StamPlar_1976 wrote: »Oh boy. This one going to be a good one lol.
Athyrium93 wrote: »In my experience as a newer player, PVE players can be extremely judgmental and unforgiving in group content (aka NORMAL dungeons) to any mistake or lack of knowledge. From Insta-kicks to berating the low level DD whos DPS isn't very good, to blaming the healer for them standing in stupid (I've seen both sides of it, since I've been swapping back and forth from healer to dps, and have watched it happen to other players as well, so it's not just that I suck, which I still kinda do) It just seems like as a general rule PVE players in PUGs are kinda jerks. (there have also been some awesome people that were really helpful, so it's not everyone, or even most people)
On the other hand, when I travel to Cyrodiil everyone is so freaking nice. Like multiple people giving tips and tricks, asking new/low level people if they need food, making gear recommendations, telling the squishys to stay in the middle of the group, straight up carrying my squishy self, who has never done PVP in any game ever, so that I can unlock Warhorn. And this wasn't once or twice, every time I end up in Cyrodiil the friendly atmosphere and camaraderie is amazing. When everyone is that supportive and friendly it makes PVP addicting, which I never would have expected.
This post isn't to hate on PVE players, but if your doing a normal dungeon, maybe slow down a bit and try to help the person that is struggling or working on the quest, and to the PVP players, you guys are freaking awesome.
*breaks down with laughter*Athyrium93 wrote: »On the other hand, when I travel to Cyrodiil everyone is so freaking nice.
kathandira wrote: »Athyrium93 wrote: »In my experience as a newer player, PVE players can be extremely judgmental and unforgiving in group content (aka NORMAL dungeons) to any mistake or lack of knowledge. From Insta-kicks to berating the low level DD whos DPS isn't very good, to blaming the healer for them standing in stupid (I've seen both sides of it, since I've been swapping back and forth from healer to dps, and have watched it happen to other players as well, so it's not just that I suck, which I still kinda do) It just seems like as a general rule PVE players in PUGs are kinda jerks. (there have also been some awesome people that were really helpful, so it's not everyone, or even most people)
On the other hand, when I travel to Cyrodiil everyone is so freaking nice. Like multiple people giving tips and tricks, asking new/low level people if they need food, making gear recommendations, telling the squishys to stay in the middle of the group, straight up carrying my squishy self, who has never done PVP in any game ever, so that I can unlock Warhorn. And this wasn't once or twice, every time I end up in Cyrodiil the friendly atmosphere and camaraderie is amazing. When everyone is that supportive and friendly it makes PVP addicting, which I never would have expected.
This post isn't to hate on PVE players, but if your doing a normal dungeon, maybe slow down a bit and try to help the person that is struggling or working on the quest, and to the PVP players, you guys are freaking awesome.
What platform do you play on? In my experience, the PvE Elitist complaints tend to come from the PC crowd.
Having played on both Xbox and Playstation, it has been rare to encounter such players. I have indeed been removed from groups with no reason given before, but if I were to throw a percentage of the time it happens out there, it would be lower than 5% of the time.
Athyrium93 wrote: »On the other hand, when I travel to Cyrodiil everyone is so freaking nice.

If people are getting upset at others for NORMAL dungeon runs then they themselves struggle with completing them. One person can carry a group through every base-game normal dungeon.
Vet dungeons, especially DLC Vets, is where I can understand some frustration when someone comes in ignorant and/or unprepared, but at the same time that is the risk you need to be willing to accept when you PUG.
Athyrium93 wrote: »kathandira wrote: »Athyrium93 wrote: »In my experience as a newer player, PVE players can be extremely judgmental and unforgiving in group content (aka NORMAL dungeons) to any mistake or lack of knowledge. From Insta-kicks to berating the low level DD whos DPS isn't very good, to blaming the healer for them standing in stupid (I've seen both sides of it, since I've been swapping back and forth from healer to dps, and have watched it happen to other players as well, so it's not just that I suck, which I still kinda do) It just seems like as a general rule PVE players in PUGs are kinda jerks. (there have also been some awesome people that were really helpful, so it's not everyone, or even most people)
On the other hand, when I travel to Cyrodiil everyone is so freaking nice. Like multiple people giving tips and tricks, asking new/low level people if they need food, making gear recommendations, telling the squishys to stay in the middle of the group, straight up carrying my squishy self, who has never done PVP in any game ever, so that I can unlock Warhorn. And this wasn't once or twice, every time I end up in Cyrodiil the friendly atmosphere and camaraderie is amazing. When everyone is that supportive and friendly it makes PVP addicting, which I never would have expected.
This post isn't to hate on PVE players, but if your doing a normal dungeon, maybe slow down a bit and try to help the person that is struggling or working on the quest, and to the PVP players, you guys are freaking awesome.
