No New Character Slots Added in Greymoor

SeaGtGruff · May 2020

I have slots for 9 characters, because I've never purchased any additional slots.

Of those slots, I'd used only 7 of them on the PC NA server, and only 6 of them on the PC EU server.

After creating a new character on both servers-- purely for the sake of being able to get the Snowmelt Suite for free-- I've still got 1 free slot on PC NA, and 2 free slots on PC EU.

I can't imagine needing more than 9 slots, because as it is I play on only 1 of my PC EU characters-- and although I do play on all 7 of my pre-Greymoor PC NA characters, it's only to do daily crafting writs on them.

It blows my mind that (apparently) so many players have 18 characters per server per account, and that some of them play on multiple accounts and on multiple servers per account.

Hotdog_23 · May 2020

It more about having different experiences in the game with the options available. Like many people I work a full-time job, have a family and commitments also. Each class plays differently and goes about doing said role in different ways. Which is why I would like so many characters. I don’t want to have a 2nd account just to play the way I want to because of restrictions on number of characters I can create.

Just because I can’t play them all each day should not be a reason why I can’t have them ready and geared up to play when I am ready to play.

Uryel · May 2020

SolidusPrime wrote: »

Just curious - What number would you be satisfied with?

Why have a limit ? You pay for those, so it's not like they're taking free space on the server. They're taking paid space on the server. I suppose that a limit would be handy, but I know some games with a limit above 100 slots, so... There's that.

Arrodisia · May 2020

Sirona_Starr wrote: »

10 races, 6 classes.
60 slots for 6 classes per race sounds good. I'm NOT saying I'd use 60 slots, but it could be the top end of available slots.

I'm not counting hybrids either lol.

Not everyone uses all their character slots, so for those of us maxed at 18, the unused slots by players (which they could hypothetically max out slots and choose not to), could at least be considered part of the potential server load as if everyone maxed their slots. In other words, there is room for more character slots to be made available for those that would be willing to buy them.

Just saying.

I absolutely agree. As a player who enjoys leveling so much, I'd like to see many more character slots. I'd actually use them all. Each character I create is unique, having their own personality, game play and customization tied to it. No 2 characters of mine are alike. I don't ever want to destroy any of them. Anyway, have fun all.

karthrag_inak · May 2020

What this one fails to understand is the antagonism some people have toward folks with many characters. Why does it perplex and upset folks who do not have many characters that there are others who want many characters?

It is not as if this would cause any big burden in any way for ZOS - the mechanism to purchase more character slots is already present, and IF DONE CORRECTLY character storage should be minimal - perhaps only a function of saving a string (name) and a few dozen bytes of char-specific data (stats, skills, attributes, achievements, status, equipped gear, etc) for each character's specific storage.

Inventory is (or should be) account wide, and since max inventory now is 4530 slots, adding another couple multiples of 205 would be trivial, with each inventory item being item id (int), stack size (byte - stacks are limited to 200), condition/charge (could be easily stored in byte or short), trait and enchant if available (both could be put in a single byte), which character has item(byte, fewer than 256 possible locations) and any status for item (another byte). That's 80 bits per item, and for full inventory, that's about 11 kb for the entire account's inventory. Adding another 205 slots would add about 513 bytes to account-shared storage.

Let's round up and say that each character takes up 2kb of storage space. Surely anyone with even rudimentary understanding of current computing capabilities would recognize that the "Database storage is prohibitive" argument is absurd.

This one can only think that, by some folks saying saying they want more characters, the critics perceive these folks as somehow attempting to elevate themselves above their fellow players who do not require an expanded roster, yes? This is silly - some just like variety, yes?

Elderscrolls has always been about being able to perform any skill, eventually to mastery (or at least since Daggerfall came out) . ESO is class-based to help balance character interactions, so this is not possible on a single character. Some still want the Elderscrolls experience, yes? So it must be spread across many characters.

