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thalosdaedra
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Edited by thalosdaedra on September 3, 2020 7:10AM [Edited to remove Baiting]
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Narvuntien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Questing and exploring is a big part of this game and why a lot of people play it. I have no interest in grinding and I don't know why some people do it, the game doesn't even encourage it that much, MMO mindset perhaps.
I guess mages and psijic quests are the most grindy. But I typically have way way more skyshards than I even need to use. Oh no my horse is slow, why are people in such a hurry?12 -
Blackout341Soul ShrivenLore is great, everything is voiceover and the gameplay is good (beside the pvp lag). ESO is also great since you aren't forced to pay a sub to play.
WoW is getting old and FFs are grindy AF, and subs...
There is GW2.. but i guess it depends on your tastes.
I find ESO pretty refreshing coming from WoW.4 -
Cadbury✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭@OP Not sure how the "paying attention to others" relates to the rest of your post. Care to elaborate?
This. I get the fact that OP doesn't like some aspects of ESO, but why should ESO players "pay attention" or care about other MMO players?
Unless OP is asking "Why isn't ESO like *insert another game franchise*?" In that case... XD"If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad."4 -
SeaGtGruff✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I just assumed the OP was referring to people asking for help, looking for groups, etc., and not getting any responses. I'm not sure what that has to do with the other parts of the post, unless it's that new characters have a harder time with certain content or leveling up because few players seem interested in helping them.I've fought mudcrabs more fearsome than me!3 -
Yuffie91✭✭✭✭✭Blackout341 wrote: »Lore is great, everything is voiceover and the gameplay is good (beside the pvp lag). ESO is also great since you aren't forced to pay a sub to play.
WoW is getting old and FFs are grindy AF, and subs...
There is GW2.. but i guess it depends on your tastes.
I find ESO pretty refreshing coming from WoW.
You can pay for sub with gold in wow. Also the expansions lasts you 2 years. Elseweyr which costs the same as a wow expansion lasted 2 hours for me to complete the quests. Then you basically have to sub or buy all the dlc if you want to continue the story so in a way it's more expensive.0 -
relentless_turnip✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I don't understand the point you are trying to make. From your title, to the thread itself the overwhelming impression is you are not enjoying playing ESO. Which will just lead to everyone commenting: "play something else", "don't play" etc...
It isn't going to create any sort of meaningful dialogue when you have simply created a list of things you don't like about this game.
If I'm being honest it sounds like these are early impressions, as once you have leveled one character the entire process of levelling another is extremely fast.0 -
redlink1979✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Why don't you play to enjoy the game? It seems to me that the relentless grinding is killing it for you.
No one needs to reach 810cp and/or max all the skills in a month or less imo..."Sweet Mother, sweet Mother, send your child unto me, for the sins of the unworthy must be baptized in blood and fear"- Sons of the Night Mother | VforVendetta | Grownups Gaming EU | English Elders [PS][EU] 2500 CP
- Daggerfall's Mightiest | Eternal Champions | Legacy | Tamriel Melting Pot [PS][NA] 2300 CP
- SweetTrolls | Spring Rose | Daggerfall Royal Legion | Tinnitus Delux [PC][EU] 2525 CP
- Bacon Rats | Silverlight Brotherhood | Canis Root Tea Party | Vincula Doloris [PC][NA] 2300 CP
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭If you want people to pay attention to you...
Join a guild
Ask for group in zone chat
Join groups forming in zone chat
Use Groupfinder
Roleplay in the town square
Its an MMORPG, not a playground where your teacher is encouraging kids to play together. If you want people to pay attention to you, you have to get out there and do things with others.2 -
robwolf666✭✭✭✭✭
✭thalosdaedra wrote: »[snip]
Honestly? I don't pay much attention to other players because I come from a history of playing Oblivion and Skyrim, and to me, Elder Scrolls is, and always will be, a single player game. So I love grinding the quests to level up my multiple characters. Every time I play I find something new, or play something a different way than before. I experiment with my builds and skill combinations to keep it interesting.
I will join in with people in group dungeons if I feel like it, which is rare. But, I never touch PvP, simply because I don't like it.
Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on August 23, 2020 3:18PM5 -
redgreensunset✭✭✭✭✭
✭Blackout341 wrote: »Lore is great, everything is voiceover and the gameplay is good (beside the pvp lag). ESO is also great since you aren't forced to pay a sub to play.
WoW is getting old and FFs are grindy AF, and subs...
There is GW2.. but i guess it depends on your tastes.
I find ESO pretty refreshing coming from WoW.
You can pay for sub with gold in wow. Also the expansions lasts you 2 years. Elseweyr which costs the same as a wow expansion lasted 2 hours for me to complete the quests. Then you basically have to sub or buy all the dlc if you want to continue the story so in a way it's more expensive.