What platform do you play on? In my experience, the PvE Elitist complaints tend to come from the PC crowd.
Having played on both Xbox and Playstation, it has been rare to encounter such players. I have indeed been removed from groups with no reason given before, but if I were to throw a percentage of the time it happens out there, it would be lower than 5% of the time.
It is indeed on PC, I'd say 8-12% of PVE DPS players are jerks (my results might be different because I'm typically playing as a healer, and play with the same tank most of the time) with something like 3-5% being super awesome and the rest just being silent. That's from about 150ish hours of dungeon runs on normal.
PVP (in no CP) has been 30-40% awesome with 3-5% jerks, over the course of 25ish hours playing
Athyrium93 wrote: »kathandira wrote: »Athyrium93 wrote: »In my experience as a newer player, PVE players can be extremely judgmental and unforgiving in group content (aka NORMAL dungeons) to any mistake or lack of knowledge. From Insta-kicks to berating the low level DD whos DPS isn't very good, to blaming the healer for them standing in stupid (I've seen both sides of it, since I've been swapping back and forth from healer to dps, and have watched it happen to other players as well, so it's not just that I suck, which I still kinda do) It just seems like as a general rule PVE players in PUGs are kinda jerks. (there have also been some awesome people that were really helpful, so it's not everyone, or even most people)
On the other hand, when I travel to Cyrodiil everyone is so freaking nice. Like multiple people giving tips and tricks, asking new/low level people if they need food, making gear recommendations, telling the squishys to stay in the middle of the group, straight up carrying my squishy self, who has never done PVP in any game ever, so that I can unlock Warhorn. And this wasn't once or twice, every time I end up in Cyrodiil the friendly atmosphere and camaraderie is amazing. When everyone is that supportive and friendly it makes PVP addicting, which I never would have expected.
This post isn't to hate on PVE players, but if your doing a normal dungeon, maybe slow down a bit and try to help the person that is struggling or working on the quest, and to the PVP players, you guys are freaking awesome.
What platform do you play on? In my experience, the PvE Elitist complaints tend to come from the PC crowd.
Having played on both Xbox and Playstation, it has been rare to encounter such players. I have indeed been removed from groups with no reason given before, but if I were to throw a percentage of the time it happens out there, it would be lower than 5% of the time.
It is indeed on PC, I'd say 8-12% of PVE DPS players are jerks (my results might be different because I'm typically playing as a healer, and play with the same tank most of the time) with something like 3-5% being super awesome and the rest just being silent. That's from about 150ish hours of dungeon runs on normal.
PVP (in no CP) has been 30-40% awesome with 3-5% jerks, over the course of 25ish hours playing
Athyrium93 wrote: »In my experience as a newer player, PVE players can be extremely judgmental and unforgiving in group content (aka NORMAL dungeons) to any mistake or lack of knowledge. From Insta-kicks to berating the low level DD whos DPS isn't very good, to blaming the healer for them standing in stupid (I've seen both sides of it, since I've been swapping back and forth from healer to dps, and have watched it happen to other players as well, so it's not just that I suck, which I still kinda do) It just seems like as a general rule PVE players in PUGs are kinda jerks. (there have also been some awesome people that were really helpful, so it's not everyone, or even most people)
On the other hand, when I travel to Cyrodiil everyone is so freaking nice. Like multiple people giving tips and tricks, asking new/low level people if they need food, making gear recommendations, telling the squishys to stay in the middle of the group, straight up carrying my squishy self, who has never done PVP in any game ever, so that I can unlock Warhorn. And this wasn't once or twice, every time I end up in Cyrodiil the friendly atmosphere and camaraderie is amazing. When everyone is that supportive and friendly it makes PVP addicting, which I never would have expected.
This post isn't to hate on PVE players, but if your doing a normal dungeon, maybe slow down a bit and try to help the person that is struggling or working on the quest, and to the PVP players, you guys are freaking awesome.
Athyrium93 wrote: »On the other hand, when I travel to Cyrodiil everyone is so freaking nice. Like multiple people giving tips and tricks, asking new/low level people if they need food, making gear recommendations, telling the squishys to stay in the middle of the group, straight up carrying my squishy self, who has never done PVP in any game ever, so that I can unlock Warhorn. And this wasn't once or twice, every time I end up in Cyrodiil the friendly atmosphere and camaraderie is amazing. When everyone is that supportive and friendly it makes PVP addicting, which I never would have expected.
If people are getting upset at others for NORMAL dungeon runs then they themselves struggle with completing them. One person can carry a group through every base-game normal dungeon.
Vet dungeons, especially DLC Vets, is where I can understand some frustration when someone comes in ignorant and/or unprepared, but at the same time that is the risk you need to be willing to accept when you PUG.