What counts for Z'en's Redress' tally of DoTs?

FrancisCrawford · August 2020

It is well known that:

Single-target DoTs count for Z'en's Redress.
Ground-based AoE DoTs do not.

But what about the other possibilities?

Do multitarget or AoE DoTs such as Reflective Light or Engulfing Flames count? (I'd guess yes.)
Do status effects that tick over time, such as Burning or Poisoned, count? (I'm pretty sure yes, but which ones do that?)
Is this one of the rare cases where a set proc can proc another set? (I'd guess no.)

Noldornir · August 2020

Any DoT that is placed on an enemy will work.

When I say "placed on an enemy" I mean not on the ground below him, the enemy must have DoT visible as if it were a debuff

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

[*] Do multitarget or AoE DoTs such as Reflective Light or Engulfing Flames count? (I'd guess yes.)

Yes as long as they leave a DoT on the enemy (as engulfing flame does; after being hit the enemy can move but the DoT will just follow him unlike, let's say, wall of elements which does not count)

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

[*] Do status effects that tick over time, such as Burning or Poisoned, count? (I'm pretty sure yes, but which ones do that?)

Yes again; the healers or magDK usually running this set aims to have 4 DoTs from their skills and use burning as 5th dot. Poison would also work.

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

[*] Is this one of the rare cases where a set proc can proc another set? (I'd guess no.)

That depends on what the other set does; if you talking about sets like VAS staff or BSW they both proc burning (so yes). Probably DoTs left by sets like Valkyn or Alkosh would also be counted (can't confirm tho) since they are placed on the enemy while some other like ilambris/ghrotdar would not since they are ground dependant (Note the burning eventually proccing from such sets hits would count tho)

Kolzki · August 2020

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

Do multitarget or AoE DoTs such as Reflective Light or Engulfing Flames count? (I'd guess yes.)

Yes

Do status effects that tick over time, such as Burning or Poisoned, count? (I'm pretty sure yes, but which ones do that?)

Yes

Is this one of the rare cases where a set proc can proc another set? (I'd guess no.)

I think also yes. I'm pretty sure that zaan works. Technically, the set procs from light attacks and not from the dot, which just scales the debuff, so I guess we can argue that it doesn't break the rule.

In general, if you can see a dot effect that sticks to the target in the ui or in the debuff pannel of combat metrics then it counts for z'en.

FrancisCrawford · August 2020

Thanks!

Anyhow, Alcast claims that Chilled and Concussed leave "very small" DoTs. https://alcasthq.com/eso-status-effects/
UESP says otherwise. https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Chilled

Which is correct?

zvavi · August 2020

Chilled & concussed are not a dot, they are direct damage followed by 4 second debuff of maim/vulnerability

Noldornir · August 2020

zvavi wrote: »

Chilled & concussed are not a dot, they are direct damage followed by 4 second debuff of maim/vulnerability

This is correct AFAIK @FrancisCrawford

Never seen such DoTs;

Chilled Comes with Minor Maim Debuff (not a DoT tho)
Concussed comes with Minor Vulnerability another debuff (still not a DoT), also can bring to Off-Balance

Only ones i've seen with DoTs are Fire and Poison

FrancisCrawford · August 2020

Thanks! Pinging @alcast, as it seems this is simply a matter of one of his pages needing an update.

Alcast · August 2020

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

Thanks! Pinging @alcast, as it seems this is simply a matter of one of his pages needing an update.

Thanks for the ping, update the page.