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✭✭✭ESO should have rules against griefing."Sweet Mother, sweet Mother, send your child unto me, for the sins of the unworthy must be baptized in blood and fear"- Sons of the Night Mother | VforVendetta | Grownups Gaming EU | English Elders [PS][EU] 2500 CP
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BisDasBlutGefriert✭✭✭✭✭I don't know what it is, but I've noticed a huge uptick in players purposefully causing trouble lately cause they know zos doesn't do anything about it. Or atleast won't for a week or more in extreme cases. Like these scroll trolls, or cheaters in other matches and in pve. It's sad to watch happen cause it pushes Soo many people out of PvP.
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✭✭✭✭✭Artorias24 wrote: »But alLiAnCe lOcK wILl pReVenT ThIs
Actually i saw more trolls with scrolls since alliance lock cause players are upset with alliance lock.
You do know that Blackreach is not locked; right?4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »Artorias24 wrote: »mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »Spies can be killed..... AS far as that is, they should be flagged KOS to everyone after a certain time.
How do you identify a spy?
Because the said spy, is in chat beaking off zone chat. And grabbing the scroll before anyone else can. Then hiding and holding it for an hour. Then eventually dropping it at the door of the other alliance?
OH RIGHT! Its a strategy pissing off a whole zone, and you can do nothing about it.. Except pay cash for any alliance? Level a toon... bitchslap the ***?
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Or maybe, they can let alliances deal with their own alliance?
How would that work? And how would you prevent it from being abused?
How would you prevent your own alliance from retrieving a scroll, when they refuse to drop it, and are hiding out in a keep?
You, or one of your group gets to it first. Designate a scroll runner and have them hang back just enough so they wont draw aggro from the temple guards. If theyre a nightblade even better, use cloak while group engages guards, then sprint to scroll. Use rapid maneuvers and other speed buffs. Its not impossible to get to it first.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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r3turn2s3nd3r✭✭✭✭✭mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »
How would you prevent your own alliance from retrieving a scroll, when they refuse to drop it, and are hiding out in a keep?
Log on to my second account that is in a different faction and kill them.2 -
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✭✭✭There should be a time limit on carrying a Scroll, evetually without being placed anywhere it'll poof back to where it was picked up, but yes those players are insanely annoying, but theyre not actually doing anything reportable.
I thought there was already. It's just way too long, like 2 hours.Main: Drio Azul ~ DC, Redguard, Healer/Magicka Templar ~ NA-PC
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✭driosketch wrote: »There should be a time limit on carrying a Scroll, evetually without being placed anywhere it'll poof back to where it was picked up, but yes those players are insanely annoying, but theyre not actually doing anything reportable.
I thought there was already. It's just way too long, like 2 hours.
It's 45 minutes afaik. Five minutes if it's droped and not picked up again. Seems fair for all sides by me.no CP PvP PC/EU
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Dojohoda✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Well ... it's not the first time someone with a scroll was up to shenanigans. Like it or not, it's allowed.
If it burns you up inside, get on an alt and go after the guy. He might not want to give it up though.
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Snowgoons✭✭✭✭Well ... it's not the first time someone with a scroll was up to shenanigans. Like it or not, it's allowed. If it burns you up inside, get on an alt and go after the guy. He might not want to give it up though.
That dog would see the end of my boot, and the player should be penalized for not playing the game.
Just because it's not currently illegal doesn't mean some common sense shouldn't be used.Rollin' round Tamriel on that skooma wasted like a failed Grand Theft Auto mission.0 -
Ackwalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Since ZOS won't take action on this, and it is harassment. All you can do, is not interact with them. Don't talk to them in chat, don't defend the keep they are at, don't try to follow them in the field hoping to pick it when they try to hand it off. And, DON'T make a post in the forums about them. Send a report to ZOS and then go to the other side of the map. The trolls love the attention they get in chat and forums, and will continue to do this as long as they are getting attention.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭driosketch wrote: »There should be a time limit on carrying a Scroll, evetually without being placed anywhere it'll poof back to where it was picked up, but yes those players are insanely annoying, but theyre not actually doing anything reportable.
I thought there was already. It's just way too long, like 2 hours.
You have 1 hour from the moment you pick the scroll up to secure it, or it will reset to the keep or temple you took it from.Edited by TequilaFire on August 7, 2020 9:19PM0 -
mattaeus01b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Artorias24 wrote: »mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »Artorias24 wrote: »mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »Artorias24 wrote: »mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »Spies can be killed..... AS far as that is, they should be flagged KOS to everyone after a certain time.
How do you identify a spy?
Because the said spy, is in chat beaking off zone chat. And grabbing the scroll before anyone else can. Then hiding and holding it for an hour. Then eventually dropping it at the door of the other alliance?
OH RIGHT! Its a strategy pissing off a whole zone, and you can do nothing about it.. Except pay cash for any alliance? Level a toon... bitchslap the ***?
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Or maybe, they can let alliances deal with their own alliance?
