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Do we need Craglorn?

TassenAruhn
I mean we still have bugs in first locations, and after Craglorn (with hundreds new bugs) they will never be finished.
  • steven_shidiwenb16_ESO
    Yep need craglorn. My entire guild is VR10 (this is 50+++ people)
  • Neo
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    No we do not need craglorn i dont understand why they plan to release it fix the game you just released before you go ahead and give us more content...
  • circilion
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    Pffft. I'm more upset they haven't released 3 new zones yet!!! Gosh get on it Zeni!!!!
    >:)
  • steven_shidiwenb16_ESO
    we need craglorn because there isn't any end game content you reach VR10 then do the VR dungeons (which are 4 man dungeons).

    there isn't anything large scale besides PVP craglorn should have been there AT RELEASE.
  • Anoteros
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    Yes we need more broken things to complain about.
  • Mizumi
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    Adding new content when the previous barely works is the way to go, top idea right up there with prime time maintenances and ghost charges to activate the free month
  • steven_shidiwenb16_ESO
    You do know ZeniMax is a huge game company with more than 1 team designated on different tasks right? the Craglorn team are different people to the ones working on your stupid Frog quest in Auridon or quests in Greenshade, how about you get to Veteran content where basically nothing is bugged instead of spending 400hours running around and treating it like an online facebook game standing at a bugged quest praying for it to work so it can give you 150gold and barely any exp?!?! Jesus...
  • Allchix
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    We need Craglorn so that we can have some real PVE endgame content and so that the devs can finally stop pretending that VR levels are a form of endgame content and lower the XP required to get from VR1-10.

    Dont get me wrong, I like doing the other factions, but lets be honest. That was just a way to gain some time, at least if it is the ONLY endgame content, togehter with some recycled dungeons.
    Edited by Allchix on April 21, 2014 4:22AM
  • CTraveler
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    So you'd rather ESO stay stagnant until all the bugs are ironed out, and lose all the players who have hit Max Level already and are eagerly awaiting more content to burn through?

    More content is a necessary evil when it comes to broken things. Besides that, they have multiple teams working on bug fixes vs. content updates. It's not like everyone jumps ship to work on the next big thing.
  • steven_shidiwenb16_ESO
    Craglorn is coming out regardless of posts like this. So, umadbro?

    they are fixing quests every single patch AND craglorn is coming.
  • Audigy
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    The question should better be, do we need a whole zone only for large groups - is it worth it, or will it be a waste of resources where only 5-10% of the player base will be able to go.

    Wow is running that type of content since many years, WOTLK to be precise. The only stuff they add are those large scale raids, the subs are bleeding heavily and without the Asian market, they might not even scratch 2 million now - down from 10 million at the end of TBC.

    I personally hope that ZO will do better and not only go for the large scale content. We still don't have a crime system and lack some important NPC guilds. It might also be wise to add housing soon, its an essential part of the ESO world.
  • Neo
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    You do know ZeniMax is a huge game company with more than 1 team designated on different tasks right? the Craglorn team are different people to the ones working on your stupid Frog quest in Auridon or quests in Greenshade, how about you get to Veteran content where basically nothing is bugged instead of spending 400hours running around and treating it like an online facebook game standing at a bugged quest praying for it to work so it can give you 150gold and barely any exp?!?! Jesus...

    Are you serious mate? I can't even progress to vet content because of the god of schemes bug. And your saying they should release Craglorn. Get a grip on reality.
  • Thunder_Downunder
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    Do we need Craglorn - Hell NO!
    Do we need a game that works - Hell YES!

    To those people that speed leveled to VR 10 and took time off work to do it, slow down and smell the roses.