This one has 18 characters, all are full cp (cp1246+), fully maxed crafters with at least 8 traits learned, fully maxed on their weapon and class skill lines, fully geared out with reasonably good equipment. Nearly all have done veteran dungeons and some vet trials (except his healers, this one is much better at needing healers than being one

), and every character gets logged in at least 5 times a week to do dailies.

Every class has different methods to perform the different roles in the game, yes? This seems obvious to folks when it comes to DPS, but somehow folks just gloss over tanks and healers. Sorc tank is very different in practice from, say, DK tank, or Necro tank, for example. This one has 4 different tanks, and each has very different play styles that are each exciting and fun. While this one is not a very good healer, he does have 2 - templar and nightblade - and they could not be more different, although this one is far from expert (or even competent heh) at playing them.

This one's 18 characters all have a unique identity, are all specific facets of his ESO presence, yes?

Part of this one's gaming experience is that his characters do what they do as part of who they are. Just respeccing an established character to another role is counter to this perspective, and not what this one would consider enjoyable.

KBKB · May 2020

[snip] I AHVE 10 CHARACTERS AND EVEN I THINK THAT'S TOO MUCH SHOULD BE LOCKED AT 6 SO YOU CARE MORE

[edited for bashing]

robertthebard · May 2020

xhaven wrote: »

SolidusPrime wrote: »

xhaven wrote: »

Why!!!
Im already at 18/18 waiting for the chapter to drop so I can start a new character.
Is it to force us to try and buy the game twice?
Of the current mmos, why is ESO so bad at having character slots!

That's a very unreasonable assumption. 18 characters per server is a lot.

Just curious - What number would you be satisfied with?

I have played several mmos, I came from wow to eso, in wow the limit is 50 characters per realm. I played swotor where it was at the time 54 per server, I have played GW 2, where the character limit is 71. In addition in swotor and gw2 you have to pay for some character slots just like in eso. So no to me having more than 18 is not unreasonable at all.

Yeah, it is abnormally high in swtor due to server merges, it used to be substantially lower. Then there's the whole "all of your characters aren't on the same server" thing. Aion's limit was 8, I think, and that wasn't per server, it was the limit.

As to "ZoS didn't give me something they didn't advertise", well, duh?

driosketch · May 2020

Raisin wrote: »

Their reasoning for adding character slots in previous chapters was usually because they added a new class.

Don't know about Summerset.

They did not. For that chapter, as with this one, I just deleted and remade my most recent character.

History of character slots:
Orignally 12 during beta, it was reduced to 8 at luanch.
They sold the additional 4 slots through the crown store much later.
They added 2 more slots for Morrowind.
They added 1 new slot for level up rewards when those were added.
They added 3 more slots for Elsweyr.

Sarannah · May 2020

Personally, I sometimes get a craving for a new type of character I'd like to build. Would love to see atleast a total of 50 character slots per account.

For now I only have 16 character slots in use, due to there being only 18 character slots. If they ever release a new class, I do not want to have to delete a character. This is why I stayed at 16 for now. Characters in ESO are very unique: recipe's, motifs, quest progress, character building(looks), character progress(stats/CP/skills), crafting progress(including research), riding progress, etc. Which makes deleting a character feel like a progress killer to me.

PS: My craving right now is to make a full-on vampire character. As the changes to vampire seem terrible, but I want to try it. Not sure yet if I will sacrifice a character slot for it.
PPS: I am actually planning to play them all, atleast through all overland content... but there is only 24 hours in one day.

Dr_Sinister · May 2020

Hotdog_23 wrote: »

I want 6 for each class, 36 total and no I should not have to get a second account just to be able to play all the combinations I want to play.

1 PVE Stamina
2 PVE Magic
3 PVE Healer
4 PVE Tank
5 PVP stamina
6 PVP Magic

That's a you problem, not a Zenimax problem.

robertthebard · May 2020

Sarannah wrote: »

Personally, I sometimes get a craving for a new type of character I'd like to build. Would love to see atleast a total of 50 character slots per account.