So If you have identified the Spy, you want to flag them for KOS also by their own alliance?
That would be highly exploitable cause bigger guilds for example could just flag someone for KOS who they dont like and Team kill them.
Same for trolls, normal player carries scroll, Mass flag him as Spy, kill him, take scroll and troll with it.
There will always be trolls, spies and whatever. Its a video game after all.
And since er dont have any Gamemasters you kinda have to deal with them.
No.. they hang onto the scroll for long enough, they get flagged... its that easy
I saw fights between two alliances going on for long time Open field. Two big groups fighting for the scroll. Imagine the scroll carrier getting flagged after some time and just instantly explodes to friendly fire. Stupid Idea.
Just STOP begging to ZOS to take care about spies and scroll trolls. Either grab the scroll first or deal with it.
Its NOT a stupid idea, its fricken brilliant. Then it sends all those peeps farming EXP, running for the scroll. And what, you think that there wouldnt be a visual timer?
Or are you in one of those ball groups, that picks up the scroll... Runs it into the middle of enemy territory. Takes over a small keep. And farms AP for an eternity. Because no one can break your groups heals and shielding, while you drop diaper babies and permafrost?Player 1 "You all suck, dont you know how to play this game?"
Player 2 "Huh?"
Player 1 "just run passed everything!"
Player 3 "We could just kill them on the way"
Player 4 "Why am I 89% of total DPS, one of the only ones that Qued as DPS, and yet in a group with 3 other DPS that cant seem to kill the basic mobs in a normal dungeon, and being told I suck?"
Player 1 "Whatever, GFL"
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mattaeus01b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »Artorias24 wrote: »mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »Spies can be killed..... AS far as that is, they should be flagged KOS to everyone after a certain time.
How do you identify a spy?
Because the said spy, is in chat beaking off zone chat. And grabbing the scroll before anyone else can. Then hiding and holding it for an hour. Then eventually dropping it at the door of the other alliance?
OH RIGHT! Its a strategy pissing off a whole zone, and you can do nothing about it.. Except pay cash for any alliance? Level a toon... bitchslap the ***?
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Or maybe, they can let alliances deal with their own alliance?
How would that work? And how would you prevent it from being abused?
How would you prevent your own alliance from retrieving a scroll, when they refuse to drop it, and are hiding out in a keep?
You, or one of your group gets to it first. Designate a scroll runner and have them hang back just enough so they wont draw aggro from the temple guards. If theyre a nightblade even better, use cloak while group engages guards, then sprint to scroll. Use rapid maneuvers and other speed buffs. Its not impossible to get to it first.
Again, we had a runner set up at the gate read to grab it BECAUSE this troll was doing it all night to EP. But they clicked on it a sec before we did. GOT the scroll. And pissed off with it into the void. And then held it for well over an hour while they ran around.Player 1 "You all suck, dont you know how to play this game?"
Player 2 "Huh?"
Player 1 "just run passed everything!"
Player 3 "We could just kill them on the way"
Player 4 "Why am I 89% of total DPS, one of the only ones that Qued as DPS, and yet in a group with 3 other DPS that cant seem to kill the basic mobs in a normal dungeon, and being told I suck?"
Player 1 "Whatever, GFL"
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mattaeus01b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭And some people seem to not being able to distinguish the differences between a SPY and someone that's abusing the rules to there own end, with no positive outcome for anyone (except the Troll), and we call them Sociopaths.Player 1 "You all suck, dont you know how to play this game?"
Player 2 "Huh?"
Player 1 "just run passed everything!"
Player 3 "We could just kill them on the way"
Player 4 "Why am I 89% of total DPS, one of the only ones that Qued as DPS, and yet in a group with 3 other DPS that cant seem to kill the basic mobs in a normal dungeon, and being told I suck?"
Player 1 "Whatever, GFL"
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✭mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »Tonight in BLACKREACH, we had a troll... A DC loving Troll, on a EP toon that; while I was on in the 3 hours I was there. Jumped on the scroll before our raid could get there. And would run it around in circles. OVER AND OVER AGAIN. Hide in keeps, run scrolls back to DC side... Or just stand AFK for 5 - 10 mins at a time. At the moment, they are Hanging outside BRK with the scroll, and refuse to run it... They have been reported dozens of times tonight alone.
And yet...
Here we are...
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✭✭✭✭✭Players spice it up by farming scrolls, breaks up the boring PvDoor and cause skirmishes away from the emp ring a lot of the time. Getting on another alliance to hand over that alliance's scroll to you buds isn't too cool though.0 -
mattaeus01b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭TequilaFire wrote: »Players spice it up by farming scrolls, breaks up the boring PvDoor and cause skirmishes away from the emp ring a lot of the time. Getting on another alliance to hand over that alliance's scroll to you buds isn't too cool though.
In the end, they went AFK on the drop pad in BRK for 30-40 mins? Before they logged out and the scroll respawned in AD territory.Player 1 "You all suck, dont you know how to play this game?"
Player 2 "Huh?"
Player 1 "just run passed everything!"
