many of us would like to explore cyro. we dont want to pvp and most importantly, we are not geared for pvp. this way we can do the pve part of the events in peace. [snip] inappropriately geared people coming to cyro is not the same as pvp geared people coming to pve. afraid of dungeon kicks? group up with a mate and you will be safe.
CassandraGemini wrote: »Sanguinor2 wrote: »
You beat me to it. There may be different instances, but the map itself is always the same, so I consider it one zone. You could argue that there is the IC, so maybe it's two zones, but then the IC is specifically PvPvE, so I would see it as something all of its own.
there is pve in cyro, too. pve quests, too.
I think this is a good point. Could we have like 1 day a year where you can run passive and get the rest of the dolmens and not get plummeted every time I venture into enemy territory? Just want that trophy bling.
Can I get PvP enabled in all the other zones then?
many of us would like to explore cyro.
No one is stopping you from exploring the boring PvE stuff in Cyro.
Despite what people here in the forums are telling you there aren't dozens of gankers waiting at every quest, skyshard or fishing spot.
You can do all that stuff for hours, sometimes even days, without meeting another player.
not when the pvp event is on. they sit in the places you need to go.
Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »I dont really care about whether or not they make a no PVP Cyro. Seems incredibly boring to me, but what do I know. What bothers me is the perpetual ignorance that is being spread around about this being a gear issue, and not a L2P or just being scared to die (in a video game) issue. You dont need crazy gear to compete in Cyro. You just need to give it a go and accept that fact that you will probably die a lot in the beginning.
oh yes you will dieand you really need impen gear. and of course a second set of gear takes up slots in your bag/bank.
DreamsUnderStars wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »many of us would like to explore cyro. we dont want to pvp and most importantly, we are not geared for pvp. this way we can do the pve part of the events in peace. [snip] inappropriately geared people coming to cyro is not the same as pvp geared people coming to pve. afraid of dungeon kicks? group up with a mate and you will be safe.
Uh, group up in PvP and you will be safe.
not if we are all pve people. pvp has builds that can take out quite a large group. it's called a bomb. just think of the ap they get for that.
Salvas_Aren wrote: »The base topic of this game is the alliance war, and you ask for the only war zone to have no war.
Uhhm, since some of you claim you either never or hardly ever get killed by other players... why would you be against a PvE only Cyrodiil?
If it basically does not change anything, it would just keep PvE players out of a PvP area. Which can only be good versus the lag issues that Cyrodiil seems to be having, according to many.
The only reason I can think of for pvpers to actually be against something like this, is because they want access to easy PvE-player kills. Instead of actual PvP battles against a PvP opponent.
Why is anyone emotionally distraught over people wanting a PVE (what the game is about) zone that will not significantly impact them?
Uhhm, since some of you claim you either never or hardly ever get killed by other players... why would you be against a PvE only Cyrodiil?
If it basically does not change anything, it would just keep PvE players out of a PvP area. Which can only be good versus the lag issues that Cyrodiil seems to be having, according to many.
The only reason I can think of for pvpers to actually be against something like this, is because they want access to easy PvE-player kills. Instead of actual PvP battles against a PvP opponent.
Uhhm, since some of you claim you either never or hardly ever get killed by other players... why would you be against a PvE only Cyrodiil?
If it basically does not change anything, it would just keep PvE players out of a PvP area. Which can only be good versus the lag issues that Cyrodiil seems to be having, according to many.
The only reason I can think of for pvpers to actually be against something like this, is because they want access to easy PvE-player kills. Instead of actual PvP battles against a PvP opponent.
Terrible idea. There is a good reason to have content in PvP zones that is for people that enjoy both PvP and PvE. If you don't like one, don't do it, the same way I do not do all PvE content and don't receive the rewards for it.
The game SHOULD have different activities with DIFFERENT rewards. You don't NEED to do Cyrodill for any reason; you WANT to. And you CAN right now; you just refuse to. PvPers HAVE to do PvE content to be successful. And I think that, too, is okay.
many of us would like to explore cyro. we dont want to pvp and most importantly, we are not geared for pvp. this way we can do the pve part of the events in peace. and for you whiny pvp people: NO. inappropriately geared people coming to cyro is not the same as pvp geared people coming to pve. afraid of dungeon kicks? group up with a mate and you will be safe.
A new zone wouldn't be necessary for this. They could just give players the option to flag off PvP so other players could not attack them.
Daemons_Bane wrote: »Before reading this, please note that I have only read the title of the post..
NO.. Cyrodil is the designated PvP zone, and always have been.. It is literally the only zone with a risk involved, and such a zone needs to exist.. I am a diehard PvE'er and I hate the PvP in this game.. But I do not think it would be fair to take this away from the PvP players.. And it is really not too hard to explore the zone/quests in piece..
many of us would like to explore cyro.
No one is stopping you from exploring the boring PvE stuff in Cyro.
Despite what people here in the forums are telling you there aren't dozens of gankers waiting at every quest, skyshard or fishing spot.
You can do all that stuff for hours, sometimes even days, without meeting another player.
not when the pvp event is on. they sit in the places you need to go.
So you want to benefit from the rewards of the PvP event without risk of PvP?
If there was a PvE Cyrodiil, the event would not work there.
And if you just want to explore and do the town quests and get the achievements, you can just do that when there are no events.
