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On your Healers do you use Healing Springs?
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svendf✭✭✭✭ZaroktheImmortal wrote: »All dungeons clearly need to be run with 4 dps no tanks or healers. It's one or the other if you don't need the buffs and debuffs you don't need either. I know you want to feel like your role is important but by your own logic it's not.
only a little part of the community need a 4th dps. DD´s who build for dps don´t have problems regarding healer assistance and do really welcome healers - that´s how it looks I my game world - that goes for normal and vet.
Build a hybrid dd you will miss out and need another dd - it´s so simple. Healers will allways be important for a large group of player´s.
Build a pure dd and no one need a holding hand from a 4th dd
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ClawOfTheTwoMoons✭✭✭✭When i do dungeons with random people, i usually play healer and most of the time healer is very much needed in my experience
i realize this is not always the case when one plays with friends.
Exactly, and even then, some DLC hard modes are insane, I'm not saying those can't be done with 3 dd's, but I'd imagine a very small amount of groups can do it. A majority of players in game appreciate healers. The forums have a damage hard on.0 -
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✭ZaroktheImmortal wrote: »All dungeons clearly need to be run with 4 dps no tanks or healers. It's one or the other if you don't need the buffs and debuffs you don't need either. I know you want to feel like your role is important but by your own logic it's not.
only a little part of the community need a 4th dps. DD´s who build for dps don´t have problems regarding healer assistance and do really welcome healers - that´s how it looks I my game world - that goes for normal and vet.
Build a hybrid dd you will miss out and need another dd - it´s so simple. Healers will allways be important for a large group of player´s.
Build a pure dd and no one need a holding hand from a 4th dd
That's exactly my point. If the DPS are doing their job then the support roles don't need to be doing the dps for them and they can work together as a group to clear up enemies quite quickly. Support roles shouldn't be expected to be doing the dps.0 -
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✭✭✭✭FrancisCrawford wrote: »I've experimented a bit with Winter's Respite as my second set after SPC, but I don't think it's accomplished much for me.
I love that for Warden healers, they have a Lot of ground based heals to trigger it. For example, not gonna go there with my NB healer.Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
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✭FrancisCrawford wrote: »Grianasteri wrote: »
How are you missing with Combat prayer? Its instantaneous... a burst heal and buff... Im not criticising just wonder out loud.
Your teammates may not stay close enough together for one cast of Combat Prayer to hit everybody.
And in a dungeon, double-casting Combat Prayer is pretty expensive for the benefit conferred.
OK fair enough. I went back to healing last night and did a couple of vet Scalecaller runs, yes I was double casting it fairly often to make sure I hit everyone. Folk just wont stand still lol!
I did not however find my sustain was really an issue. I think I came close to running out a few times, but just popped a potion and cracked on.
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✭newtinmpls wrote: »FrancisCrawford wrote: »I've experimented a bit with Winter's Respite as my second set after SPC, but I don't think it's accomplished much for me.
I love that for Warden healers, they have a Lot of ground based heals to trigger it. For example, not gonna go there with my NB healer.
Yes on my Warden I absolutely love running Winters Respite. It works extremely well with Budding seeds, which I use to proc it, and it just makes this huge area of really really strong healing. And looks great Edited by Grianasteri on September 3, 2020 9:38AM0 -
tgrippa✭✭✭✭✭ZaroktheImmortal wrote: »the1andonlyskwex wrote: »ZaroktheImmortal wrote: »the1andonlyskwex wrote: »ZaroktheImmortal wrote: »There's no healer needed in 4 man content.
Healer in dungeons = dps loss
Err you do realise healers can buff team and debuff enemies so you do more damage and keep your stamina and magika up and can make the fights go faster? If your dps is that bad that you think the support roles should be doing your job for you well...plus try doing the harder content like that and see how far you get. This just shows a lack of understand on how roles work and what healers actually do they do a lot more than just healing as it turns out.
