Jacozilla wrote: »

JinMori wrote: »

Jacozilla wrote: »

JinMori wrote: »

Jacozilla wrote: »

Give mag a relequen like set that boosts dps by same margin as it does on stam, and sure - I'll happily endorse stam getting an identical thrassian version or just make thrassian boost both spell/wep dmg.

Which would also mean btw, to be consistent with your request, all other mythical items that are geared for stam or come only in heavy weight, should also come in light/med weights as well.

This argument i dislike, it's basically since i don;t have this you can;t have that. *** this ***.

I want the game to be overall better, not to play this kind of bs.

So the BS you want is one where it is still BS but so long as it favors you is good BS vs really bad when it doesn’t.

Stam is already and has been for some time the highest dps - case in point orc stamcro - highest by good margin ever since necromancers came out w/ Elswyr, over a year ago (Jun 2019 to be exact).

So what you’re saying is you want these same dps dominating stamcros which have held the top dps spot for over a year, to also have the added same benefit of stam version of Thrassian. Ok got it, when you like the BS it is not hypocrisy.

I play stam and magicka. I just think it's a bad argument, and you are just finding excuses for your point of view, that's about it.

I don't care about the "but they have this and we don't argument" i want cool things for both.

I tend to be very brash, but didn't actually mean offense. i just think this argument is bs.

Also, the only reason why stam had higher dps than mag was purely thanks to relequen, remove that set and magicka is immediately superior, and if mag had a relequen set, forget it.

Before the dot nerfs stam and mag were actually doing relatively the same damage with comparable sets, that is no longer the case.

I think it has mostly to do with maelstrom arena weapons, the dot nerfs, especially endless hail badly reflected on stam dps, but mag was unaffected, because light attack damage, but this is just a hunch, you cna try it yourself, use malestrom weapons, and comparable sets for mag and stam, mag will basically always be better.

I don’t have to try it, I believe you and already know the same. But listen to what you just said - if I deliberately gimp my stam dps test by not wearing the best meta sets avail, and have both mag and stam wear some roughly equivalent sets instead of what is best available for both archetypes, then of course the dps result for stam will be lower.

The bottom line is the overall build avail to stam and same for mag. If you want to compare 2 MMA fighters, you can’t say they are both roughly equal instead of one guy being able to easily beat the other because you require the superior fighter to ignore using his best assets.

And relequen being such a strong set was entirely my point in first post. It’s an awesome set, my 13 stam chars love it - i also have 13 mag chars. Because relequen is so strong, my point was if stam got an equal thrassian and kept relequen while mag got no relequen equvalent, the disparity between top stamcro vs mag would be even greater. (Or would have been until greymoor just came out)

As I said above, for at least a year+ from June 2019 Elswyr launch to just before greymoor launch, stam has been top dps with stamcro in particular being top outlier. With greymoor and some vamp builds for mag, maybe this will change and mag will have fair share of time in the sun. But if stam were able to combine rele + look with an identical thrassian tuned for stam (med weight, wep dmg boost), then no way. Bottom line, how many more years of stam = top dps do you think is fair before mag has a turn? Bc I can see it happening maybe with greymoor and more mag eventually makes myth builds, but if stam gets stam thrassian with no mag counterpart to relequen, then it’s just automatically another year for stam top dog