Why You Should Play ESO in 2020 & 2021

ZOS_GregoryV · July 2020

Greetings all,

After removing a handful of posts, we would like to remind everyone that all posts should be kept civil, constructive, and within the guidelines of the rules we have in place. Bashing, Flaming, as well as Trolling and Baiting, are all violations of the rules, and are stated as follows:

Bashing and Slanderous Comments: We do not permit the bashing of individuals (including ZeniMax employees), groups, or other companies on our forums. We believe that doing so is neither constructive nor in spirit of our game and community.

Flaming: It’s okay to disagree and debate on the official ESO forums, but we do ask that you keep all disagreements civil, constructive, and on-topic. If a discussion gets heated and turns into a debate, remember that you should stick to debating the post and/or thread topic. It is never appropriate to resort to personal comments or jabs about those participating in the thread discussion.

Trolling or Baiting: The act of trolling is defined as something that is created for the intent to provoke conflict, shock others, or to elicit a strong negative or emotional reaction. It’s okay and very normal to disagree with others, and even to debate, but provoking conflict, baiting, inciting, mocking, etc. is never acceptable in the official The Elder Scrolls Online community. If you do not have something constructive or meaningful to add to a discussion, we strongly recommend you refrain from posting in that thread, and find another discussion to participate in instead. It is also not constructive or helpful to publicly call out others and accuse them of trolling, or call them a troll—please refrain from doing so. If you genuinely believe someone is trolling, please report the post or thread to the ESO Team, and leave it at that.

If there are any questions in regards to the rules, please take a few moments to review them here.

Thank you for your understanding,
-Greg-

Everest_Lionheart · July 2020

Dovakhan wrote: »

Everest_Lionheart wrote: »

Dovakhan wrote: »

"Even worst Diablo 3 like system which make your DPS useless if you don't have the current meta set, for example, my DPS with full weaving was capped at 38k with crafting gear as a stam NB, just got so called 5/5 lok and 5/5 relequen, boom, same rotation and I am doing 65k. aka from 0 to hero mechanics, no skill difference involved."

That actually gives me hope on my stamsorc. I'm stuck at 40k with no Trial gear whatsoever as well (not even Maelstrom's Bow).

Anyway, better gear gives you a big DPS boost. Surprise surprise :P

"Diablo 3 like leveling system, you literally do 20% more damage by going from 600 cp to 810 cp."

And what do you want/expect? It's merely 600-800 after all. In fact, 20% extra damage is a quite nice boost.

"If you do not have friends or struggle to find community, this game is as dead as a solo game, even when seeing tons of players next to you."

If you don't bother to socialize ON A MMO, then it's your problem. A big one, involving lack of logic at that.

If anything, I with it was easier to share story quests in order to do them together with someone else. Would be great for healers and tanks who doesn't want to spend half an hour killing every enemy without reespeccing.

And anyway, you can just go on your own questing, enjoying the stories of the game solo, and treating the game as if it was a SP without any issue (thou I recommend a DD for that). And that means the solo content is "dead"...how exactly? :P

"In order to find a proper guild, you need the said above gear."

If you go for ultra-competitive guilds, then it's your problem as well. Fortunately, not everybody has the need to be in one of those elitist ones (curiously, something you complain about as well), and there are plenty of guilds suited for all kind of tastes and skill caps.

"World content such as world bosses, that are near impossible to solo for no reason without a group or being high CP, so you have to wait forever for someone to help you kill it, luckily sometimes you see some shiny player coming and then 1 shotting it without even doing its mechanics from being super pumped."

Because they're NOT supposed to be done solo, as stated by the very description of them in the in-game map?

Seriously....

I’m got 3 DPS toons no trial gear, 1 with monster, one with maelstrom lightning staff. CP480 as of this post.

Magplar is the lowest of the bunch at 32K DPS but he’s got the staff. Running double lightning as well so I also know why the DPS is held back in addition to no monster set. He is mostly a solo build though wearing Julianos/MS not even gold except weapons and blue jewelry. It performs well in trials, feeds spear synergies to my tanks and can manage to stay upright 99% of the time because it’s a super easy class to play.

My Stamwarden pushes 36K. He’s got Hundings/Briarheart with the Kra’gh monster set. This is my main, generally a solo player as well. Holds his own in trials because of survivability. The kind of utility DPS that picks to people up off the floor, bashes to interrupt mechanics and runs across the room to deal with dangerous adds.