If you only look at damage buffs, in a 4-man with a tank you would need to increase the DD DPS by 50% to be more valuable than just having another DD. In most cases, if the group can survive without a healer, you're better off with another DD instead.
That said, lots of groups can't survive without a healer.
Between ofsetting enemies olorime combat prayers and various buffs and debuffs healers do also war horn is a good ultimate for boosting both damage and resource pool. If there still isn't enough damage being done then really that's on the DPS. The healer shouldn't be expected to be doing the DPS job. And you can actually clear enemies fast if you actually let the support roles do their job assuming the dps can actually dps. At the point they're expecting others to do their job for them that just says to me they're bad at their role.
You're missing my point. Sure, you can kill stuff "fast" with a healer, but all of the buffs you mentioned only add up to about 25% increased DPS. If you replace all that with another DD equal to the average of the two DDs you already have, you'll kill stuff even faster, plus some of the common healer buffs and debuffs can be provided by the tank instead (or one of the DD without sacrificing much DPS).
Where all of the healer buffs start coming out ahead is in trials, where the number of DD benefiting is much larger.
By that argument why do you need a tank? Why not 4 dps? If your argument is you don't need support roles cause DPS ROOLS WE DON'T NEED YOU HEALERS. Then surely you don't need a tank.
Honestly in some dungeons you do not even need a tank, i.e. in last few days I tanked vCoH and Selene on my magblade (taunt and dodge while parsing) with three other dds, one slotting eledrain, v easy and quick, no heal or dd needed.
For dungeons where you need a tank, the tank can simply slot symphony of blades with healing orb, maybe SPC/Olo for group buffs and yolnah/PA or whatever and you are gucci as 3DD in pretty much all vet DLCs.
As to healers slotting the skill mentioned by OP, well it’s situational and probably not too important in a dungeon.Edited by tgrippa on September 3, 2020 9:53AMPCEU
heh.
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✭✭✭✭✭My healer was running Winter's Respite for a time. However, this latest patch changed it to only helping 'group members' instead of allies so I dumped it. While I do some grouping, more of my healing is actually at dragons, harrowstorms, WBs, public dungeons, etc. If a set or skill helps only my group but ignores nearby randoms, I won't wear/use it. Barrier, Earthgore are other examples that were retired for the same reason. What's next? Illustrious Healing only helps members you are grouped with?Edited by AcadianPaladin on September 3, 2020 11:06AMPC NA(no Steam), PvE, mostly solo1 -
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For base game dungeons, YES, 4 dd is the way to go, since you can survive all the damage in that content. Let's say a dd deals 100 damage (not 100k dps, just the number 100 for easy calculation) then 2 dds will deal 200 damage. 4 dds will deal 400 damage. There is no way a tank and a healer can increase damage that much (double) so it's better to not have a tank or healer in base game content. It takes like 10 minutes to finish a dungeon with 4 dds with that damage. Also let's consider how each dd can slot an important tank/healer skill to make them even more obsolete.
Let's talk about the harder content, for example DLC dungeons. You NEED a tank for them because bosses have one-shots that you can't survive even with block, unless you're a tank. Tanks stack enemies, turn them around to let dds do their job with comfort and they absorb one-shots that dds cannot. A tank is much more useful to have than a healer. A healer can boost group damage by around 25% like said above, so if 2 dds have 200 damage, total damage becomes 250. However if you have a third dd with the same damage, total becomes 300. This means if the dds can survive the remaining damage that tank cannot prevent, they're better off without a healer. Also don't forget that when you kill enemies much faster, sustain becomes obsolete.
[snip] I don't like the way it is either and this is not our fault, it's the developers' fault. I said you probably don't play the hardest content because then you'd know tanks are mandatory. But if you play the easier content, you should know even better about the lack of importance for a healer. We're not stating opinions, these are facts based on maths and completion times of dungeons. We play both with and without a healer and we know that it's more effective without one.