Player 3 "We could just kill them on the way"
Player 4 "Why am I 89% of total DPS, one of the only ones that Qued as DPS, and yet in a group with 3 other DPS that cant seem to kill the basic mobs in a normal dungeon, and being told I suck?"
Player 1 "Whatever, GFL"
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pauld1_ESO✭✭✭✭Should've taken the scroll faster, it's really that simple. Whoever picks it up is free to do whatever they like with it. You want it, you better pick it up.
That's ABSURD. You are enabling this kind of behavior with replies like this, period. It should not be allowed, and it is not by design.2 -
pauld1_ESO✭✭✭✭mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »[Quoted post was removed]
Report for what actually? For playing the game not to your liking?
This is not a sandbox game in Cyrodiil. This is someone abusing a mechanic in a way that was not intended. This is not part of the game in any way, shape, or form.1 -
Daviiid_ESO✭✭✭pauld1_ESO wrote: »mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »[Quoted post was removed]
Report for what actually? For playing the game not to your liking?
This is not a sandbox game in Cyrodiil. This is someone abusing a mechanic in a way that was not intended. This is not part of the game in any way, shape, or form.
While you were standing at the gate complaining for 30 minutes about someone running the scroll you probably could've capped 5-6 keeps, it's tactics!Edited by Daviiid_ESO on August 8, 2020 3:31AM5 -
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✭I heard in the early days - on console anyway - that trolls used to take a scroll and jump into slaughterfish-infused water, and the scroll wouldn't reset, it would have to be retrieved by a dev.
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✭✭Well here is one possible way of dealing with it, switch to the same faction the spy/troll is working for. I mean if Dc isn't dealing with him personally and allowing him to run about like this then that is where you get onto your alt to take care of your own faction member. Just switch to an alternate to deal with the spy.Edited by Thevampirenight on August 8, 2020 12:25PMPC NA
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✭pauld1_ESO wrote: »mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »[Quoted post was removed]
Report for what actually? For playing the game not to your liking?
This is not a sandbox game in Cyrodiil. This is someone abusing a mechanic in a way that was not intended. This is not part of the game in any way, shape, or form.
Anyone can take the scroll and do whatever they like. It is a part of the game, there's nothing that states otherwise so it doesn't break any rules. It's a personal choice to be an a-hole or not, but it's hardly worth a report.2 -
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✭✭✭✭pauld1_ESO wrote: »mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »[Quoted post was removed]
Report for what actually? For playing the game not to your liking?
This is not a sandbox game in Cyrodiil. This is someone abusing a mechanic in a way that was not intended. This is not part of the game in any way, shape, or form.
Anyone can take the scroll and do whatever they like. It is a part of the game, there's nothing that states otherwise so it doesn't break any rules. It's a personal choice to be an a-hole or not, but it's hardly worth a report.
It is a god given right
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mattaeus01b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Daviiid_ESO wrote: »pauld1_ESO wrote: »mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »[Quoted post was removed]
Report for what actually? For playing the game not to your liking?
This is not a sandbox game in Cyrodiil. This is someone abusing a mechanic in a way that was not intended. This is not part of the game in any way, shape, or form.
While you were standing at the gate complaining for 30 minutes about someone running the scroll you probably could've capped 5-6 keeps, it's tactics!
Someone assuming we are all mannequins, and can only do 1 thing at a time?Edited by mattaeus01b16_ESO on August 8, 2020 11:03PMPlayer 1 "You all suck, dont you know how to play this game?"
Player 2 "Huh?"
Player 1 "just run passed everything!"
Player 3 "We could just kill them on the way"
Player 4 "Why am I 89% of total DPS, one of the only ones that Qued as DPS, and yet in a group with 3 other DPS that cant seem to kill the basic mobs in a normal dungeon, and being told I suck?"
Player 1 "Whatever, GFL"
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Thoragaal✭✭✭✭✭mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »Tonight in BLACKREACH, we had a troll... A DC loving Troll, on a EP toon that; while I was on in the 3 hours I was there. Jumped on the scroll before our raid could get there. And would run it around in circles. OVER AND OVER AGAIN. Hide in keeps, run scrolls back to DC side... Or just stand AFK for 5 - 10 mins at a time. At the moment, they are Hanging outside BRK with the scroll, and refuse to run it... They have been reported dozens of times tonight alone.
And yet...
Here we are...
Unfortunately this type of behavior has been going on for years without anything being done about it.
Altough I hope ZOS eventually do something about it. Because it's been abused like mad.
Unfortunately, the best take on it is to "simply not care about the objective" for your own sanity.
That is ABSOLUTELY messed. So basically everyone in Cry-o-dill, just sits back and takes it? Iv seen a lot of stupid [snip] in there. But really. Everyone has just become complacent with it?
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More or less, yeah.
It's messed up, I agree, but it's either that the players are getting frustrated and angry because ZOS doesn't do anything about it (the topic has been raised over and over again on this forum), or that the players stop caring about said objectives.The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
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