bores me to tears half the time outside of raids, imagine giving yourself less to do than you are already on the most undervalued role and expecting a dd who is doing a full rotation to kill the thing you’re just stood basically looking at overhealing and contributing nothing to buff themselves. I would probably uninstall if that were a healers real job.

My healer wears symphony, imperium/ twilight remedy, comat physicain/infaiable eather. I run 4-5 synrgies, i detch blood alter if tank use it. I streak mobs to stun them, i encase them. I negate when needed. What more do you want me to do? I do more on my healer than I do on my dps while managing everyones health and making sure they use synrgies which most of the times they don't

Astrid · September 2020

universal_wrath wrote: »

My healer wears symphony, imperium/ twilight remedy, comat physicain/infaiable eather. I run 4-5 synrgies, i detch blood alter if tank use it. I streak mobs to stun them, i encase them. I negate when needed. What more do you want me to do? I do more on my healer than I do on my dps while managing everyones health and making sure they use synrgies which most of the times they don't

I wrote quite a paragraph out about your set and skill choices and kinda stopped myself bc I don’t really want to tell you how to play or what sets you should be running bc not everyone’s the same. The only thing I must say is expecting dds to run camo or slime if they don’t want to when you can apply the same buff with 1 skill that isn’t hard to maintain when healers do essentially nothing is ridiculous. Synergies have a cooldown and majority of them are shared (orb, alter) so you’re not refreshing them constantly per person. Just give it a whirl, the faster stuff is dead, the easier your life is and minor beserk is noticeable when it isn’t present.

universal_wrath · September 2020

Astrid wrote: »

universal_wrath wrote: »

My healer wears symphony, imperium/ twilight remedy, comat physicain/infaiable eather. I run 4-5 synrgies, i detch blood alter if tank use it. I streak mobs to stun them, i encase them. I negate when needed. What more do you want me to do? I do more on my healer than I do on my dps while managing everyones health and making sure they use synrgies which most of the times they don't

I wrote quite a paragraph out about your set and skill choices and kinda stopped myself bc I don’t really want to tell you how to play or what sets you should be running bc not everyone’s the same. The only thing I must say is expecting dds to run camo or slime if they don’t want to when you can apply the same buff with 1 skill that isn’t hard to maintain when healers do essentially nothing is ridiculous. Synergies have a cooldown and majority of them are shared (orb, alter) so you’re not refreshing them constantly per person. Just give it a whirl, the faster stuff is dead, the easier your life is and minor beserk is noticeable when it isn’t present.

I don't think alter and orb are same synrg, both function differently. If they both have same cooldown, I might drop one of them, most likely alter. What you said about camu and prqyer is somewhat correct. My point is that if stam specs found a my to fit in camu in their bars, I'm sure mag specs can do that too. Almost all stam specs use it now, and I myself recently started slot camu on my magcro and magDK and I have almost 100% uptime on minor berserk. I usually have 1-2 flex spots on my bars/builds so I found a way to fit it in. I would give prayer a go if I match with mag spec DD and they are not jumping all over the place. Other than that, most of the time it is redundant on stam specs and require micro managment for jumping targets.

Sinlar · September 2020

The only complaint this one has about the changes, is that Twilight can no longer heal Clanfear.
That ability was something that he had been using for years and was extremely useful.
This one misses it greatly.

ajkb78 · September 2020

Yeah. Sorc healer is so ruined that one of the healers in the PS4 EU group that got Godslayer on Monday was a sorc. Totally ruined 🙄

deevoh1991 · September 2020

Zos: "you're welcome

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I play healer and it's ok for me. I pop power surge (whatever heals group) , resto abilities like grand healing, rapid regen, ward , healing orb ,elemtal drain and equip olorime and some other set . Mask I usually go for chokethorn. Very rarely symphony blades.
I.heal through everything fine. I prefer panacea over war horn for oh crap situations