WoW lasts for two years because it's an ungodly grind to get anywhere. Leveling process is beyond monotonous, like people who think ESO is bad to get to endgame should try playing WoW for a little while. Tried it when Greymoor came out because performance was that bad here, got stuck around 40 on two characters because the leveling experience is that bad and exhausting. And you can't stay in a favorite area, you are forced to go through a very narrow leveling path through areas. Yeah you can stay longer than you used to but the fact remains that you'll have outlevelled the area long before you're done with the story. And it's way too long. Also getting help in WoW is... Well I guess it might be server dependent but no one is going to pay much attention to you in my experience, apart from spamming you with guild invites.2 -
SamuelDraconis✭✭✭Runescape skilling is the ultimate grind of a lifetime...
Edit. Try getting the trimmed completitionist cape...Edited by SamuelDraconis on August 23, 2020 2:53PM"Let me guess, someone stole your sweetroll."1 -
Kiralyn2000✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Eso MMO players mostly apathy robots
At least in long-running ones. I've seen the same complaints (pugs are terrible, no-one talks in dungeon runs, etc) in every non-new MMO I've played.1 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Why do you even play ESO then, if you dislike it so much?
That was my first thought as well.
However, OP is incorrect on two points. First, every class has some uniqueness. Even though every build uses some of the same skills there are some skills used that are restricted to the class. I enjoy that ESO does not restrict each class to use only class skills like most major MMORPGs.
The second point is that one does not need to grind mages guild and much of what OP said we need to re-grind when starting a new character. We can now purchase almost everything that has been unlocked on another character. If one chooses to not purchase those unlocks then grind away but that is a choice.1 -
Jeremy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭thalosdaedra wrote: »[snip]
I just don't want to play this game for my roughly fifth time, spending countless hours chopping / grinding fighters guild, mages guild, horse trainer, sky shard / skill point hunt.
Character creation is good, but what always pisses me off when creating a new character is the fact that there are roughly 1-2 unique hairstyles per race, and most of those hairstyles are just plain ugly or just don't fit.
Creating a new class is good, but what always bugs me when creating a new class is the fact that there are class abilities for 5 buttons, and there is really no class uniqueness, stamina or not, everyone runs with a limited template in different variations.
I hate the thought of having to do it all again, spending countless hours on grind quests, grind monotonous mobs, guild fighters, mages guild, horse trainer, skyshard / skill point hunting, especially horse training. either pay the trainer six months every 20 hours, or spend more real money on a lesson in which I have already played on five different characters.I know ZOS don't care, so I get apathetic myself.
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I disagree with you somewhat about the different classes not being unique. Though to be fair i should point out I haven't tried them all out. But the few I have they seemed pretty unique in their own ways. For example: the Nightblade plays a lot differently than say my Templar does. Not to mention a single character on this game has more customization and versatility than all the other classes combined on most of these other MMOPRGs coming out.
But as to the rest of your post, consider me firmly in your corner. All those "grinds" such as the fighter and mage's (I would add the Thieves, Dark Brotherhood and Psijic's to the list as well) along with the sky shards, horse training... and honestly just all the quests generally are a real chore to repeat over and over for the sake of trying out a new class or building a new character. I didn't mind doing them the first time. In fact: I even enjoyed most of it. But I'm not about to repeat all of that every time a new class comes out. Even if I wanted to (which I don't) I doubt I would have neither the time or the energy for it. It's just way too much work and it's unreasonable to expect the average player to do this.
They really just need to streamline the process. If they don't want us to be able to switch classes - then they should at least make a lot more than what they currently do account wide. But as I'm sure many other posters are going to point out, they likely won't do this because they make a lot of money selling shortcuts on their crown store. And while that's undoubtedly true, that's still not a justification in my mind.Edited by Jeremy on August 23, 2020 4:27PM0 -
UGotBenched91✭✭✭✭✭thalosdaedra wrote: »[snip]
I just don't want to play this game for my roughly fifth time, spending countless hours chopping / grinding fighters guild, mages guild, horse trainer, sky shard / skill point hunt.
Character creation is good, but what always pisses me off when creating a new character is the fact that there are roughly 1-2 unique hairstyles per race, and most of those hairstyles are just plain ugly or just don't fit.
Creating a new class is good, but what always bugs me when creating a new class is the fact that there are class abilities for 5 buttons, and there is really no class uniqueness, stamina or not, everyone runs with a limited template in different variations.
I hate the thought of having to do it all again, spending countless hours on grind quests, grind monotonous mobs, guild fighters, mages guild, horse trainer, skyshard / skill point hunting, especially horse training. either pay the trainer six months every 20 hours, or spend more real money on a lesson in which I have already played on five different characters.I know ZOS don't care, so I get apathetic myself.
