Best of.... Isn't!

daneyulebub17_ESO
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So, in the "Best of..." category, we get snarky trolls asking "When's the F2P announcement" coming". And tons of other childish, whiny, badly spelled, generally useless junk. There's some good stuff, too, but it's all seems completely random.

Am I the only one that wonders just what idiot they put in charge of choosing which comments to highlight? Or did they just give a monkey a dartboard?
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  • Tiyamel
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    Lol this made me laugh, don't worry the months free play expires soon and we should get a more constructive forum
    Edited by Tiyamel on April 16, 2014 6:50AM
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  • awkwarrd
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    I agree with you lol.

    But at the same time.. SWOTR.. had pretty much this exact kind of launch..
    Except they didn't lose everyone's banks.. or have people logging into other people's accounts.

    I hate seeing those threads, but i can't ignore what might happen once that 30 days free time is gone.

    We are all bound to pay for first subscription apparently, but what then..
    We don't know if the game will get better or worse.
    This patch made things worse for alot of people, even me, my patcher is all messed up with that error.
  • Mortelus
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    People want the best of life for free... Yesterday, if they can also... And delivered to their door, or better still their laps...
    Edited by Mortelus on April 16, 2014 7:04AM
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  • KerinKor
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    awkwarrd wrote: »
    But at the same time.. SWOTR.. had pretty much this exact kind of launch..
    And you raise SW:TOR, why?

    If you're predicting that ESO will go F2P because its launch was as bad as SW:TOR then you clearly don't understand why SW:TOR bombed: it was nothing at all to do with a terrible launch, bad as that was.

    Sure, some had hissy fits and went off like a 5-year-old in a huff but the adults stayed.

    However, what did for SW:TOR was that there was nothing to do once you hit 50 at all, it had no end-game content in the least and since it was so easy to get to 50 then lots of people ended up bored.

    It took Bioware literally months to come up with traditional end-game grinds to keep people happy.

    From 1 to 50 most players seemed happy, it delivered on the 'promise' that the lore lead people to expect and the group content was fine. PVP wasn't in a good place but that was fixed eventually.


    ESO MAY for F2P, if it does it will be for the same long-term reasons not short-term problems like we're suffering now. Some will 'leave' of course, but this place as all web forums is full of those screaming like children when things go wrong, those aren't the kind of players whose numbers support a game long-term.
  • mozark24b14_ESO
    Funny, I was thinking the same thing when I saw this pop up on the "Best of..." Whoever designed the forums really needs to revisit it because why would I want to see a german post side by side with an english one? Never seen a forum not be categorized by language from the top level down.
  • Inversus
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    if it is a monkey with a dartboard, it must be trained to hit the bad posts
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  • rawne1980b16_ESO
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    Tiyamel wrote: »
    Lol this made me laugh, don't worry the months free play expires soon and we should get a more constructive forum

    Said in every MMO forum ever.....

    And in every MMO forum nothing changes after the first month is up.

  • Azzuria
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    The next shiny object to come down the pike will draw attention of the cawing carion birds that circle anything new and different and challenges their preconceptions.

    In two months many of the screeches of 'F2P!' and 'Make it more like WoW 'cause I hate WoW slightly less than I hate change!!' will become muted or overwhelmed by more reasoned screeches and demands for reasonable things.
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  • trinta
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    awkwarrd wrote: »
    We are all bound to pay for first subscription apparently, but what then..
    No you aren't. Just go to your account page and cancel your subscription. You had to put in payment details, so they'll be able to bill you if you don't cancel first.

    awkwarrd wrote: »
    This patch made things worse for alot of people, even me, my patcher is all messed up with that error.
    If you keep closing the launcher and re-opening it, it should eventually say Play instead of Repair. I'm not saying this is okay or acceptable, but it does seem to work. Eventually.
    Every time someone swears, it gets replaced with three asterisks. There's only one three-letter swear word that I know of. I read that in the place of every set of three asterisks. It makes for some amusing sentences.
  • tdgeddesub17_ESO
    After the patch i cant play on me and my wife's computers and accounts. I put in for a refund for both accounts. You can pretend like this is a normal mmo launch, but you are just grasping for anything to cling to. I put in 8 hours of labor troubleshooting the launcher and I can't get in. Even redownloaded the game last night. Still jacked up.