For now I only have 16 character slots in use, due to there being only 18 character slots. If they ever release a new class, I do not want to have to delete a character. This is why I stayed at 16 for now. Characters in ESO are very unique: recipe's, motifs, quest progress, character building(looks), character progress(stats/CP/skills), crafting progress(including research), riding progress, etc. Which makes deleting a character feel like a progress killer to me.

PS: My craving right now is to make a full-on vampire character. As the changes to vampire seem terrible, but I want to try it. Not sure yet if I will sacrifice a character slot for it.
PPS: I am actually planning to play them all, atleast through all overland content... but there is only 24 hours in one day.

As a certified altaholic, I have learned that it's best, where crafting is a thing, to focus one character on each profession. That way, if something comes up and I do feel like one of them has to go, I have an assortment of characters that were simply "feeding" the crafters to choose from. At this point, however, I'm only to 8 characters, although I could buy another slot now if I wanted one. I just don't know what it is I'd make, and I have an unhealthy range of NBs right now, despite all the forum hoopla about how bad they are.

Hapexamendios · May 2020

I have an Argonian necromancer I could theoretically do any role with.

Sarannah · May 2020

robertthebard wrote: »

Sarannah wrote: »

Personally, I sometimes get a craving for a new type of character I'd like to build. Would love to see atleast a total of 50 character slots per account.

For now I only have 16 character slots in use, due to there being only 18 character slots. If they ever release a new class, I do not want to have to delete a character. This is why I stayed at 16 for now. Characters in ESO are very unique: recipe's, motifs, quest progress, character building(looks), character progress(stats/CP/skills), crafting progress(including research), riding progress, etc. Which makes deleting a character feel like a progress killer to me.

PS: My craving right now is to make a full-on vampire character. As the changes to vampire seem terrible, but I want to try it. Not sure yet if I will sacrifice a character slot for it.
PPS: I am actually planning to play them all, atleast through all overland content... but there is only 24 hours in one day.

As a certified altaholic, I have learned that it's best, where crafting is a thing, to focus one character on each profession. That way, if something comes up and I do feel like one of them has to go, I have an assortment of characters that were simply "feeding" the crafters to choose from. At this point, however, I'm only to 8 characters, although I could buy another slot now if I wanted one. I just don't know what it is I'd make, and I have an unhealthy range of NBs right now, despite all the forum hoopla about how bad they are.

Hehe, my mind doesn't work like that... my mind wants to go for 100% progression. Which is why taking my characters through overland content is so damn slow, I 100% the zones. Same with crafting, I want them all to have everything maxed. Kind of had to let this go for motifs already though, only got those on one character.

robertthebard · May 2020

Sarannah wrote: »

robertthebard wrote: »

Sarannah wrote: »

Personally, I sometimes get a craving for a new type of character I'd like to build. Would love to see atleast a total of 50 character slots per account.

For now I only have 16 character slots in use, due to there being only 18 character slots. If they ever release a new class, I do not want to have to delete a character. This is why I stayed at 16 for now. Characters in ESO are very unique: recipe's, motifs, quest progress, character building(looks), character progress(stats/CP/skills), crafting progress(including research), riding progress, etc. Which makes deleting a character feel like a progress killer to me.

PS: My craving right now is to make a full-on vampire character. As the changes to vampire seem terrible, but I want to try it. Not sure yet if I will sacrifice a character slot for it.
PPS: I am actually planning to play them all, atleast through all overland content... but there is only 24 hours in one day.

As a certified altaholic, I have learned that it's best, where crafting is a thing, to focus one character on each profession. That way, if something comes up and I do feel like one of them has to go, I have an assortment of characters that were simply "feeding" the crafters to choose from. At this point, however, I'm only to 8 characters, although I could buy another slot now if I wanted one. I just don't know what it is I'd make, and I have an unhealthy range of NBs right now, despite all the forum hoopla about how bad they are.

Hehe, my mind doesn't work like that... my mind wants to go for 100% progression. Which is why taking my characters through overland content is so damn slow, I 100% the zones. Same with crafting, I want them all to have everything maxed. Kind of had to let this go for motifs already though, only got those on one character.