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robo26✭✭✭the1andonlyskwex wrote: »It's usually awful in PuG dungeons because nobody stands in it anyway...
Nor in anything else you put down to help them. I have seen many ranged dd taking a lot of damage, "come stand in my rune, it will keep you from taking so much damage!" it never works!
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✭✭✭I think it's hugely important that we make the distinction between PUGs and pre formed groups.
Some guys in preformed guild groups knows every mech, parse 100k and can kite bosses forever and roll dodge time.
For them the sky is the limit, 4 of those could probably pick 4 healers and still clear HM MHK.
Pugging is another discussion entirely.
-Fake roles
-People don't know mechs
-Inexperienced tanks
-10K DPS stand in red every fight and pull the boss
-Healer who does Regen-Heavy attack all match in a corner with an ice staff taunting constantly
When this is what you have to work with the 1-2-1 setup is by far the most efficient and a must have for pugging DLC vet.0 -
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✭Should have been an option for Illustrious Healing.
I use that now instead of Healing Springs. Healing Springs to me just doesn't give enough magicka back (was nerfed) and if you cast it before it expires it cancels the first cast. Same for Illustrious so I just use Illustrious. Longer heal time so works well in my rotation.
I usually run Illustrious, Regen (or whatever it's called now) and Combat Prayer along with B.O.L. and one other healing skill. Sorry, I am terrible at remembering Skill names. I also only run one bar healing. The other bar is buffing/debuffing/regen for the group.
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✭Grandchamp1989 wrote: »I think it's hugely important that we make the distinction between PUGs and pre formed groups.
Some guys in preformed guild groups knows every mech, parse 100k and can kite bosses forever and roll dodge time.
For them the sky is the limit, 4 of those could probably pick 4 healers and still clear HM MHK.
Pugging is another discussion entirely.
-Fake roles
-People don't know mechs
-Inexperienced tanks
-10K DPS stand in red every fight and pull the boss
-Healer who does Regen-Heavy attack all match in a corner with an ice staff taunting constantly
When this is what you have to work with the 1-2-1 setup is by far the most efficient and a must have for pugging DLC vet.
I have been pugging vDSA as a tank lately(zone pugging, not GF), collecting the master weapons for no good reason really. I have noticed that there is a higher completion rate if we go as a group of 3DPS 1 Tank than a conventional group of 2DPS 1 Heals 1 Tank. The reason for this is that the average group DPS for these pugs is around 90k(the 3-4k DPS my tank contributes isn't material) whereas with a healer the average group DPS drops to about 60k DPS(remember, this is just a random pug, so I wouldn't expect high DPS regardless, and as a tank everyone has better DPS than me anyway) some groups have significantly more, but that is average according to combat metrics.
The reason completion of the arena for farming runs is easier is simply because they can burn stuff down faster(in particular the sacrifice stage and the last boss). Do people die a lot more without a healer in the content? They sure do, wipes are fairly common on the last boss and a couple other arenas, even though I will run a resto staff on my back bar up until the final arena and run combat prayer and healing ward while using orbs and blood altar for passive support...in the end though, what really matters for actual COMPLETION of that arena is the damage output and its simply easier with 3DPS...in this particular example its easier because 3 DPS you grab from zone will almost always have enough DPS to get through, even if you die a few times doing it.
I don't think anyone actually likes the fact that sometimes things are easier without support roles(I know for a fact base game dungeons with 4 DPS who know what they are doing is easier than 3 DPS and a tank, and even 4 less than ideal DPS would be able to muddle through just fine because of sheer damage output, the only time that rule breaks down is if the DPS is so bad that they just can't burn stuff....but in that case a tank or healer isn't going to help anyway)0 -
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✭✭✭Grandchamp1989 wrote: »I think it's hugely important that we make the distinction between PUGs and pre formed groups.
Some guys in preformed guild groups knows every mech, parse 100k and can kite bosses forever and roll dodge time.