Finally my MagDK comes in at 42K. Also wearing Julianos/MS. No monster set, no maelstrom staff. Double inferno staff for better damage. Purple jewelry on this one and gold weapons. Much more squishy in trials even with a generic 2pc health set so I can’t run around and grab adds away from the group. I have to stay very disciplined with her and stick to the script. Parse, parse, parse, get out of stupid, rinse and repeat.

I rotate between the 3 often depending on what I’m farming or which trail we are doing. But the point is even without all the maxed CP and best sets builds can still be viable. As for the BiS gear I am always farming for it but have it the worst time getting the proper traits to drop. RNG is a cruel mistress. On a related note nobody ever needed 3 embershield gauntlets of the exact same trait on a CoA run ever. 5 runs of CoA yesterday and 2 BSW pieces in undesirable traits of course. RNG is playing with my emotions.

So, 40k is pretty normal for builds without godly gear? Nice to know ^^

I'm not in a real hurry to get Trial gear TBH. Too much of a pain to get. And I do just fine on Veteran dungeons, so...I'm not gonna kill myself for what counts for about 1% of the game (Trials) and ridiculous skins that I'm not gonna use.

I'm probably just gonna farm The Maelstrom's Bow and be done with it. I can do nMA No Deaths, so it's easy enough to get.

The trial gear isn’t necessarily hard to get, you just have to run them several times to get the gear in the desired traits or run tons of other content to get transmute stones. You’ll have a similar hang up for dungeon gear and monster masks. That’s the roadblock to the big numbers to be honest. So long as you have CP properly allocated and can managed a somewhat reasonable rotation you can get into decent trial/dungeon groups and work towards the hear that will push you above and beyond those 60-80K numbers.

We all have the ability to get there it just takes a little bit of time or some crazy luck with the RNG!

volkeswagon · July 2020

I enjoy the game too. I play on the ps4 and if you read this forum you would think it's the worst game ever and you would wonder why someone would play a game for years if it was so bad. Avoid pvp in primetime and it's not too bad. I get more blue screens in Red Dead Online then I do on ESO. The monthly subscription is cheaper than Cable or Satellite which I canceled because of ESO so am now saving money each month. Housing and the outfit system is a great outlet for creativity. Farming mats and fishing can be peaceful and relaxing. I love running up to randoms and spamming various emotes and interacting with people. It's a great social outlet. I take the more peaceful approach to the game so I avoid pvp and vet content to keep my blood pressure down.

Everest_Lionheart · July 2020

volkeswagon wrote: »

I enjoy the game too. I play on the ps4 and if you read this forum you would think it's the worst game ever and you would wonder why someone would play a game for years if it was so bad. Avoid pvp in primetime and it's not too bad. I get more blue screens in Red Dead Online then I do on ESO. The monthly subscription is cheaper than Cable or Satellite which I canceled because of ESO so am now saving money each month. Housing and the outfit system is a great outlet for creativity. Farming mats and fishing can be peaceful and relaxing. I love running up to randoms and spamming various emotes and interacting with people. It's a great social outlet. I take the more peaceful approach to the game so I avoid pvp and vet content to keep my blood pressure down.

After farming and farming and farming for days I spent a big chunk of tonight working out some kinks in my build with a guild mate. Swapped some skills around, learned a while new rotation to equal the same DPS I was already hitting but solved my sustain issues.

Now because I have a couple skills to max out to optimize the build I decided to go world boss hunting after all that. It was fun dropping into zones reading the zone chat and showing up to crush a few bosses and move on. It felt good to do something other than farming gear for once.

And that is one of the best things about this game. There is always something else to do. It keeps it from being too monotonous.

shaielzafine · July 2020

All the people I tried to get into ESO have gone back to FF14 and I'm just playing that with them. There's no point to hardcore or raiding pve / pvp on eso. The devs show they do not care about you farming items or upgrading nice things by nerfing everything constantly. Even giving away vma items on normal just because, no changes to the vet grind. They haven't even delivered on the long awaited "performance improvements" or on a working, bug free group finder. Everything while overland questing is too easy for solo players and dies to light attacks.

amm7sb14_ESO · July 2020

I have a love / hate relationship with ESO.

