Sad fact is to be a main healer you must use the staff. Templar heals are extremely powerful but were never meant (apparently do to some changes) to replace the resto staff in pve.

Where Templars shine is pvp. Easy access cleanse aoe heals and instant cast burst heal. I even added the FG sigil defense buff to use up stamina while mitigating damage.

Pve resto staff. Pvp resto staff for the regen proc and Templar heals.

I disagree. Aside from Restoring Aura all the Templar skills in Restoring Light are awesome.

Rushed Ceremony is a very powerful emergency heal: the closest Resto staff has is Steadfast Ward which is just as expensive. If magicka is a problem morph it into Honour the Dead.

Yeah I agree, I find the Templar heals to be fantastic and much more suited to my playstyle. I'm not a big HoT guy anyway lol, much prefer the direct heals. Once you get a few passive points going, you can really bomb away on dps with your bow for a bit, then drop a couple big heals to get everyone up, then go back to dpsing. I swap in resto staff heals a bit, but usually just one on my bar at any given time.

Resto nightblade can do just as good but its centralized around healing over time. I just prefer it that way.

I main heal as resto nightblade bloodmage in dungeon for 3 reason and I challenge anyone to pretend nightblade doesn't do as good if not better in a dungeoneering environment

1. Funnel health - Healing over time stacks and deals damage!
2. Path - Same heal as Healing spring for 3 time the duration (10 second aoe healing)... always in front of the player however
3. Has several ultimate that can heal the team

Nightblade can heal just as well as a Templar in dungeon all while doing damage so tell me why should I pick a Templar over a nightblade that can overheal damage with HOT as they are dealth to the team all while beneficing from a quick source of ultimate.

I think resto Templar is fine in its current niche as a surge healer but id realy appreciate if people could at least admit they aren't always the best.

I don't have too much experience with NB heals but as far as I'm aware of, it's more prone to your team screwing up and eating spokes than Temp healers.

Xaei wrote: »

I don't have too much experience with NB heals but as far as I'm aware of, it's more prone to your team screwing up and eating spokes than Temp healers.

I was a NB healer in beta and it worked well, Vanish is good when you get too much attention as healer, then just land HEALZ and you evade a wipe.

If you gear yourself with light armor and -spell cost rings and amulet, you are pretty much able to heal easily with resto staff.

Comparing a Templar without resto staff, makes me choose any other class as healer as Templar is lowest on the foodchain as a group healer (if the templar does not use resto staff).

my 2c

resto tree is OP, once i get the levels for the skills i need ill be at 90% crit healing.

Resto staff has barely above half the healing power of templar heals and that's without factoring in crits which are much more prevalent in templar heals. Templar heals for more, they heal faster and they heal in ways that are much more convenient for a group.

The biggest downside you might have is the cost. I have 0 points in magicka and some enchants giving me 1444 magicka, 70/2 regen and have spell symmetry with full light armor I've never once been in a situation where I've even had to think about using a magicka pot. If it was ever an issue I'd just use spell symmetry a little more often. The resto line in general is utterly terrible outside the heavy attack and it's passives.

I can stand in fights and throw off 900+ rituals to my entire group or bring someone from 5% health to 100% in a second with breath of life. I can keep up my tanks stamina permanently with shards so he never misses a block and I can add massive amounts of damage with backlash.

I don't think giving up half your healing power for more efficiency when efficiency isn't a problem to begin with. The only thing I can think of is you are standing there scratching your butt in a fight instead of ensuring maximum magicka restoration with heavy attacks.


EDIT: I should explain the magicka issue further... so for those unaware restoration staff has a hidden passive that it restores 10% max magicka at the end of each heavy attack channel. If you are constantly channeling this you have MASSIVE regen and have more than enough to fuel using templars big heals and because of the size of these heals you have more time to use more heavy attacks. Most boss fights I often stay above 75% the entire fight without issue. For this reason alone you should almost always be using a resto staff when healing regardless of if you use the resto staff skills or templar heals.

If things get hairy I bring in spell symmetry which does 3 things... first it trades health for magicka allowing me to cast more heals and using ritual heals everyone and you for substantially more completely offsetting the health cost. It also reduces the cost of the next spell 25% this works best with big expensive heals. Lastly it triggers might of the guild passive boosting your spell power by 20% for your next spell causing your next spell to be incredibly powerful and incredibly cheap, perfect from breath of life or ritual.

Worth pointing out that spell symmetry prevents healing on you for a couple seconds so it's not something to use when under fire.

teh_ninjaneer wrote: »

Seems I'm the only person that feels Restoring Light is better suited for tanking than healing. Most of the skills are primarily focused on yourself.

For example, Healing Ritual - why do you need that extra 30% on yourself if you are standing in the back healing others?

Because to use Healing Ritual, which is a PbAoE, you have to run closer to the fray. The extra self healing helps to mitigate the danger a bit.

You never ever want to use Healing Ritual solely as a self-heal. It simply doesn't work. Rushed Ceremony is your friend there.

thank you for all the good points. my main take away is use two staves when i weapon swap. that thought never occurred to me.

i always did see the +10% magicka when using staff heavy attack on my damage meter but sometimes that proc wouldn't show. maybe because of lag. i'm always attacking with my staff now when not healing so aside from very long fights with many adds and low dps (EH boss), i've not had magicka issues.

again, still doing noob instances so not sure what end game will be like. also, i'm still a fan of HoTs. i used to MT in WoW (up to 40s and TBC raids) and always liked hots keeping my health well above 50% and safe from burst/crushing blows.

anyway, see you all at 50.

I would like a little information on how the heal spells work myself. I seem to have a problem with spells not doing what the tool tip says. For example I am playing a Templar healer and i have a single target heal that i want to throw on someone, they are in my cross hairs and the only person on the screen, I cast the spell and it will travel to someone behind me not even in the fight or group. It also does this when i try and use the shield ability (I think this is part of the resto staff cant remember off the top of my head.) The tool tip says cast a shield on the lowest health allies, again only the tank is in front of me at half hp and taking damage and the shield will cast on someone behind me or on myself before finally getting the tank. Am I doing something wrong, is there a way to get my spells to always hit my intended target or will it always be a coin flip? Thanks in advance if someone can give me any advice on what i am doing wrong, or ideas on how to fix this.