For them the sky is the limit, 4 of those could probably pick 4 healers and still clear HM MHK.
Pugging is another discussion entirely.
-Fake roles
-People don't know mechs
-Inexperienced tanks
-10K DPS stand in red every fight and pull the boss
-Healer who does Regen-Heavy attack all match in a corner with an ice staff taunting constantly
When this is what you have to work with the 1-2-1 setup is by far the most efficient and a must have for pugging DLC vet.
I have been pugging vDSA as a tank lately(zone pugging, not GF), collecting the master weapons for no good reason really. I have noticed that there is a higher completion rate if we go as a group of 3DPS 1 Tank than a conventional group of 2DPS 1 Heals 1 Tank. The reason for this is that the average group DPS for these pugs is around 90k(the 3-4k DPS my tank contributes isn't material) whereas with a healer the average group DPS drops to about 60k DPS(remember, this is just a random pug, so I wouldn't expect high DPS regardless, and as a tank everyone has better DPS than me anyway) some groups have significantly more, but that is average according to combat metrics.
The reason completion of the arena for farming runs is easier is simply because they can burn stuff down faster(in particular the sacrifice stage and the last boss). Do people die a lot more without a healer in the content? They sure do, wipes are fairly common on the last boss and a couple other arenas, even though I will run a resto staff on my back bar up until the final arena and run combat prayer and healing ward while using orbs and blood altar for passive support...in the end though, what really matters for actual COMPLETION of that arena is the damage output and its simply easier with 3DPS...in this particular example its easier because 3 DPS you grab from zone will almost always have enough DPS to get through, even if you die a few times doing it.
I don't think anyone actually likes the fact that sometimes things are easier without support roles(I know for a fact base game dungeons with 4 DPS who know what they are doing is easier than 3 DPS and a tank, and even 4 less than ideal DPS would be able to muddle through just fine because of sheer damage output, the only time that rule breaks down is if the DPS is so bad that they just can't burn stuff....but in that case a tank or healer isn't going to help anyway)
I totally get what you're saying, and you're right - more DPS will generally make things safer.
You can skip a lot of mechs and it's nice!
I noticed from your post you got a lot of group healing going - I do the same on my tank. Most of the time because a lot of healers are fake so you have to be both tank and an off healer.
But in a lot of PUGS damage is a luxuary and people not standing in red circles is an even bigger luxuary.
You can have 3 DPS 1 tank but if the group damage is 30-40k and they stand in red all the time you're not better off at all. And that's the reality with a lot of PUGS.
Some PUGS are awesome! You burn through everything and it's an easy ride.
But in some instances supports are needed, and they're needed BADLY.
That's the dice roll of PUG, you never know what you'll get.
You can get a tank with 10k health, a roleplayer DPS and a healer who spams regen and heavy attack the whole dungeon.
I do all three roles, and when I PUG as a tank damage is more often than not a luxuary, even when our healer is a fake lol.
In those instances things would just go a lot more smooth with the 1-2-1 setup lol.0 -
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✭As long as I heal you and you don't die ... don't worry about it.... (I don't main a healer).Main Character:PS5/NA - Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar - Daggerfall Covenant
Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige
PvP Pure-class:
Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer
PvP: Subclassed
Two-Big-Horns an Argonian Arcanist (Sorcerer)
Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden (Ice-Theme)
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Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer (Tank)
Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer (Healer)
Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade (Bomber)
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Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight (Tank)
Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar (Healer)
Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Imperial Dragonknight (Damage)
Tyrus Septim an Imperial Sorcerer (Damage)
Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden (Arenas)
Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade (Thief)
Leveling...
Styx of Akatosh a Goblin*** Arcanist
Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Lycan Sorcerer
Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
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**Imperial
***Argonian
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Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.
Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.
Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...
Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.
Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.
The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.
The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.
Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.
Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)
And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.
After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.
After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...
Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.
Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.
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