    So yea, in a months time you will have a few people left pretending nothing is wrong. You can look forward to that all you want.
  • Anthony45122
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    trinta wrote: »
    awkwarrd wrote: »
    We are all bound to pay for first subscription apparently, but what then..
    No you aren't. Just go to your account page and cancel your subscription. You had to put in payment details, so they'll be able to bill you if you don't cancel first.
    Actually if you had read everything it states if you cancel your subscription within the first month they will be allowed to charge you for the next month anyways. So if you entered in your payment details (which you were required to do to play the game) you will be charged for this next month, one way or another. There are many threads explaining this in fuller detail.

  • daneyulebub17_ESO
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    After the patch i cant play on me and my wife's computers and accounts. I put in for a refund for both accounts. You can pretend like this is a normal mmo launch, but you are just grasping for anything to cling to. I put in 8 hours of labor troubleshooting the launcher and I can't get in. Even redownloaded the game last night. Still jacked up. ...

    I can honestly say I've never seen an MMO launch without reading about people who had issues. Bad issues. Issues that make them shake their fist and act like this is unprecedented in the history of the world.

    I'm sorry about your problems, and if I was having them I'd be mad too, but I've seen nothing abnormal here. Yes, as MMO launches go, it's absolutely par for the course. There's always some percentage of people who run into cataclysmic issues in roll outs and big updates. Always.

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  • daneyulebub17_ESO
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    Best of... would actually be great if it worked--soooo sick of wading through garbage posts, or posts I'm not interested in, for insightful information.
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  • Greydog
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    KerinKor wrote: »
    awkwarrd wrote: »
    But at the same time.. SWOTR.. had pretty much this exact kind of launch..
    And you raise SW:TOR, why?

    If you're predicting that ESO will go F2P because its launch was as bad as SW:TOR then you clearly don't understand why SW:TOR bombed: it was nothing at all to do with a terrible launch, bad as that was.

    Sure, some had hissy fits and went off like a 5-year-old in a huff but the adults stayed.

    However, what did for SW:TOR was that there was nothing to do once you hit 50 at all, it had no end-game content in the least and since it was so easy to get to 50 then lots of people ended up bored.

    It took Bioware literally months to come up with traditional end-game grinds to keep people happy.

    From 1 to 50 most players seemed happy, it delivered on the 'promise' that the lore lead people to expect and the group content was fine. PVP wasn't in a good place but that was fixed eventually.


    ESO MAY for F2P, if it does it will be for the same long-term reasons not short-term problems like we're suffering now. Some will 'leave' of course, but this place as all web forums is full of those screaming like children when things go wrong, those aren't the kind of players whose numbers support a game long-term.

    People left SWtOR for the same reason they left ST:O and will leave ESO.

    The dev's try so hard to cater to their lore loving fan base they forget about all the others who play for simple recreation.

    It's the "screaming children" as the intolerant call them, as well as the fanbois that pay the bills. You do the game no service by disregarding them.

    Like it or not, f2p is that evil boogey man lurking in the shadows.

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  • daneyulebub17_ESO
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    Not sure they've catered so much to the lore lovers. You can hear them crying all over the forums.

    They'll go F2P if, mid-course, their resolve weakens and they start dumbing down and easifying the game in a misguided attempt to keep whiners from quitting, thus ruining it for people that will pay to play a quality, challenging game for the long haul. It becomes a vicious cycle, the more of that crap they pull, the less quality players will hang on and they have to keep throwing candy at people to get them to come and spend some money for a month or two.
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  • Greydog
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    Another thing that pushes folks away is elitists who look down their noses at average recreational players ;)
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  • daneyulebub17_ESO
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    Greydog wrote: »
    Another thing that pushes folks away is elitists who look down their noses at average recreational players ;)

    And recreational players that dismiss hardcore players and RPers as nerds or fanbois. Why can't we all just get along. <hug>

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