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all complain but no1 gives solution
as in topic
I agree on the bot / grind / seller problem especialy in "public dungeons"
so what i suggest is to adapt public dungoen system from other mmo thatiwas playing some time ago:
when a player wishes to enter any public dungeon:
a menu appears with
- level ranged designed for the zone dungeon is in
(for instance if the starting area is design or level 1- 15, the public dungeon can be set from level 1 to level 15 max, with restriction of -2 level to players level(if player is level 10 he cant enter dungeon below level 8 difficulty).
- and now if a pleyer wishes to go with some1 more he can set up number of players entering the public dungeon enchancing the difficulty of the dungeon by setting it for 2 or more player mode increesing loot quality aswell)
this solution will make dungeons free of bots cos they will be playing in seperate public dungeon layer not disturbing any1 else exept other bots who entered that dungeon in team
and by adjusting dungeons to the party entering it even if its grinders party they will grind for themselves not disturbing other players
I KNOW THIS ISNT PERMAMENT SOLUTIONS TO BOT but atleast its some idea that can help a lot of players for now.
and for future to all forum society - if uwant to complain add at least some sort of solution of the problem cos ultimatums and cries wont help and could even worsen the situation
SO IF U HAVE A PROBLEM ADD YOUR IDEA OF SOLUTION TO IT AND DONT USE ULTIMATUMS COS UR WORSENING THE SITUATION FOR OTHER PLAYERS!
I agree on the bot / grind / seller problem especialy in "public dungeons"
so what i suggest is to adapt public dungoen system from other mmo thatiwas playing some time ago:
when a player wishes to enter any public dungeon:
a menu appears with
- level ranged designed for the zone dungeon is in
(for instance if the starting area is design or level 1- 15, the public dungeon can be set from level 1 to level 15 max, with restriction of -2 level to players level(if player is level 10 he cant enter dungeon below level 8 difficulty).
- and now if a pleyer wishes to go with some1 more he can set up number of players entering the public dungeon enchancing the difficulty of the dungeon by setting it for 2 or more player mode increesing loot quality aswell)
this solution will make dungeons free of bots cos they will be playing in seperate public dungeon layer not disturbing any1 else exept other bots who entered that dungeon in team
and by adjusting dungeons to the party entering it even if its grinders party they will grind for themselves not disturbing other players
I KNOW THIS ISNT PERMAMENT SOLUTIONS TO BOT but atleast its some idea that can help a lot of players for now.
and for future to all forum society - if uwant to complain add at least some sort of solution of the problem cos ultimatums and cries wont help and could even worsen the situation
SO IF U HAVE A PROBLEM ADD YOUR IDEA OF SOLUTION TO IT AND DONT USE ULTIMATUMS COS UR WORSENING THE SITUATION FOR OTHER PLAYERS!
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How about do it the right way and instance them all off and just add individual lock out timers to players.Brave New World.1
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Simple lots of GMs in game ...said this quite a bit. If and I mean IF they GMs in game now, there is a problem.
1) Not doing their jobs
2)Not enough of them to do the job
3) No real in game GMs.4 -
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saki✭✭✭Clotholachesisatropos666b14_ESO wrote: »
So they are all perfect in synchronization, same skills on attack, they move at same sides and they are normal people who wait? And I didnt report, just print screen but I will report you now for harrasment.
I suggest that you go little to public dungeons, where boss spawns and wait a little and see yourself.0 -
lichmeister✭✭✭there are alot of potential fixes but GMs swinging the Ban Hammer is the best: simply bring up the cost of farming so much they cant justify it. i was just running through grahtwood picking up a few shards and every delve i went into had a pair of bots with names like qwieyiqw and qwiuendw (about 4 levels higher than the delve) camping the named spawn camps. each and every time there were 6 or more paying customers lamenting that they couldnt even get a shot in before they killed it.
my DK on shard prowl was considering camping it himself just to give them a taste of their own medicine. im sure at my level i could have killed it fast enough they would get SFA but that just me being the same kind of jerk they are and it doesn't help the other dozen players either!
it doesnt have to be alot of GMs or - even full time - but im sure they are making enough to pay some chump (or one for each faction) to be a full time bot killer. have all teh reports forwarded to them and they can go hunting with the blessings of 90% of the player base!
heck, i would do it for minimum wage or potentially even as a volunteer!
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MissyJ✭✭radoslaw85eb17_ESO wrote: »as in topic
I agree on the bot / grind / seller problem especialy in "public dungeons"
so what i suggest is to adapt public dungoen system from other mmo thatiwas playing some time ago:
when a player wishes to enter any public dungeon:
a menu appears with
- level ranged designed for the zone dungeon is in
(for instance if the starting area is design or level 1- 15, the public dungeon can be set from level 1 to level 15 max, with restriction of -2 level to players level(if player is level 10 he cant enter dungeon below level 8 difficulty).
- and now if a pleyer wishes to go with some1 more he can set up number of players entering the public dungeon enchancing the difficulty of the dungeon by setting it for 2 or more player mode increesing loot quality aswell)
this solution will make dungeons free of bots cos they will be playing in seperate public dungeon layer not disturbing any1 else exept other bots who entered that dungeon in team
and by adjusting dungeons to the party entering it even if its grinders party they will grind for themselves not disturbing other players
I KNOW THIS ISNT PERMAMENT SOLUTIONS TO BOT but atleast its some idea that can help a lot of players for now.
and for future to all forum society - if uwant to complain add at least some sort of solution of the problem cos ultimatums and cries wont help and could even worsen the situation
SO IF U HAVE A PROBLEM ADD YOUR IDEA OF SOLUTION TO IT AND DONT USE ULTIMATUMS COS UR WORSENING THE SITUATION FOR OTHER PLAYERS!