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I agree with either lack of unique hairstyles and other factors for races. As well as I think the game should’ve offered unique skills for races. But, this is what I want and doesn’t fit ESO.
But, prepare because the forum doesn’t usually like when you suggest non ESO things be added to the game. Especially in the manner you did.0 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭UGotBenched91 wrote: »thalosdaedra wrote: »[snip]
I just don't want to play this game for my roughly fifth time, spending countless hours chopping / grinding fighters guild, mages guild, horse trainer, sky shard / skill point hunt.
Character creation is good, but what always pisses me off when creating a new character is the fact that there are roughly 1-2 unique hairstyles per race, and most of those hairstyles are just plain ugly or just don't fit.
Creating a new class is good, but what always bugs me when creating a new class is the fact that there are class abilities for 5 buttons, and there is really no class uniqueness, stamina or not, everyone runs with a limited template in different variations.
I hate the thought of having to do it all again, spending countless hours on grind quests, grind monotonous mobs, guild fighters, mages guild, horse trainer, skyshard / skill point hunting, especially horse training. either pay the trainer six months every 20 hours, or spend more real money on a lesson in which I have already played on five different characters.I know ZOS don't care, so I get apathetic myself.
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But, prepare because the forum doesn’t usually like when you suggest non ESO things be added to the game. Especially in the manner you did.
OP is not suggesting anything, just complaining about things and some of the things such as the skill points, fighters guild line, and mage guild line can be purchased in the crown store for those who do not like the grind.
I just wondered why OP is playing the game because they clearly do not like it. Heck, they have quit the game four times already.3 -
coletas✭✭✭✭thalosdaedra wrote: »[snip]
I just don't want to play this game for my roughly fifth time, spending countless hours chopping / grinding fighters guild, mages guild, horse trainer, sky shard / skill point hunt.
Character creation is good, but what always pisses me off when creating a new character is the fact that there are roughly 1-2 unique hairstyles per race, and most of those hairstyles are just plain ugly or just don't fit.
Creating a new class is good, but what always bugs me when creating a new class is the fact that there are class abilities for 5 buttons, and there is really no class uniqueness, stamina or not, everyone runs with a limited template in different variations.
I hate the thought of having to do it all again, spending countless hours on grind quests, grind monotonous mobs, guild fighters, mages guild, horse trainer, skyshard / skill point hunting, especially horse training. either pay the trainer six months every 20 hours, or spend more real money on a lesson in which I have already played on five different characters.I know ZOS don't care, so I get apathetic myself.
[Edited to remove Baiting]
i totally agree. But you cant say that in public since a zerg or peaceful alone players that play a mmorpg (and would suffice with a rpg) would go to your neck lol making the game somewhat challengable would make somewhat better the boring (can i say stupid?) process of getting skyshards, doing the same boring quest again (i only have Magic and psijic in one toon lol) but... there is people buying skyshards and there is people that would tell you that the game is fine and fun that way.
I think i wont return until all zones are PvP and friendly fire lol1 -
Daemons_Bane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Blackout341 wrote: »Lore is great, everything is voiceover and the gameplay is good (beside the pvp lag). ESO is also great since you aren't forced to pay a sub to play.
WoW is getting old and FFs are grindy AF, and subs...
There is GW2.. but i guess it depends on your tastes.
I find ESO pretty refreshing coming from WoW.
You can pay for sub with gold in wow. Also the expansions lasts you 2 years. Elseweyr which costs the same as a wow expansion lasted 2 hours for me to complete the quests. Then you basically have to sub or buy all the dlc if you want to continue the story so in a way it's more expensive.
What WoW expansion lasted you 2 years0 -
Yuffie91✭✭✭✭✭Daemons_Bane wrote: »Blackout341 wrote: »Lore is great, everything is voiceover and the gameplay is good (beside the pvp lag). ESO is also great since you aren't forced to pay a sub to play.
WoW is getting old and FFs are grindy AF, and subs...
There is GW2.. but i guess it depends on your tastes.
I find ESO pretty refreshing coming from WoW.
You can pay for sub with gold in wow. Also the expansions lasts you 2 years. Elseweyr which costs the same as a wow expansion lasted 2 hours for me to complete the quests. Then you basically have to sub or buy all the dlc if you want to continue the story so in a way it's more expensive.
What WoW expansion lasted you 2 years
Every wow expansion. You buy the expansion then they update and add content at regular times untill the next expansion comes out. Inbetween that you can just pay for your sub with ingame gold.0 -
Daemons_Bane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Me, and the 1000s of players that leave after a few months would disagree.. the expansions get boring real fast.. and to be fair, eso gives you new content between chapters too.. so I would not rate wow expansions that high2 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Daemons_Bane wrote: »Blackout341 wrote: »Lore is great, everything is voiceover and the gameplay is good (beside the pvp lag). ESO is also great since you aren't forced to pay a sub to play.