I too 100% all zones. Sometimes the DB or TG will send a character to a zone I haven't been to for faction quests yet, and I'll do everything but the quests. After years of deliberating on "who must go, because I'm at the cap, and need a new toon", I've learned to minimize the "harm" I can do to my stable by keeping the harder to do things, like maxed crafting limited to a toon count below the max. That way, if I find that I'm not liking a class, I can use it as a mule, or prep it for deletion if another shiny I have to have comes up. Reading this, I put way too much thought into it... /cry

Blacknight841 · May 2020

Why would there be any character slots? There is no new class, no new skill, no new repayable content ... there is nothing in this patch that warrants a new character slot. We can't even play the broken content on one character let alone wanting to play it on more characters.

karthrag_inak · May 2020

Blacknight841 wrote: »

Why would there be any character slots? There is no new class, no new skill, no new repayable content ... there is nothing in this patch that warrants a new character slot. We can't even play the broken content on one character let alone wanting to play it on more characters.

Well, there is new tutorial, yes? -shrug-.

Perhaps this one is foolish (no perhaps about it, yes? Of course he is

) but he plays as if his various characters are members of his extended family that he is being reunited with as more of Tamriel is exposed (all but 1 are khajiit, and that one argonian is khajiit in his mind anyway, yes? Khajiit with skin condition.). This one only had a single character until Morrowind was released, when he made his first 6 alts. Then, with Summerset, he made 5 more alts, and the last 6 with Elsweyr.

This one has found that starting in different regions gives each character a different feel and helps to make their "story" unique, which in turn gives this one a fuller and more satisfying "ESO Experience". Even the alts' mounts and pets (all senche of course, except for argonian, who only rides and plays with lizards with senche aspirations) are all drawn from what was made available specifically when the alt was "born". (This one even made an alt specifically for a mount/pet pair he got through serendipity

, but this is other story, yes?).

This one is saddened that his family will not recover any lost, distant relations from Western Skyrim.

It will definitely make this chapter less exciting and endearing to him, as time passes.

Shaie · May 2020

I was surprised by that as well BUT I did notice that I can now purchase 6 more slots with Crowns. I'm certain that it was 3 prior to the launch of Greymoor.

We got 1 slot with Elsweyr, along with a new class. I created a Warden when Vvardenfell released, but I do not remember if I got a character slot at that time to do so. I also don't remember getting a character slot with Summerset BUT if we did, maybe that was because we didn't get one with Morrowind?

I'd already planned to delete & reroll an old character anyway but I can see how someone already maxed would be frustrated. I like to roll a new character at the start of a new chapter & do the tutorial just because for me it helps start the story. Maybe put in a ticket & see if they can help you somehow?

karthrag_inak · May 2020

It has been 6 for some time. The max has not changed, it is still 18

Nestor · May 2020

If they would give a me a few thousand storage slots, even off line storage, I could get by with 8 or 10 Character slots.

Well, maybe 12....come to think of it, 16 or 18 is a good number. Although I could see the need for 24.

But, I still want the extra storage!!!!

Dark_Lord_Kuro · May 2020

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

6 classes.. Stam, Magicka, Hybrid.. How can you need more than 18 characters..

6 class
1 mad dps
1 stam dps
1 tank
1healer

6x4=24

SeaGtGruff · May 2020

If you have the base game, all DLC zones, and the newest chapter, then you need 7 character slots if you want to get all of the "free" player housing-- that is, the rooms at the inns-- for free:

Room in Vulkhel Guard, Auridon (base game, Aldmeri Dominion)
Room in Daggerfall, Glenumbra (base game, Daggerfall Covenant)
Room in Ebonheart, Stonefalls (base game, Ebonheart Pact)
Room in Vivec City, Vvardenfell (Morrowind chapter DLC)
Room in Alinor, Summerset (Summerset chapter DLC)
Room in Rimmen, Northern Elsweyr (Elsweyr chapter DLC)
Room in Solitude, Western Skyrim (Greymoor chapter)

Of course, you can always buy them for 3000 gold each-- which is what I did on PC NA prior to Summerset because I didn't know any better at the time-- but I think it's nice to be able to get them for free, and I like to use that as an excuse to create a character of a particular race (native to that zone) and a class or role I might not have played yet.