There are many things I love about the game, many things I absolutely hate about the game. I enjoy it enough that I've been playing it on a virtually daily basis since I came back in December, I hate it enough that it is often a far greater source of stress and frustration than a game should be.

In all, the good outweighs the bad, but the bad can get pretty heavy at times.

Anentet · July 2020

I actually just came back myself after some time away, I only got a chance to play when ESO first launched for a little bit, then once more for a few weeks down the line. I am enjoying the return to it very much. I'm not the biggest fan of their crates, but at least with membership they do give you crowns, DLC access, and other perks which is awesome. It's very immersive and the community seems helpful so far.

Galwylin · July 2020

volkeswagon wrote: »

I enjoy the game too. I play on the ps4 and if you read this forum you would think it's the worst game ever and you would wonder why someone would play a game for years if it was so bad.

I think you should look at from this angle, people are so passionate about this game but grow frustrated when it doesn't, in some cases refuses, to live up to its potential. For example, no one argues about the look of the game or really even lore that much. Those things they are doing well for the most part. But when you as a developer put yourself in between the players and what they enjoy its just asking for trouble. This constant tinkering just isn't sustainable. I feel its eating time away from things like actually making chapters complete and full.

They add a new class, we all get our classes adjusted. They add new items every other item has to be gone over. We're in constant balance adjustments because the previous adjustment made a change that rippled out. And all that work is being done while the servers themselves are on fire and collapsing around us. I feel this would all be solved if we progressed. I know that invites being overpowered in old zones to others but that's just how it happens. The whole world isn't the playground we're using which is why chapters should be full and complete so any new players coming in get everything necessary to bring everyone to the same level. By keeping everything "current" anything new has that sameness of everything that's come in the past. And new players complete a chapter without having any of their soul magic developed.

Their time is a finite resource that can't keep trying to make Glenumbra as good an experience as Greymoor. Or least it shouldn't. What we got was a Greymoor that isn't any better than Glenumbra which is a real problem. And it certainly didn't feel as well developed with its wholesale sparseness.

Hans_58 · August 2020

Delgent wrote: »

Taloros wrote: »

- The circle of buffing and nerfing is tedious to follow. You have to constantly change your characters as one ability, equipment piece or class or the other got destroyed or buffed to high heavens. There's no visible direction, just change for change's sake, which makes updating your characters just busy-work.

This is what is sapping the enjoyment out of the game for me. I work full time, have a house to maintain, and family responsibilities. I enjoy trying to push the envelope in what I can achieve in ESO, which requires that I put together effective armor sets and learn proper rotations. I generally don't run the "latest and greatest", but rather solid sets that allow me to compete and complete.

Lately, it seems when I'm finally able to gold out an armor set and put in the practice to be able to properly use my skills, the Devs come along and negate the work I put in to getting better. Changing the "Git G'ud" target every few months is disappointing and tiring. It's the very thing that caused me to leave WoW after 10 years, and what has me considering my options after 5 years here. I expect the impact this next patch has on whether I have to start grinding out more armor sets and upgrade materials, will determine whether or not it's time to pack up and see what the world has to offer...maybe go back and see some old friends, if nothing else, it'd be cheaper.

I want to continue to love ESO, but change for change's sake is getting old. Or worse yet, changes to items you newly introduce to get people to purchase your new content, to then almost immediately nerf, tells me either your pre-release testing and tweaking is trash; or your business ethics are really starting to show, in a way I want no part of.

They just nerfed the whole lot again I am a sorc and like using shards because its a mass destruction weapon with great damage now they have tied it to the weapon and it only affect one enemy and instead of boom boom continuous its goes pss pss once and is weak like pissing against the wind at your enemy

Rungar · August 2020

95% of eso is really good. Many casual players can play for a long time before they run into the some of the cracks and crevices all caused by the combat system that tries to do more than its capable of. People then complain about performance that was never truely real or even possible. All mmos have problems and always have. Most of ESO's problems will diminish when they realize they simply cannot continue to support the current combat model.

I actually like Greymoor better than some of the other expansions. Better than Morrowwind and Elsywhere for sure. Not sure why it has such low reviews on steam.

Athan1 · August 2020

One positive thread about the game and then it quickly got flooded with more rants and criticism

I agree with OP and this game is at a better spot than it used to. I like playing.

gepe87 · August 2020

Play. But do not spend more money. Wait for free week eso live to do some dlc zone quests.