Time to Revamp VDSA - 4 DPS Blows through it.

  • Nifty2g
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    While we're at it, time to revamp Hardmode VMOL. Ignore the fact we dropped all the survival, dropped an off tank and a healer to do so. But you know what buff Hardmode VMOL this is unacceptable
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjcdLBUc8MA
    Edited by Nifty2g on August 5, 2018 10:00PM
    #MOREORBS
  • nud3_voxel
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    Didn't you just prove that you do need a tank? You 4 DPS'd it and got a low score with heaps of deaths ? You probably also lost overall DPS by not having a tank... :thonk:
  • webrgesner
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    Just because you can burn through it with 4 dps dont mean they have to make it harder for everyone else and the low level noobs too
  • Mureel
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    While we're at it, time to revamp Hardmode VMOL. Ignore the fact we dropped all the survival, dropped an off tank and a healer to do so. But you know what buff Hardmode VMOL this is unacceptable
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjcdLBUc8MA

    Heya, this is nice and all except it doesn't matter because new to game people need something to progress through.

    VMOL isn't relevant for you anymore; and why should it be?

    Ya been here 4000 years.

    Let the new guys have their things.
  • lassitershawn
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    Mureel wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    While we're at it, time to revamp Hardmode VMOL. Ignore the fact we dropped all the survival, dropped an off tank and a healer to do so. But you know what buff Hardmode VMOL this is unacceptable
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjcdLBUc8MA

    Heya, this is nice and all except it doesn't matter because new to game people need something to progress through.

    VMOL isn't relevant for you anymore; and why should it be?

    Ya been here 4000 years.

    Let the new guys have their things.

    p sure he's being sarcastic
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  • Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo
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    I agree, give us a new 'instance' in the arena. It's an arena after all..challengers are defeated and new enemies appear.
    It would be a simple and effective addition to the four man content in game :)
  • Mureel
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    Mureel wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    While we're at it, time to revamp Hardmode VMOL. Ignore the fact we dropped all the survival, dropped an off tank and a healer to do so. But you know what buff Hardmode VMOL this is unacceptable
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjcdLBUc8MA

    Heya, this is nice and all except it doesn't matter because new to game people need something to progress through.

    VMOL isn't relevant for you anymore; and why should it be?

    Ya been here 4000 years.

    Let the new guys have their things.

    p sure he's being sarcastic

    probably but point remains. :)
  • Mefromnorway
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    Many of you forget there come allways new people, new people will loose interrest if dungons be to hard, eso will loose people if they make old content to hard. do as some other say do it with low lvl wepon and bad armor. remeber not evryone is monster players :)
    Have fun and dont be rude. Im Norwegian so im sorry for my spelling, but hope u understand.

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  • Sievertsv
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    i still need a masters bow a. the content is hard for new players and b. finding people willing to do it is ever worse.
  • Flaaklypa
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    Completely agree
  • casparian
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    This thread is about to get closed because of the forum’s poorly thought through policy on necroing threads, but I’ll take this chance to say:

    The fact that this was an issue two years ago and absolutely nothing has gotten better shows ZOS has completely lost the plot when it comes to the fundamentals of group PVE.
    Yes, this is old content and yes, their encounter design has gotten more polished in some respects. But the fact that any veteran group content is not just feasible but easy with 4 DPS suggests that something is deeply off with the way this game works.

    Gods rest ye, ancient thread, may your lessons be learned.
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  • ccfeeling
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    If you use liko as the eso benchmark, i think the dev need to increase the whole game difficulty, at least twice.

    And you also assume all eso players are in end game guild.
  • casparian
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    ccfeeling wrote: »
    If you use liko as the eso benchmark, i think the dev need to increase the whole game difficulty, at least twice.

    And you also assume all eso players are in end game guild.
    I’m speaking from my own experience as a mediocre PVE player, who has never been in an endgame guild or had the gear Liko uses.
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  • Cadbury
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    I'm probably in the minority on this, but I believe CPs bear a large amount of the blame here.
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