WoW is getting old and FFs are grindy AF, and subs...
There is GW2.. but i guess it depends on your tastes.
I find ESO pretty refreshing coming from WoW.
You can pay for sub with gold in wow. Also the expansions lasts you 2 years. Elseweyr which costs the same as a wow expansion lasted 2 hours for me to complete the quests. Then you basically have to sub or buy all the dlc if you want to continue the story so in a way it's more expensive.
What WoW expansion lasted you 2 years
Every wow expansion. You buy the expansion then they update and add content at regular times untill the next expansion comes out. Inbetween that you can just pay for your sub with ingame gold.
That does not mean a WoW expansion will keep you busy for two years which is exactly what it means to say a WoW expansion will last someone two years.Daemons_Bane wrote: »Me, and the 1000s of players that leave after a few months would disagree.. the expansions get boring real fast.. and to be fair, eso gives you new content between chapters too.. so I would not rate wow expansions that high
And this explains it well. Look at the Steam charts for ESO and it shows a three-month dip in players after WoW released content last fall. They clearly came back to ESO after once again getting bored with WoW.Edited by idk on August 23, 2020 6:14PM1 -
Yuffie91✭✭✭✭✭Daemons_Bane wrote: »Blackout341 wrote: »Lore is great, everything is voiceover and the gameplay is good (beside the pvp lag). ESO is also great since you aren't forced to pay a sub to play.
WoW is getting old and FFs are grindy AF, and subs...
There is GW2.. but i guess it depends on your tastes.
I find ESO pretty refreshing coming from WoW.
You can pay for sub with gold in wow. Also the expansions lasts you 2 years. Elseweyr which costs the same as a wow expansion lasted 2 hours for me to complete the quests. Then you basically have to sub or buy all the dlc if you want to continue the story so in a way it's more expensive.
What WoW expansion lasted you 2 years
Every wow expansion. You buy the expansion then they update and add content at regular times untill the next expansion comes out. Inbetween that you can just pay for your sub with ingame gold.
That does not mean a WoW expansion will keep you busy for two years which is exactly what it means to say a WoW expansion will last someone two years.Daemons_Bane wrote: »Me, and the 1000s of players that leave after a few months would disagree.. the expansions get boring real fast.. and to be fair, eso gives you new content between chapters too.. so I would not rate wow expansions that high
And this explains it well. Look at the Steam charts for ESO and it shows a three-month dip in players after WoW released content last fall. They clearly came back to ESO after once again getting bored with WoW.
Wow has progress though. Every expansion you get new skills levels and gear. Eso has been at cp 810 for ages and I have been using the same rotation on my warden for years. The is more end content in wow then eso. And then there is battle pets, mog sets, mythic + and leveling your pvp level to keep you busy1 -
alanmatillab16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Well if we are robots then you should understand this:
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Daemons_Bane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Daemons_Bane wrote: »Blackout341 wrote: »Lore is great, everything is voiceover and the gameplay is good (beside the pvp lag). ESO is also great since you aren't forced to pay a sub to play.
WoW is getting old and FFs are grindy AF, and subs...
There is GW2.. but i guess it depends on your tastes.
I find ESO pretty refreshing coming from WoW.
You can pay for sub with gold in wow. Also the expansions lasts you 2 years. Elseweyr which costs the same as a wow expansion lasted 2 hours for me to complete the quests. Then you basically have to sub or buy all the dlc if you want to continue the story so in a way it's more expensive.
What WoW expansion lasted you 2 years
Every wow expansion. You buy the expansion then they update and add content at regular times untill the next expansion comes out. Inbetween that you can just pay for your sub with ingame gold.
That does not mean a WoW expansion will keep you busy for two years which is exactly what it means to say a WoW expansion will last someone two years.Daemons_Bane wrote: »Me, and the 1000s of players that leave after a few months would disagree.. the expansions get boring real fast.. and to be fair, eso gives you new content between chapters too.. so I would not rate wow expansions that high
And this explains it well. Look at the Steam charts for ESO and it shows a three-month dip in players after WoW released content last fall. They clearly came back to ESO after once again getting bored with WoW.
Wow has progress though. Every expansion you get new skills levels and gear. Eso has been at cp 810 for ages and I have been using the same rotation on my warden for years. The is more end content in wow then eso. And then there is battle pets, mog sets, mythic + and leveling your pvp level to keep you busy
We have the mog system too, we have the PvP levels.. the wannabe Pokemon system, we luckily don't have.. And I honestly disagree about wow having more content.. IF they do, it's only due to being older.. I get so much more out if a eso chapter, than I ever did from a wow expansion.. especially after Blizzard decided to add the grind farm to unlock flying, and basically split their expansions into 2 parts0