    Personally, I'd never waste my leave just to speed level a game.
  • badmojo
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    Right, because the artists working on new content are probably taking time away from fixing the bugs in code. Or the voice actors, they're not allowed to record anything new until NPCs stop speaking german, cause that's their job... right?
    [DC/NA]
  • steven_shidiwenb16_ESO
    Are we getting Craglorn - Yes
    Will your posts about if we need Craglorn do anything - No
    Are you mad? - Yes
    Do i think any of the people in this post complaining will get to VR10 - No
    (its 4.1million exp from v9-v10, and i bet you struggle with VR1: 490k)

    And those people will most likely quit saying "Veteran rank leveling is too hard its stupid how much exp it takes!"

    so for future so i don't have to say it later. Bye :wink:
    Edited by steven_shidiwenb16_ESO on April 21, 2014 4:32AM
  • Anoteros
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    you do realise new content is already complete at launch right?
    Oh wait they're extensively testing it for bugs and game breaking flaws so that it's perfect for release much like ESO...oh wait -_-
  • Mizumi
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    CTraveler wrote: »
    So you'd rather ESO stay stagnant until all the bugs are ironed out, and lose all the players who have hit Max Level already and are eagerly awaiting more content to burn through?
    Obviously not, but theres priorities, and fixing what is broke should come first, specially when theres critical issues regarding connectivity or basic functionality over several game features that should work straight away post launch. New content also means new bugs that will need fixing, and thats only going to pile up.
  • Dubah
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    I took my sweet time leveling, already VR2, would love to have craglorn soon, but you guys gotta remember, the first 6 months of any MMO is rough, new people coming in people coming out, give the game some time to stabilise its character base and stabilise the actual game, its gonna take time and alot of work, especially from zos and its nothing another month of beta testing would have solved.

    So my vote for craglorn is yes i hope its soon!
  • steven_shidiwenb16_ESO
    There is no Vote, its happening.

    Just like how there won't ever be a Rollback even though people were crying for one.
  • masterdtox
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    Do we need Craglorn - Hell NO!
    Do we need a game that works - Hell YES!

    To those people that speed leveled to VR 10 and took time off work to do it, slow down and smell the roses.

    Personally, I'd never waste my leave just to speed level a game.

    Dear MMO/ESO player you do realize that this is an MMO right? you do realize that there will be a ton of 50 players at the begin of the next month? You do realize that when those ppl hit 50 and V1-V10 that they want something to and not just to play PVP and instances? You do realize that the new Content is accessible at rank V1? And at last do you even knows what it means having NO ENDGAME in an MMO for the playerbase?

    So plz go play an single player RPG GAME and don't even bother playing an MMO then...
  • Audigy
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    masterdtox wrote: »
    Do we need Craglorn - Hell NO!
    Do we need a game that works - Hell YES!

    To those people that speed leveled to VR 10 and took time off work to do it, slow down and smell the roses.

    Personally, I'd never waste my leave just to speed level a game.

    Dear MMO/ESO player you do realize that this is an MMO right? you do realize that there will be a ton of 50 players at the begin of the next month? You do realize that when those ppl hit 50 and V1-V10 that they want something to and not just to play PVP and instances? You do realize that the new Content is accessible at rank V1? And at last do you even knows what it means having NO ENDGAME in an MMO for the playerbase?

    So plz go play an single player RPG GAME and don't even bother playing an MMO then...

    WOW player detected!

    No offence dude, but do you realize that an MMO Endgame is not only about those 5% of players who do large scale content?

    There was a time when MMO Endgame wasn't about doing the same boss every week, but actually adventuring in the world, taking keeps, defending keeps, stealing artifact´s or building a whole city for your faction and a house for yourself.

    Discovering new story lines, meeting new NPC´s, conquering whole worlds - oh god there is so much you wow players never experienced because you only know raids...

    My advice to you is, go play a real MMO and understand that Endgame is not about raids or go back to wow, it might be a better suited game for your kind, no offence.
  • steven_shidiwenb16_ESO
    Why are you all still discussing this like you saying you don't want craglorn will actually stop craglorn?

    Craglorn is happening. End of Thread. Not even a discussion lmao.
  • repflope
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    You do know ZeniMax is a huge game company with more than 1 team designated on different tasks right? the Craglorn team are different people to the ones working on your stupid Frog quest in Auridon or quests in Greenshade, how about you get to Veteran content where basically nothing is bugged instead of spending 400hours running around and treating it like an online facebook game standing at a bugged quest praying for it to work so it can give you 150gold and barely any exp?!?! Jesus...

