It's only 2 percent nerf to Shadow so it shouldn't be too bad but problems with Vamp and bfb Atronach might get more uses idk tho Thief seems to be a good choice.

The shadow is still a good option if you use it, and the addition of crit healing is also nice. In full divines gear, I've noticed my base crit damage is slightly boosted compared to before the patch.

Atronach and serpent seem to be the winners this patch.
I guess in the end it is all role dependend.
A healer will really benefit from Atro now. Where they were pulling 2500 recovery. That would be over 3000 now.
As a DD there is no way around the shadow. Even with nerf it still outperformes the thief, above a crit chance of roughly 50%.
And with the new divines trait you can even spare yourself some cp in the crit node, when your group has minor and major force.
Tanks get a beating this patch (pardon the pun). But Lord and Lady still are best in slot.

The Steed is still king if you prioritize quality of life over maximum performance.

Why does Lover still show as 4434 spell and physical penetration in my character sheet?

Edit:NVM divine of course

NeillMcAttack wrote: »

Th3asiangod did a very detailed number crunch, which also comes with good explanations as to the reasoning here. https://youtu.be/-3frYYXcvtU

But for those that may not have the time. The conclusion he came to is basically, in a set-up with less than 53.8% crit, run thief, and anything above that number, run shadow.

Except NB and Templar. That point is more like 60%.

Banana wrote: »

I still prefer lover for solo

Yah, for solo play the Thief/Shadow question only becomes relevant when you start reaching higher than 50% crit rate or 60%+ crit damage rating, and even then Lover is still pretty good, since it is consistent damage without RNG. I think lover with all gold divines will net you around 10% increase in overall damage.

But if you want the absolute best damage and you are walking around with a natural 50%+ crit rate/60%crit damage rate, you may want to break out the calculator and see if Thief or Shadow will get you a few more % damage.

Also for any "on crit damage" proc sets.

Zodiarkslayer wrote: »

Atronach and serpent seem to be the winners this patch.
I guess in the end it is all role dependend.
A healer will really benefit from Atro now. Where they were pulling 2500 recovery. That would be over 3000 now.
As a DD there is no way around the shadow. Even with nerf it still outperformes the thief, above a crit chance of roughly 50%.
And with the new divines trait you can even spare yourself some cp in the crit node, when your group has minor and major force.
Tanks get a beating this patch (pardon the pun). But Lord and Lady still are best in slot.

that is a funny way to spell Steed, which is far more useful to a tank then more health or armor.

Atronach and serpent are both bugged right now. They give you zero regen unless you are in combat. If you can find a way to get your Regen from food, you're better off going that route IMO.