Note to new players, if you want to create new characters for the purpose of getting the "free" rooms for free, be sure to go straight to the inn where the free room is (after playing through the tutorial if desired) before you visit any other housing that you already own, otherwise you might not be able to get the "free" room for free.

So if you've already used up all 18 slots, I can understand wanting another new one for the purpose of getting the new inn room without having to buy it outright-- although if you've got 18 characters, surely you can afford to pay 3000 gold for the new inn room.

Iccotak · May 2020

guys if it's about storage then ESO+ is not at all expensive

$15 a month is the equivalent of buying a lunch

xhaven · June 2020

Iccotak wrote: »

guys if it's about storage then ESO+ is not at all expensive

$15 a month is the equivalent of buying a lunch

Its not about the storage, anyone who can max character slots has to buy them and like you said they end up costing much more than eso+

CleymenZero · June 2020

xhaven wrote: »

Why!!!
Im already at 18/18 waiting for the chapter to drop so I can start a new character.
Is it to force us to try and buy the game twice?
Of the current mmos, why is ESO so bad at having character slots!

They only add character slots when they release new classes.

It was 12 first then warden came out so max was 15 then necro came out and were at 18.

Tandor · June 2020

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

I have slots for 9 characters, because I've never purchased any additional slots.

Of those slots, I'd used only 7 of them on the PC NA server, and only 6 of them on the PC EU server.

After creating a new character on both servers-- purely for the sake of being able to get the Snowmelt Suite for free-- I've still got 1 free slot on PC NA, and 2 free slots on PC EU.

I can't imagine needing more than 9 slots, because as it is I play on only 1 of my PC EU characters-- and although I do play on all 7 of my pre-Greymoor PC NA characters, it's only to do daily crafting writs on them.

It blows my mind that (apparently) so many players have 18 characters per server per account, and that some of them play on multiple accounts and on multiple servers per account.

As someone who plays around 40 characters as equal individuals playing through the game over time as there's no urgency to get them all to level 50, it blows my mind that people have characters that they only do daily crafting writs on. That sounds more like a daily chore than an entertaining hobby

! Still, we're all different.

sentientomega · June 2020

Tandor wrote: »

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

I have slots for 9 characters, because I've never purchased any additional slots.

Of those slots, I'd used only 7 of them on the PC NA server, and only 6 of them on the PC EU server.

After creating a new character on both servers-- purely for the sake of being able to get the Snowmelt Suite for free-- I've still got 1 free slot on PC NA, and 2 free slots on PC EU.

I can't imagine needing more than 9 slots, because as it is I play on only 1 of my PC EU characters-- and although I do play on all 7 of my pre-Greymoor PC NA characters, it's only to do daily crafting writs on them.

It blows my mind that (apparently) so many players have 18 characters per server per account, and that some of them play on multiple accounts and on multiple servers per account.

As someone who plays around 40 characters as equal individuals playing through the game over time as there's no urgency to get them all to level 50, it blows my mind that people have characters that they only do daily crafting writs on. That sounds more like a daily chore than an entertaining hobby ! Still, we're all different.

Yeah, it definitely feels like a chore to do all those writs. I'd like more characters for the sake of bringing to live those characters I made on the PTS, a few of which used to be live in the beginning.

I've not heard even *one* good reason why some people are so against others having more character slots...

WeerW3ir · June 2020

Why you even need that much? i highly dount you play with all.

WeerW3ir · June 2020

WeerW3ir wrote: »

Why you even need that much? i highly doubt you play with all.

Bekkael · June 2020

Yikes. That's a whole lot of characters. I have seven: one of each class (all female), and a token male Templar Altmer so I could make King Thranduil for funsies.

If I could, I would donate my extra slots to be adopted by the more alt hungry players. Too bad that's not an option.