    All of those areas are joined by the loading screen that is still stucking people in endless loading. So you could say that you have shared issues. Also there will be new quests and new features related to craglorn. Which means new bugs to be fixed.
  • steven_shidiwenb16_ESO
    repflope wrote: »
    You do know ZeniMax is a huge game company with more than 1 team designated on different tasks right? the Craglorn team are different people to the ones working on your stupid Frog quest in Auridon or quests in Greenshade, how about you get to Veteran content where basically nothing is bugged instead of spending 400hours running around and treating it like an online facebook game standing at a bugged quest praying for it to work so it can give you 150gold and barely any exp?!?! Jesus...

    All of those areas are joined by the loading screen that is still stucking people in endless loading. So you could say that you have shared issues. Also there will be new quests and new features related to craglorn. Which means new bugs to be fixed.

    At least there will be end-game content and i won't be playing another SWTOR
  • LadyMamoulian
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    I agree 100% with Audigy here. The endcontent as it is known from WoW and/or GW2 is a true shame appealing to only a small percentage of endgame players. I truly do hope Craglorn is going to be just a small drop of what Zenimax if planning to add in the upcoming months. I am looking forward to experience new guilds, be able to purchase some property, meet new interesting NPC characters, search for new lorebooks, etc. And of course I am going to level up to VET 10 too, its just that levelling up is not my priority. I know very well that power levelling destroys the game for me as nothing else does.
    Edited by LadyMamoulian on April 21, 2014 5:02AM
  • steven_shidiwenb16_ESO
    Yea its an MMO, not a single player game. Sorry thats just how it is. As for buying property LOL, what game do you think this is? SWG closed buddy. If you want to run around roleplaying as an adventurer and meeting npcs. Fine, but remember you are doing it within an MMO first.

    Right now this game is in the same state as SWtor, no end game.
  • Brainzee
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    masterdtox wrote: »
    And at last do you even knows what it means having NO ENDGAME in an MMO for the playerbase?

    Oddly enough I was under the impression this game's "end-game" content was the faction warfare, at least that's what I bought the game for, not dungeons or raids.

    People have different expectations when it comes to end-game content, and surely not every MMO should lean towards constant introduction of PvE elements.
    Much like there are various types of games there are various types of MMO.

    New content is needed, and this is what paid subscriptions are for, but it does not have to be raids or PvE content, especially in a game that promotes factional warfare.
    Edited by Brainzee on April 21, 2014 5:11AM
  • stuartoatleyeb17_ESO
    A couple of people have mentioned housing in this thread. Sorry to disappoint, but I REALLY can't see this happening. Why? Because the phased megaserver is totally the wrong server setup for housing. You would end up going to where your house should be and 99/100 times finding that you're in a different phase to your house.

    Sorry, not going to happen
  • KerinKor
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    we need craglorn because there isn't any end game content you reach VR10 then do the VR dungeons (which are 4 man dungeons).

    there isn't anything large scale besides PVP craglorn should have been there AT RELEASE.
    We certainly don't need an entire zone of group-only content, with nothing at all to do for those who detest grouping as a way of life.

  • Mustaklaki
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    Are we getting Craglorn - Yes
    Will your posts about if we need Craglorn do anything - No
    Are you mad? - Yes
    Do i think any of the people in this post complaining will get to VR10 - No
    (its 4.1million exp from v9-v10, and i bet you struggle with VR1: 490k)

    And those people will most likely quit saying "Veteran rank leveling is too hard its stupid how much exp it takes!"

    so for future so i don't have to say it later. Bye :wink:

    I can see your veins popping.


    Take people off of Craglorn and put more resources into fixing the actual game. If people are no-lifing the game to get to Vet 10, then that's their fault. Getting to end game after 3 weeks, most people don't do that. Now, EVERYBODY plays the actual game, which is broken across the board. So they should prioritize that instead of Craglorn.
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