Your solution might work. I have no experience dealing with issues like this on a programming basis. My issue with your post lies in your title. Did you even read some of the posts on the forum??? Ppl have been offering up solutions for this issue past couple of days. Particularly the idea with ingame GMs is a recurring theme in several threads. Yeah a lot of ppl are complaining, but there are also a loooot of players offering possible solutions/suggestions. Not that it helps since Zenimax are either too swamped to deal with the issues at hand or they are just not checking the forum threads....like you apparently didn't....or both.
Kudos to you for suggesting a solution, but no need to make it sound like you are the only one.0 -
radoslaw85eb17_ESO wrote: »as in topic
I agree on the bot / grind / seller problem especialy in "public dungeons"
so what i suggest is to adapt public dungoen system from other mmo thatiwas playing some time ago:
when a player wishes to enter any public dungeon:
a menu appears with
- level ranged designed for the zone dungeon is in
(for instance if the starting area is design or level 1- 15, the public dungeon can be set from level 1 to level 15 max, with restriction of -2 level to players level(if player is level 10 he cant enter dungeon below level 8 difficulty).
- and now if a pleyer wishes to go with some1 more he can set up number of players entering the public dungeon enchancing the difficulty of the dungeon by setting it for 2 or more player mode increesing loot quality aswell)
this solution will make dungeons free of bots cos they will be playing in seperate public dungeon layer not disturbing any1 else exept other bots who entered that dungeon in team
and by adjusting dungeons to the party entering it even if its grinders party they will grind for themselves not disturbing other players
I KNOW THIS ISNT PERMAMENT SOLUTIONS TO BOT but atleast its some idea that can help a lot of players for now.
and for future to all forum society - if uwant to complain add at least some sort of solution of the problem cos ultimatums and cries wont help and could even worsen the situation
SO IF U HAVE A PROBLEM ADD YOUR IDEA OF SOLUTION TO IT AND DONT USE ULTIMATUMS COS UR WORSENING THE SITUATION FOR OTHER PLAYERS!
Your solution might work. I have no experience dealing with issues like this on a programming basis. My issue with your post lies in your title. Did you even read some of the posts on the forum??? Ppl have been offering up solutions for this issue past couple of days. Particularly the idea with ingame GMs is a recurring theme in several threads. Yeah a lot of ppl are complaining, but there are also a loooot of players offering possible solutions/suggestions. Not that it helps since Zenimax are either too swamped to deal with the issues at hand or they are just not checking the forum threads....like you apparently didn't....or both.
Kudos to you for suggesting a solution, but no need to make it sound like you are the only one.
yes i read other posts but sadly in last 2 days there was 1 post offering solutions and tons of putting ultimatum / crying / complaingn / blaming Zen and none of them said anything how to solve problems... thats what annoyed me that much and thats why istarted this topic so ppl would represent a pair of problem and their solution - hopefully itll work but thats for zenimax and forum mods to decide... im simply trying to make things easier for some ppl and explain to others what they should do cos Posts like " if uwont do a thing i will rage quit, PERIOD" wont solve anything and may even infuriate zenimax to the level where they simply drop developing the game or solve any problems...
and since im great fan of tes series i dont want that...
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Agobi✭✭✭✭✭
✭Solution is really really simple....every other mmo has found it....make dungeons and delves instanced to group.
Problem solved.1 -
xxs0cksxx✭✭revanghost wrote: »What makes you think the devs or ESO staff care about community suggestions?
Agree here. Zenimax is a company. The only thing that makes them change something is money. They don't give a damn about what people in the forum want.
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rayvn03b14_ESO✭✭✭revanghost wrote: »What makes you think the devs or ESO staff care about community suggestions?
Agree here. Zenimax is a company. The only thing that makes them change something is money. They don't give a damn about what people in the forum want.
The fact that they seem to think that every messed up stupid thing they do is the best business practice for this game when it obviously isn't especially when compared to similar MMORPGs makes me wonder if the devs and marketing both got their degrees out a cereal box.
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Tetrasoli✭✭✭With all the Rube Goldberg solutions, why not the Occam's Razor one instead?
The solution has been around for years. It's called per-player instancing. You enter and you are alone. If you invite a friend to a group, then they can enter with you. You want a blue? You work for it... by yourself or with a friend. As it stands now, the whole mess is a handout.
Then, you then take a handful of existing public dungeons (or better yet, just add more to the game) and make the mobs elite with a higher drop rate on blues. And like magic, you still have public dungeons, but ones that actually require more than one person to kill things in.Edited by Tetrasoli on April 21, 2014 3:23AM0 -
Evergreen✭✭✭revanghost wrote: »What makes you think the devs or ESO staff care about community suggestions?
A prayer to the internet can have therapeutic value. Seriously though I think people farming a few soul gems and set pieces in public dungeons is fine. Bots on the other hand are a real and serious problem which Zenimax hopefully deals with.
In an earlier thread someone mentioned that there should be live GM which could immediately recognize and take care of a situation with obvious botting. I thought this was a great idea and wouldn't cost too much I'd imagine to hire some enforcers but I'm not qualified to know how economically viable this would be for Zenimax to do.0
