Please stop nerfing Warden

Karmanorway · July 2020

Just delete them

ayu_fever · July 2020

i very much like my necro and both of my wardens! i play the necro and one warden as a healer and my second warden is a full ice mage for messing around. (dont worry- i didnt get the trifocus passive and i dont take her into trials or vet content)

but these paid classes are a slippery slope:
they have to be strong enough to warrant the purchase and balanced each update to keep them interesting and viable, but not so strong that they are pay to win.

IMO zos has done an excellent job keeping these classes in a wonderful place while balancing the aforementioned slope.

Khatou · July 2020

the keeper is still far from weak, go play a NB by trying something other than the cheat stuff of the moment and you'll see that this class is completely massacred, so yes, the gank is strong blabla, but if you want to play a lambda Archer, it's a real misery.

No ineffective heal survival, resistance complicate although a novelty with the next maj de la to say that there is too much nerve on the gadian I do not think, this said the only class that deserves a big nerve is the templar that totally rots the pvp!

Karmanorway · July 2020

ayu_fever wrote: »

i very much like my necro and both of my wardens! i play the necro and one warden as a healer and my second warden is a full ice mage for messing around. (dont worry- i didnt get the trifocus passive and i dont take her into trials or vet content)

but these paid classes are a slippery slope:
they have to be strong enough to warrant the purchase and balanced each update to keep them interesting and viable, but not so strong that they are pay to win.

IMO zos has done an excellent job keeping these classes in a wonderful place while balancing the aforementioned slope.

😂🤣😂🤣🤣

Ruder · July 2020

p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »

XiokroDarc wrote: »

Wardens nowadays are basically outmatch is all fields because they have better alternatives, magden is sad excuse for dps, and now youre removing a green balance synergy from the green balance skill tree. Like come on give warden a break every update I see all these cool changes for the other classes, and then warden is like "Removed Green Balance Synergy Proc from green balance skill line" cause ya know wardens were basically only good at tanking and healing so removing stuff that provides nice buffs is too much now.

TL;DR Please stop nerfing warden, it's already a mediocre class, youre gonna turn it into the worst.

Healing Seed change is logical. You expect X class to benefit from a synergy activation of a passive Y class has.

Find me a class skill from the other classes that allows such thing.
There is no other class having an ability passing a skill passive to others.

Is so crazy to demand this staying in game, is similar to Templars demanding that anyone activating Blazing Spear synergy to benefit from my Burning Light passive.

You got it all wrong. The nerf is that the passive wont be trigerred o n thr Warden itself(on the caster) for healing others with the synergy

p_tsakirisb16_ESO · July 2020

Ruder wrote: »

p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »

XiokroDarc wrote: »

Wardens nowadays are basically outmatch is all fields because they have better alternatives, magden is sad excuse for dps, and now youre removing a green balance synergy from the green balance skill tree. Like come on give warden a break every update I see all these cool changes for the other classes, and then warden is like "Removed Green Balance Synergy Proc from green balance skill line" cause ya know wardens were basically only good at tanking and healing so removing stuff that provides nice buffs is too much now.

TL;DR Please stop nerfing warden, it's already a mediocre class, youre gonna turn it into the worst.

Healing Seed change is logical. You expect X class to benefit from a synergy activation of a passive Y class has.

Find me a class skill from the other classes that allows such thing.
There is no other class having an ability passing a skill passive to others.

Is so crazy to demand this staying in game, is similar to Templars demanding that anyone activating Blazing Spear synergy to benefit from my Burning Light passive.

You got it all wrong. The nerf is that the passive wont be trigerred o n thr Warden itself(on the caster) for healing others with the synergy

Again is correct statement. Is like someone activates Blazing Spear synergy and I get Burning Light passive triggered.

No other class passives have such functionality.

Vaoh · July 2020

ESO_Nightingale wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

Well Wardens are:
... the best Healers.
... good Tanks.
... Good Mag DPS.
And they’re good for solo stuff.

There is one thing that Warden is “missing” atm which is PvE viability as an ice mage, and arguably the Vvardenfell theme ought to be ditched.

Warden is a strong class in Greymoor.

it's lacking interesting class skills other than fissure, since every other skill is just a copy pasted version of another skill. it's really good right now because it's mostly weak class skills have been heavily supplemented by several raw damage buffs.

Oh trust me I know lol. But regardless of that, Wardens are finally strong.

Making classes interesting is very different from their strength. Unfortunately ZOS opted to just put flat raw damage buffs and call it a day.