PS: If you want tickets, just do scouting missions. They are the easiest to do and you rarely encounter someone along the way.
many of us would like to explore cyro.
No one is stopping you from exploring the boring PvE stuff in Cyro.
Despite what people here in the forums are telling you there aren't dozens of gankers waiting at every quest, skyshard or fishing spot.
You can do all that stuff for hours, sometimes even days, without meeting another player.
not when the pvp event is on. they sit in the places you need to go.
So you want to benefit from the rewards of the PvP event without risk of PvP?
If there was a PvE Cyrodiil, the event would not work there.
And if you just want to explore and do the town quests and get the achievements, you can just do that when there are no events.
PS: If you want tickets, just do scouting missions. They are the easiest to do and you rarely encounter someone along the way.
yes i do scouting missions. i have done the pvp event every time it has come out. doesnt do much for actually wanting to SEE cyro, does it?
I was always reluctant to try PvP. My experiences of PvP came from games such as Runescape and I hated it. So I stuck to PvE.
But then I dabbled, I risked Cyrodiil to get some event boxes, I wasn't ganked as every PvE player is led to believe will happen when they go through the gates. I even made it to Imperial City although I didn't have a clue what to do there! This was in the days when you accessed the City from the Cyrodiil map.
And then I left it. Wasn't interested and would have agreed with the original poster.
But then the social guild I'm in sent me an invite to a PvP guild they sister with. I stayed out of Cyrodiil, it was scary.
Eventually though intrigue got the better of me, I started venturing in, first with friends and then on guild sky shard, delve and and dolmen runs.
I started running with the PvP guild and found to my surprise that my preconceptions were wrong. Yes it can get salty but I've seen far worse in Grahtwood zone chat.
I found the more I did it the better I understood it, the better I understood it the more enjoyment I got.
Today I am working towards Grand Overlord and hopefully will get crowned Emp in the next couple of days.
I have done all the PvE content. I have collected every book (eidetic memory) from Cyrodiil.
Most PvPers will leave obvious PvErs alone. Not all, but most. Sometimes though PvErs bite back. I was doing a delve and one of those gankers decided to have a go at me.
He died.
I still consider myself a PvEr, but I do enjoy PvP.
Nothing beats the buzz of running a scroll from Warden to Mnem
many of us would like to explore cyro. we dont want to pvp and most importantly, we are not geared for pvp. this way we can do the pve part of the events in peace. and for you whiny pvp people: NO. inappropriately geared people coming to cyro is not the same as pvp geared people coming to pve. afraid of dungeon kicks? group up with a mate and you will be safe.
I was always reluctant to try PvP. My experiences of PvP came from games such as Runescape and I hated it. So I stuck to PvE.
But then I dabbled, I risked Cyrodiil to get some event boxes, I wasn't ganked as every PvE player is led to believe will happen when they go through the gates. I even made it to Imperial City although I didn't have a clue what to do there! This was in the days when you accessed the City from the Cyrodiil map.
And then I left it. Wasn't interested and would have agreed with the original poster.
But then the social guild I'm in sent me an invite to a PvP guild they sister with. I stayed out of Cyrodiil, it was scary.
Eventually though intrigue got the better of me, I started venturing in, first with friends and then on guild sky shard, delve and and dolmen runs.
I started running with the PvP guild and found to my surprise that my preconceptions were wrong. Yes it can get salty but I've seen far worse in Grahtwood zone chat.
I found the more I did it the better I understood it, the better I understood it the more enjoyment I got.
Today I am working towards Grand Overlord and hopefully will get crowned Emp in the next couple of days.
I have done all the PvE content. I have collected every book (eidetic memory) from Cyrodiil.
Most PvPers will leave obvious PvErs alone. Not all, but most. Sometimes though PvErs bite back. I was doing a delve and one of those gankers decided to have a go at me.
He died.
I still consider myself a PvEr, but I do enjoy PvP.
Nothing beats the buzz of running a scroll from Warden to Mnem
i have been to cryo. i have helped to take keeps & defend them; been in long battles; chased down enemies; helped a guildmate become empress. that is NOT exploring cyro. and it is very draining to me.
Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »I dont really care about whether or not they make a no PVP Cyro. Seems incredibly boring to me, but what do I know. What bothers me is the perpetual ignorance that is being spread around about this being a gear issue, and not a L2P or just being scared to die (in a video game) issue. You dont need crazy gear to compete in Cyro. You just need to give it a go and accept that fact that you will probably die a lot in the beginning.
oh yes you will dieand you really need impen gear. and of course a second set of gear takes up slots in your bag/bank.
Are you arguing that with a straight face? What the heck else is your bag and bank for? Do you know how stupidly easy it is to get a set of impen gear? You want a new zone over 10-12 inventory slots and gear that anyone who has put even an afterthought into crafting can make?
News flash, without combat, cyrodiil is not a very interesting place.
It seems very clear Zos intentionally put certain things behind the PvP wall such as the most significant ultimate used by tanks and healers in PvE, over 60 skill points, and the quests required for getting the PvE Hero of Tamriel title. As such I doubt Zos will have any interest in providing a PvE only Cyrodiil campaign anytime soon.
It is not that hard. Just go into a low population campaign and be a little cautious. Considering I did all the PvE stuff in busy campaigns and faced few issues I expect those who want to avoid PvP will be just fine in a low pop campaign and rarely face an actual player who will attack them.